its so sad that so many ignore the truth.(911)

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Neo101 said:
no i believe extremists did try to bring it down in 93... good way for the government to use as a smokescreen for the second attack
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<shakes his head in disbelief> You are unbelievable.
 
the "one floor falling to the next" is highly flawed. with the fact that the building could not have fallen at that speed under 10 seconds.this is impossible. The energy produced to do this would be far greater than just happening by itself. plus the fact that the ejection of debris vertically, some reachin New Jersey! could not have been ejected this way without a large amount of extra energy from something other than the sole collapse. To be honest man, the lines you put up sound strikingly farmiliar to the 9/11 commission report which is renowned for being hugely flawed. especially when looking at your sources. And when the best explanation the commission can give for the collapse of building 7 is "we dont know" you know there's something wrong.
 
A. Renowned by who?

B. No it's not impossible. As I understand it, as soon as one floor collapsed all the others would do too. It makes perfect sense. It only takes one level to go out. Then everything from that point upwards comes crashing down straight on top of everything else. Ain't nothing going to survive that kind of weight.
 
im not saying that.im saying it would take a lot longer than ten seconds for the building to fully collapse without explosives. Its freefall speed. Just look it up!
 
renowned by those in the PRESS. given the fact that only a couple of hudread thousand was spent on the investigation and given a limited amount of time to come to a comclusion, and 6 million was spent on the investigation into Clintons affair
 
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NO ONE CAN BE TOLD ABOUT THE MATRIX - YOU MUST SEE IT FOR YOURSELF
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That was such bollocks. You could totally explain it, really easily. Morpheus lied, and lies make baby Jesus cry. Just like Bearshare and that girl with the crutches.
 
Neo101 said:
no i believe extremists did try to bring it down in 93... good way for the government to use as a smokescreen for the second attack
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And this blokes video confession is all part and parcel of this Government and media conspiracy?

Sorry, I'm just not going to bother....
 
uh huh. when you investigate one of the biggest crimes in history maybe you'll understand the lengths ppl will go.
 
**** it. im done with this topic. believe whatever you want to believe. go back to sleep. and remember "you are free".
"we are free to do as they tell us".
"The news wouldnt lie. They're on our side"
 
The WTC buildings collapsed at free the fall speed of gravity, 8.4 seconds (10 floors per second). To collapse at "Free fall" speed means that the falling building pieces had to crush concrete, shear steel bolts, and brake welds and fall just as fast as a rock dropped off the side of the building that hit nothing but air. Impossible without explosives. Each floor hit would have significantly slowed the fall!

The South Tower (Building #2) fell after 1 hour; the North Tower (Building #1) fell after 2 hours.The Meridian Plaza burned fiercely for 19 hours and never collapsed. The Madrid fire in 2005 burnt for 24 hours looking like a torch and never collapsed.

Yet Scientific American, October 2001 said "The WTC was probably one of the more resistant tall buildings..they just don't build them as tough as the World Trade Center"s

"A steel building survived fires in experiments with extreme temperatures beyond the range possible with jet fuel."- Cardington fire tests

"The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time."- Federal Emergency Management Administration. Chapter 5, Page 31, May 2002

The investigation of the WTC "is a half-baked farce." - Fire Engineering Magazine. Jan 2002
 
The gusting wind on the towers had at times been greater than the impact of the airliners. Neither tower was bent nor did they creak or groan at any time.

The concrete was encased in a steel framed pan yet clouds of finely pulverized concrete and steel beams came shooting out of the buildings for up to three times the width of the building at hundreds of miles per hour - only possible with explosives.
 
The concrete was encased in a steel framed pan yet clouds of finely pulverized concrete and steel beams came shooting out of the buildings for up to three times the width of the building at hundreds of miles per hour - only possible with explosives.

If the force of the falling building is strong enough to pulverize concrete then the bolts and rivets would have to hold beyond that force - and then give way. Yet the force to pulverize concrete into fine powder is greater than the force that sheers or stretches steel bolts and rivets. It cannot be both ways.

Both impacts and fires in the Twin Towers did not hit the center of the buildings. That means that only two sides of the building were harmed at most and two sides were structurally sound. Building 7 had no impact or significant fires. Yet all three collapses are perfectly straight down. Only the tops of the Towers should have fallen over, not the entire building all straight down, just like a controlled demolition
 
Each floor hit would have significantly slowed the fall!
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Each floor lost would have added more weight and thus more velocity.

Sorry, I'm just being objective. You're asking us to question things after all.

EDIT: There is such a thing as an edit button for ****'s sake.
 
That website... LOL. such a conspiracy site. How can you think otherwise? I mean... whats this?

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Those explosions weren't mysterious. I want my money back.
 
Big plane flys into building.
Building falls down.

It sounds just a little too believable for my liking.
 
The explosions blew the fire proofing off the beams and allowed them to soften.
 
What the hell is the matter with you people? America lies so much that it's more plausable to believe a conspiracy theory about america than it is not to believe one.

9/11 was clearly known about before it happened, if you don't know this you are a ignorant numbskull. I wouldnt be suprised if the american dominant class staged the whole thing either. They've done it before, they'll do it again. The cia, which is run by wall street lawyers, could have just as well worked in collobaration with terrorists to cause 9/11, just look at what happened to stock sales before and after the 9/11 attacks.
 
Some of you people should lay off of whatever shit you've been chugging underneath the sink.
 
All these people talking about the 'explosions' seen and heard at the base of the WTC... I was watching history channel the other day, and they had footage from ametuer photographers and film people(same thing?), and they described their events. The footage was near the base of the collapse of the first tower... The cameraman was talking about how everybody was gaping up at the building, standing not two hundred feet away from it(if I remember correctly), and when it started to collapse down, it seemed like it was coming down so slowly, and everybody started to run and thats when the panic ensued. I didn't hear any explosions or see anything that startled in their immediate vicinity the people until after the collapse was happening.

So why is none of this stuff in the camera footage that was shot at the base of the WTC before it collapsed and during its collapse?



It was on history channel just a couple days ago... called World Trade Center: The Rise and Fall of an American Icon.
 
>>FrEnZy<< said:
What the hell is the matter with you people? America lies so much that it's more plausable to believe a conspiracy theory about america than it is not to believe one.

9/11 was clearly known about before it happened, if you don't know this you are a ignorant numbskull. I wouldnt be suprised if the american dominant class staged the whole thing either. They've done it before, they'll do it again. The cia, which is run by wall street lawyers, could have just as well worked in collobaration with terrorists to cause 9/11, just look at what happened to stock sales before and after the 9/11 attacks.
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Clearly known before it happened? I suppose so, however if that were the case then I would attribute the failure to protect the country more to it being simply incompetence rather than something deliberate, I mean everyone comments on how incompetent the Bush admistration is along with the intelligence community on everything else so why couldn't the same problem have occured here?

Lying doesn't create a conspiracy theory, after all we have completely independant groups and individuals backing up the government claims in this case. Personally I find it easier to believe that this was simply a major disaster that resulted from failures on multiple levels rather than some massive cover up by the US government to murder its own citizens in an effort to have a chance at creating the effect of a second pearl harbor. Disasters happen you know, not everything has been designed by some government conspiracy.

What happened to the stock market? Umm ya like all those thousands of independant people trading on the stock market are somehow in this massive conspiracy and not one of them has blurted out the truth yet. :upstare:

Another thing to consider. Just because a disaster happens that coincidentally furthers some groups goals (in this case the US governments) doesn't mean that it was intentionally done by that group. If that were the case then it would be possible to argue that EVERY event in history that is the result of humans was some kind of a conspiracy.
 
Hmm. I've noticed something perculiar at lunchtime. They are sending the wrong food periodically... Sending rice pudding instead of Semolina once could be a mistake. But twice in one week? Let's look at the best before date on this rice pudding tin, it's 11-6-2006...turn it upside down, what do we have? 9-11!
The name on the tin? Ambrosia! O-M-F-G. Dateline London, 1982. Freemasons from the Vatican hang Roberto Calvi from Blackfriars Bridge - Calvi is the President of the Ambrosiana Bank! Coincidence? I think not!

If I draw a line on a map, between Blackfriars Bridge and the Grocer's shop in Luton, and extrapolate these two coordinates, it points straight to...guess where? CARLISLE!

You see? The Carlyle Corporation! The Texas based munitions company, funded by the bin Laden family, which along with Dick Cheney's Halliburton group, bankrolled George W. Bush's presidential election campaign!
Looking more closely at the Carlyle Corporation, the Halliburton Group, NASA and the Catholic church, things start to get much more interesting...

All of these organisation trade on, or own shares in the US Stock Exchange, based in NEW YORK CITY... bringing us back to 9-11!

I may make the following deductions from all the evidence:

1. The New World order is going to assassinate Kofi Annan to destabilise the Middle East. They want to allow the priory of Zion to fluoridise the Caspian Sea! They're being blackmailed by the Freemasons, who have evidence that the Bilderberg group were using George W. Bush's "Global Hawk" technology to fly the 4 planes on the day of 9-11.

2. Frank Bruno subsequently appeared barefoot on the sleeve of "Abbey Road", and was replaced by Jim Morrison, who faked his own death in Paris, like Princess Di (who is a shape-shifting reptilian), whose cattle-mutilating black helicopter was spotted using a Telsa Howitzer, to bring down the space shuttle Columbia over the state of Texas - which just happens to be the home state of Lee Harvey Oswald, George W. Bush and Monsanto - the Vatican backed plant gene manipulation conglomerate who have secretly embarked on a project - where else but the Caspian Sea!, to genetically modify....RICE!!!

3. You know how Semolina puddings usually come in Packs of Two?
Well, Tupac Shakur faked his own murder, just like JFK, Marilyn Monroe and the Lindbergh baby, and infiltrated the Grocer's shop in Luton to warn me that the CIA had me in the frame to be the fallguy in the Annan assassination.

Well, guess what? When Annan stops that bullet tomorrow, I'm going to be safely behind bars, somewhere where the military-industrial complex can't put their finger on me! They've picked the wrong patsy this time!
I'm going to name names and blow this whole sinister global conspiracy wide open. They're going to regret messing with m.....

*Kirovman gets shot on the grassy knoll.*
 
kirovman said:
Hmm. I've noticed something perculiar at lunchtime. They are sending the wrong food periodically... Sending rice pudding instead of Semolina once could be a mistake. But twice in one week? Let's look at the best before date on this rice pudding tin, it's 11-6-2006...turn it upside down, what do we have? 9-11!
The name on the tin? Ambrosia! O-M-F-G. Dateline London, 1982. Freemasons from the Vatican hang Roberto Calvi from Blackfriars Bridge - Calvi is the President of the Ambrosiana Bank! Coincidence? I think not!

If I draw a line on a map, between Blackfriars Bridge and the Grocer's shop in Luton, and extrapolate these two coordinates, it points straight to...guess where? CARLISLE!

You see? The Carlyle Corporation! The Texas based munitions company, funded by the bin Laden family, which along with Dick Cheney's Halliburton group, bankrolled George W. Bush's presidential election campaign!
Looking more closely at the Carlyle Corporation, the Halliburton Group, NASA and the Catholic church, things start to get much more interesting...

All of these organisation trade on, or own shares in the US Stock Exchange, based in NEW YORK CITY... bringing us back to 9-11!

I may make the following deductions from all the evidence:

1. The New World order is going to assassinate Kofi Annan to destabilise the Middle East. They want to allow the priory of Zion to fluoridise the Caspian Sea! They're being blackmailed by the Freemasons, who have evidence that the Bilderberg group were using George W. Bush's "Global Hawk" technology to fly the 4 planes on the day of 9-11.

2. Frank Bruno subsequently appeared barefoot on the sleeve of "Abbey Road", and was replaced by Jim Morrison, who faked his own death in Paris, like Princess Di (who is a shape-shifting reptilian), whose cattle-mutilating black helicopter was spotted using a Telsa Howitzer, to bring down the space shuttle Columbia over the state of Texas - which just happens to be the home state of Lee Harvey Oswald, George W. Bush and Monsanto - the Vatican backed plant gene manipulation conglomerate who have secretly embarked on a project - where else but the Caspian Sea!, to genetically modify....RICE!!!

3. You know how Semolina puddings usually come in Packs of Two?
Well, Tupac Shakur faked his own murder, just like JFK, Marilyn Monroe and the Lindbergh baby, and infiltrated the Grocer's shop in Luton to warn me that the CIA had me in the frame to be the fallguy in the Annan assassination.

Well, guess what? When Annan stops that bullet tomorrow, I'm going to be safely behind bars, somewhere where the military-industrial complex can't put their finger on me! They've picked the wrong patsy this time!
I'm going to name names and blow this whole sinister global conspiracy wide open. They're going to regret messing with m.....

*Kirovman gets shot on the grassy knoll.*
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:LOL: ..that was highly entertaining
 
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