Israel, the racist state.

You wanna talk about irony? You tell me why, only sixty years after WW2, a huge number of European people are trying to get racist neo-fascist parties into their governament. My grandparents are barely burried.

See for yourself how Europe is slowly getting itself back into the dark ages through nationalistic pride and xenophobia:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/europe/2000/far_right/

I live here and I can confirm this trend with what I read in papers or see on tv. Some people will proudly admit they vote for far-right 'apartheid'.

The world is going stupid, seriously.

edit: so to summ up: you'd think Europeans would have learned their lesson by now...I guess not.
 
true dat,but people will tell you they vote for those parties cuz they promise,what Hitler did,work and wealth,Its up to the EU politcicians to give that to people minus, uber patriotic behavior BS.
but,dont confuse things here,Isreal is the only "Democarcy" that sponsors racism officaly,a state by jews for jews.It would be great if the whole Palastina conflict could be solved,by giving them a own country,If Israel had a less racist goverment,they would be a great part of the EU.
 
Yep, Israel is racist. Thats a fact.


I think they're trying stay closer because they're afraid that another super-anti-jew world power will come alive.
 
Element Alpha said:
You wanna talk about irony? You tell me why, only sixty years after WW2, a huge number of European people are trying to get racist neo-fascist parties into their governament. My grandparents are barely burried.

See for yourself how Europe is slowly getting itself back into the dark ages through nationalistic pride and xenophobia:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/europe/2000/far_right/

I live here and I can confirm this trend with what I read in papers or see on tv. Some people will proudly admit they vote for far-right 'apartheid'.

The world is going stupid, seriously.

edit: so to summ up: you'd think Europeans would have learned their lesson by now...I guess not.
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Most of those parties are a far cry from what hitler was and his ideas, most of them are against the to liberal laws on immigration. Those parties get that support cause people do not want to loose political freedom, like the the right to freespeach and be driven to a stone age era in the name of political correctness.

You can take an example like Pim Fortuyn:

Anti-immigration party the Pim Fortuyn List is expected to achieve at least 16% of the vote in the May 2002 general election.

Its maverick leader Pim Fortuyn was assassinated in early May.

Fortuyn did not fit the traditional stereotype of other European far-right politicians - he was openly gay and espoused many liberal policies.

Strongly anti-Islamic, Mr Fortuyn wanted to cut immigration levels. He appeared to have some appeal among the young: nearly 50% of a poll of 18 to 30-year-olds in one Dutch newspaper said they wanted to see a complete end to Muslim immigration.

Mr Fortuyn picked up about 30% of the votes after standing as a candidate in Rotterdam's municipal elections. Polls before and after his assassination suggest that the Pim Fortuyn List could win enough seats to become a significant political force.
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That is not a hitler by any means, and his party was most popular in Rotterdam where 60% of the inhabitants are foreigners, my parents even voted for his party, and we are foreigners too, although I voted for the sp( socialist party myself), I can still understand why people wanted fortuyn.

Not only that Fortuyn was for increas in aid to foreign country's
 
other way round, id say. A person is clever, people are stupid
 
Every country out there has racism problems. All you have to do is open your eyes.
 
Yeah, you'll always get some kind of biggoted idiots in any country.

It doesn't mean society's necessarily going to pay their views any heed.
 
Raziaar said:
Every country out there has racism problems. All you have to do is open your eyes.
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my dear cow friend,the differnce is that this comes directly rom the top,its like the the US before the 60s,arabs are second class citizens in Isreal just like blacks where for a very long time here in the US or Jews in europe.
 
Spicy Tuna said:
my dear cow friend,the differnce is that this comes directly rom the top,its like the the US before the 60s,arabs are second class citizens in Isreal just like blacks where for a very long time here in the US or Jews in europe.
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Yes... and that is STILL going on in other countries. Institutional racism. It doesn't have to be racism against wildly diverse peoples... it can even be examples of minor differences, such as in Mexico where you have the Spanish class mexicans prejudicing against the more native mayan mexicans... But people rarely focus on this stuff... because it's out of the limelight.
 
Im sorry to say this, but the reason why Israel treats Arabs as second class citizens, particularly Palestinians, is simply because Arabs have had the tendency to want to blow up Israel. While racist thinking is common in most nations, it is never warranted. But you too would feel the same if you had a repeated history of events to back up such stereotypes. Example

Blacks in America didnt blow something up every other day, and as a whole, didnt become a threat to national secuirty.
 
He does have a point though. Suicide bombers (or other types of murders) are a very valid cause to turn a country into a police state.

On the other hand, you can't deny the notion of "why can't we all just get along".

I guess it has something to do with focusing on the differences instead of common grounds and points of agreements. An "us" and "them" mentality.

We're all from different places and all have different backgrounds here. But we all enjoyed half-life, and that brings us together. I believe small things like that matter a lot when aiming for mutual respect. It's not because we disagree or even have different life filosofies that we can't enjoy a nice cup of coffee together and laugh at each others' jokes.
 
Im not stereotyping Arabs, Im making a statement: Israel treats Palestinians becuase they are the main source of suicide bombers and internal threats against the state. That is the reality that we live in, and in another dimension it could be "Koreans" who are going out on a regular basis and blowing themselves up.

Also, please show me the numeric evidence that wouldnt show a trend onf Palestinian bombers?
 
To the thread author: Oh right, and just because Colorado has a couple of racists in it, does that mean we have to believe that Colorado is a racist state?
 
Colorado has no laws preventing whomever they don't like to live there. You've skipped the entire thread.

As for the thread: not all Arabs are suicide bombers and even if they are the main source of suicide bombing shouldn't give Isreal the right to assume they're all bloodthirsty killers. Some of them probably even want to get away from their hateful leaders.
 
True, but loosening immagration laws and allowing a laxed border policy does not help with state security. While not all arabs are bomber happy, you just need one in a bus to go boom.
 
Colorado has no laws preventing whomever they don't like to live there. You've skipped the entire thread.
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f-stick, read the thread title. He's broadly generalizing that Israel is a racist state without proving it.

suicide bombing shouldn't give Isreal the right to assume they're all bloodthirsty killers.
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If your out to kill someone, you are bloodthirsty. Watch the Shadid videos. I have this video of a dog being beheaded in a Palestinian market by "Fatah Shadid" to, "show strength against Israel?" Bloodthirsty? Yes. You know, I could post that. Or ... if the moderators allow me ... shall I start spamming Ogrish threads?
 
I prved by posting a THAT artcicle,also arabs are excluded from driving out certain highways...excluded from landownership...those laws come from the state,the goverment represents the state,there Israel the racist state,by jes for jews.
 
One of many? Post all you know.

I just will not believe broad generalizations. It's still wrong to say all of Israel is racist. Just like America Imperialist. Etc.
 
I will not spend hours on google,like stern does for hours and hours,and look for documets,just go to libertyforums.org.or google it yourself.
 
I just will not believe broad generalizations. It's still wrong to say all of Israel is racist. Just like America Imperialist. Etc.
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The thread title is "Israel the racist state" , the arguement being(or so I understand) that Israel enshrines in law racist practises.
Rather than saying "everyone in Israel is racist", which would be stupid and, (quite ironically) racist.
 
If he read the posts between me and "the cow" he would know that.
 
K e r b e r o s said:
One of many? Post all you know.

I just will not believe broad generalizations. It's still wrong to say all of Israel is racist. Just like America Imperialist. Etc.
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AMERICA IS IMPERIALIST.

Jesus. Spicy Tuna, your winning, just find some sources.
 
Solaris said:
AMERICA IS IMPERIALIST.

Jesus. Spicy Tuna, your winning, just find some sources.
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Thus the reason why America is a world power.
 
Solaris said:
Nazi germany was a world power.
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I'm not sure what you are getting at, but since were doing some history lessons, The UK was an Imperialist Wold Power as well. Is the UK or the US today anything like Nazi Germany was?

Israel isn't anything like Nazi Germany either. Israel isn't the US, where anyone from anywhere can be a full citizen, but there is a big difference between this and genocide.

The US is one of the countries where anyone from anywhere can be a citizen (AFAIK), but that doesn't mean every country should be the same way.
 
I was juts pointing out to numbers that being a world power doesn't make a country great.
 
K e r b e r o s said:
If your out to kill someone, you are bloodthirsty. Watch the Shadid videos. I have this video of a dog being beheaded in a Palestinian market by "Fatah Shadid" to, "show strength against Israel?" Bloodthirsty? Yes. You know, I could post that. Or ... if the moderators allow me ... shall I start spamming Ogrish threads?
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Way to misunderstand me. I meant even though most suicide bombers are Arabic not all Arabs are suicide bombers.

So what I was getting at is that though most suicide bombers are Arabic Isreal shouldn't disallow Arabs to travel to Isreal.
 
f-stick said:
Way to misunderstand me. I meant even though most suicide bombers are Arabic not all Arabs are suicide bombers.

So what I was getting at is that though most suicide bombers are Arabic Isreal shouldn't disallow Arabs to travel to Isreal.
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Most arabs hate Israel, so it is not so wrong to assume that any arab who wants to go to Israel has ulterior motives.
 
Grey Fox said:
Most arabs hate Israel, so it is not so wrong to assume that any arab who wants to go to Israel has ulterior motives.
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I hate Isreal. I'm not however going to blow it up.
 
Grey Fox said:
Most arabs hate Israel, so it is not so wrong to assume that any arab who wants to go to Israel has ulterior motives.
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And some of them are actually educated and just want to get out of their nations before they get themselves invaded. It's wrong to assume that any Arab who wants to enter Isreal has ulterior motives because that is prejudice.
 
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