Is the Revolver too good?

[Tantalus]

Is the revolver too good? Or is it overated?

 

[Cons Himself]

it is probably over powered for the time being, yes.

all good DM games have 'one hit kill' weapons, eg Quake 2's railgun, HLDM's fully charged tau cannon etc

however what makes the magnum overpowered is that it has an extremely fast rate of fire with no recoil as far as i can tell.

 

[Naudian]

Maybe it shouldn't be so easy to get...like not lying right in the middle of a room. But its not really too powerful.
If VALVe would just make it so that shooting someone's foot wouldnt kill them then it would be okay, but since you are able to kill people with one shot in places like that with the revolver, yea its a little too powerful.

 

[Hazar]

the one shot kills piss me off.

They should only be if you headshot them.

80 damage max in the torso.

 

[Cons Himself]

scuze me guys but all DM games need a one shot kill wep. all valve need to do is tone down the rate of fire quite a bit, and increase the recoil. if you find yourself dyring too often from the magnum try charging your suit a bit.

 

[joule]

It's perfect for my necessities. One shot kills (90% of the time). Clint Eastwood style.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

scuze me guys but all DM games need a one shot kill wep.

True, but in this case, the one-shot weapon should be the crossbow. The crossbow is pretty balanced compared to the other weapons, but the magnum is far better than it in every way except the scope.

 

[Cons Himself]

well yes 2 railgun types is a bit overkill.

the problem here is one is overpowered : magnum

and

one is so slow as to make it practically useless over long range: crossbow

what should valve do? i dunno.

 

[bam23]

All DM games have one shot kill weapons.

HL2 has three!

 

[Tantalus]

well yes 2 railgun types is a bit overkill.

the problem here is one is overpowered : magnum

and

one is so slow as to make it practically useless over long range: crossbow

what should valve do? i dunno.

i think valve should tune down the power of the revolver, and make the crossbow faster.

 

[Tantalus]

All DM games have one shot kill weapons.

HL2 has three!

Revolver, Crossbow, and?

 

[Cons Himself]

bam23 - i assume by 3 you mean the RL, crossbow and magnum?

tbh the RL holds so little ammo and you attract so much fire for using it, that its not really unbalanced.

 

[JamesPicard_007]

Actually HL2 has many one hit kill weapons by technicality. It's rather difficult, but I found that if you shoot an object straight up in the air and it strikes someone in the head it'll kill them instantly.

Even a keyboard, but it has to be done just right.

 

[Tantalus]

bam23 - i assume by 3 you mean the RL, crossbow and magnum?

tbh the RL holds so little ammo and you attract so much fire for using it, that its not really unbalanced.

maybe he means secondary pulse rifle-- i love that baby

 

[Cons Himself]

true but thats not unbalanced either - useless outside for eg

 

[Tantalus]

true but thats not unbalanced either - useless outside for eg

its almost too good, but then theres the fact that you can use the manipulator too shoot it back.

 

[Cons Himself]

the more i think about it:

shotgun secondary fire needs beefing up
need to carry more grenades for machine gun
tone down the magnum and speed up the crossbow
secondary fire for pistol a la HL1
cook off hand grenades
laser trip mines
tau cannon

 

[Tantalus]

the more i think about it:

shotgun secondary fire needs beefing up
need to carry more grenades for machine gun
tone down the magnum and speed up the crossbow
secondary fire for pistol a la HL1
cook off hand grenades
laser trip mines
tau cannon

yes, the secondary fire does need beefing up...
that gives me an idea!

 

[MÆST]

357 headshot should be insta-kill ... body should do a lot of damage but not quite 100.

need to be able to cook nades

shotgun could use a tad more power

that's about it

 

[Tantalus]

357 headshot should be insta-kill ... body should do a lot of damage but not quite 100.

couldnt agree more, headshot should certainly be fatal. body shots, maybe 60-75

 

[Cons Himself]

its fun though till they fix it, hl2dm is kinda like an instagib game

 

[Tantalus]

its fun though till they fix it, hl2dm is kinda like an instagib game

yes, the game is still fun... but there are certain strategies that are very difficult to stop.

 

[Edge]

hrm it takes two clips from the SMG but one poorly aimed shot from the Revolver. I think they need a special version for DM because it is totally unbalanced at this point. The RPG reloads far too quickly as well.

 

[Tantalus]

hrm it takes two clips from the SMG but one poorly aimed shot from the Revolver. I think they need a special version for DM because it is totally unbalanced at this point. The RPG reloads far too quickly as well.

This is how I would balance it out:

Pistol: Added Damage
SMG: Added Damage, higher maxammo count for grenades
Revolver: Less Damage, More Recoil
Pulse Cannon: A little extra damage.
Crossbow: Faster Bullets
Shotgun: Much, much more powerful secondary.

 

[Edge]

This is how I would balance it out:

Pistol: Added Damage
SMG: Added Damage, higher maxammo count for grenades
Revolver: Less Damage, More Recoil
Pulse Cannon: A little extra damage.
Crossbow: Faster Bullets
Shotgun: Much, much more powerful secondary.

yeah the SG secondary is double barrel blasts right? That should be a one shot kill up close. I have done it point blank and it isnt... but i have shot someone across the map with the revolver one shot and while spamming not really aiming and got a kill

 

[Tantalus]

yeah the SG secondary is double barrel blasts right? That should be a one shot kill up close. I have done it point blank and it isnt... but i have shot someone across the map with the revolver one shot and while spamming not really aiming and got a kill

Yeah, I've shot two alternate fire SGs, and they pulled out the revolver and hit my foot. I died.

 

[Asuka]

No, the Revolver isn't too good.

People need to stop complaining. Its a rare gun to find and almost all games need a gun just like that. Only 1 in overwatch and 2 in lockdown.

 

[Cons Himself]

and that is rare....how? the rpg is actually harder to get but not as good

 

[SimonomiS]

Just swapping the RPG and Revolver spawns would help quite a bit. In Overwatch its pretty much in the open. I really like the RPG spawns, gives them a rare feel, except it isnt actually THAT good compared to the Revolver.

 

[cenmocay]

mahnum is balancing bullshit

 

[ComradeBadger]

No, the Revolver isn't too good.

People need to stop complaining. Its a rare gun to find and almost all games need a gun just like that. Only 1 in overwatch and 2 in lockdown.

Indeed. Oh, and I'll think you'll find the shotgun is brillient up close: 1-hit kill.

 

[thefiznut]

I think it's fine. The revolver kills fast, but I find it's rather easy to fend off people coming at me with it by grabbing an object with the grav gun and using it as a shield until I get into their face. Crossbow is just fine too. In fact, I find it easier to kill people with it, despite having to lead. Plus, the crossbow kills are far more satisfying.

 

[Sui]

i dont think the problem is with power OR accuracy, i think it is in the ammount of ammo you get. i mean, 6 + 6 ammo is a LOT of kills. i have great aim (if i do say so myself) and 12 ammo practically garantees me 5 kills before i die, or even 10 if i'm feeling energetic.

personally i think there should be NO magnum ammo, and seeing as you cant take the ammo out of guns, this means when you pick up a magnum you will not get ANY more ammo until you die and respawn. this would certainly limit my killing sprees, eh?

but anything other than this, ESPECIALLY nerfing it, would be annoying. the gun is fine as it is, and like many people have said, if someone has one pointed at you, sprint at him while holding a filing cabinet! what would he do in THAT situation?

 

[SubKamran]

A .357 is as powerful as the gun in the game. Get used to it.

 

[Eejit]

A .357 is as powerful as the gun in the game. Get used to it.

Are you saying being shot in the foot with a .357 in rl kills you too?

 

[SimonomiS]

A .357 is as powerful as the gun in the game. Get used to it.

And they really have Gravity Guns and Combine in the real world!

Edit: Extreme bloodloss from your foot perhaps?

 

[Cons Himself]

whats all this "omg i woz shot in da foot and i died" nonsense. how the hell do you know where your opponent shoots you unless youre playing in third person.

its just noobs ways of making themselves feel better by blaming the game.

 

[PvtRyan]

Way too powerful. It's basically a better sniper rifle than the crossbow, which is retarded.

It should do:

40-70 damage on body
1 shot kill in head.

 

[Jimmeh]

I think they should keep it as it is, just put one per map in a hard to find place, because on overwatch I can think of at least 3 places to find it which is a bit stupid

 

[Bakurei]

Well you can cook granades (I do it all the time). Throw the granade to the ground switch to Grav Gun pick up and throw (works every time ).