J’accuse….!

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Mike Levine said:
J’ACCUSE….!

I, Mike Levine, citizen of Israel and the United States, accuse you, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, Denver Post, Atlanta Constitution, CNN, Times of London, and thousands of other newspapers and TV networks worldwide…I accuse you of gross bias against, and naked hatred towards the Jewish state
of Israel.

For years most of you have shown a clear bias in favor of the Arab Muslims and Palestinians, taking every opportunity to demonize Israel, the only Democracy in the Middle East, and the only Jewish state in the world.

But in the past two weeks you have raised your hatred to a new high, while your journalistic standards have fallen to new lows.

While coverage of the earthquake and tsunami in Asia has been extensive, and your reporting of international fund raising and rescue efforts has been massivie, you wrote hardly a word about the fact that Israel was one of the very first to offer substantial aid and send medical rescue missions to the stricken areas! Within hours planeloads of well trained rescue people and
experienced trauma doctors were on their way.

Israel is one of the tiniest nations on earth, with a total population far less than many cities of the world, yet in the first hours following the earthquake and flooding, Israel assembled hundreds of doctors and other medical personnel, many planeloads of medical supplies, tents, food, blankets, even baby diapers. While other, much larger, much richer nations,
were still rubbing their eyes in disbelief, Israel was already setting up many aid stations in the worst hit areas.

Nor did you report the unbelievably hateful refusal of Sri Lanka, and a couple other Muslim states, to accept the entry of Jewish medical and rescue personnel, although they did cynically accept the supplies and equipment sent by Israel.

I accuse world media of gross incompetance.
I accuse world media of abrogation of journalistic integrity.
I accuse world media of sheer and transparent prejudice against Israel and the Jews.
I accuse world media of pandering to the Islamic nations hatred of anything Jewish.

Only a few publications outside Israel mentioned the major contribution being made by Israel. Only a very few pointed out that Israel’s per capita contribution of manpower, equipment, supplies, and money WAS THE HIGHEST IN THE WORLD!

Only a few bothered to mention that only a tiny trickle of aid was offered by all of the world’s Muslim nations, nations sitting on half of the world’s oil reserves, nations raking in billions of dollars daily, nations whose elite live lives of such oppulence as can hardly be imagined by most of the world’s masses.

Saudi Arabia sat unmoved for a week while the world scrambled to raise funds and send massive aid, then magnanimously pledged a measly ten million dollars, a pledge which has yet to be paid! Imagine, this from a brother Muslim state, a state that provided families of Palestinian suicide bombers with $150,000,000 (one hundred fifty million dollars) during the past year alone!

Kuwait, the second richest Muslim nation, pledged an equally paltry ten million!

You people in Chicago…did you read any of this in your newspapers?
How about you good people in Dallas? Paris? Berlin? Melbourne? Did any of you read or hear of Israel’s incredible generousity of spirit, manpower, and money? Did you read one editorial praising the fact that the Jewish state unselfishly came to the immediate aid of Muslim nations that have long called for the destruction of Israel?

No, chances are you did not. Maybe you ought to let your editors know how you feel about their treatment of Israel and the Jewish people. Because if you don’t speak out, they will continue to believe no one gives a damn about Israel, and they will continue speaking of Israel only in negative terms, writing only about how the Jewish state mistreats the Palestinians and their terrorists.

Join me when I say to world media loud and clear …J’ACCUSE!
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[sarcasm]There is no left wing bias in the media. There is no media bias towards Israel and certainly not biased in the plight of the Palestainians.[/sarcasm]


I'm with ya 100%. Blatant hypocrisy.

One thing I will differ with you on though, an abrogation of journalistic integrity? That is absolutley preposterous, anyone with at least half a brain and any semblance of reason knows that journalistic integrity has not existed since sometime after WWII.
 
Hey, I didn't write that, this guy Mike Levine did... I just wanted to see what everyone thought
 
I certainly wasn't aware of it.

Media bias has always been around, its never very nice, but is always there. What I want to know is... WHY are people so anti-Jewish. I never figured it out... no... oh wait, "they killed Christ" :rolleyes:
 
I like Jews. I like doing business with them. I have several Jewish friends. They're good people. They've got their ways, I have mine. That doesnt affect our business.

Nor did you report the unbelievably hateful refusal of Sri Lanka, and a couple other Muslim states, to accept the entry of Jewish medical and rescue personnel, although they did cynically accept the supplies and equipment sent by Israel.
Shit like that is bogus. I've seen alot of photos of before and after. They need workers more than anything. They need people on the ground clearing out bodies and doing whatever needs to be done. But, yet, these staborn ****s dont accept Israel's help. ****ing bogus.

There is no left wing bias in the media.
lol, sure their isnt.
 
Media bias has always been around, its never very nice, but is always there. What I want to know is... WHY are people so anti-Jewish. I never figured it out... no... oh wait, "they killed Christ"

Kinda Ironic isn't it. A lot of people justify Israels existence becasue of the bible, yet the same reason was/is used to prosecute innocent jews.

No, but that letter has certainly some points to it. Do I'm absolutely not an Israel supporter, and certainly dissaprove of their actions against the Palestenians. I agree with a lot of points in the letter, some things do need to be put in perspective, and yes I certainly agree that a lot of hypocracy of the arabic nations needs to be put in the spotlight, I hope they take note of it.

lol, sure their isnt.
Maybe there is, but it's still way more objective than the rightwingmedia. You only have to look at rightwing and leftwing ideologie to find out that left is far more objective.
 
DreamThrall said:
$150,000,000 (one hundred fifty million dollars)

For those of you that are unsure what the commas and the funny s with the line through it means..

Edit: one hundred fifty million dollars = $500,000,000 heh. No constructive comments from me tonight then.
 
Its quite ironic that Israel contributed more money than most Muslim nations to this ordeal. It is disturbing actually. Muslim nations verbally, and financially, attack Israel daily, but then spend nothing to help their own people!? All this while Israel is spending money on people who hate them. This whole fiasco is outrageous and Israel should be globally commended for taking the moral high ground.
 
burner69 said:
I certainly wasn't aware of it.

Media bias has always been around, its never very nice, but is always there. What I want to know is... WHY are people so anti-Jewish. I never figured it out... no... oh wait, "they killed Christ" :rolleyes:

Contrary to what you may believe, most christians don't take that view. They are smart enough to know that Jesus himself was a jew, and the ethnicity didn't matter much.

I am personally amiable towards the jewish people, with an amicable relationship towards many I know personally.

You make it out to be that Christians hate the jews, yet we Americans, obviously a 'christian state' as you all accuse us to be under bush, are their biggest supporters? Hah!



Oh, and the writer of that letter is completely true. I haven't heard much of anything of Israel's contribution to the relief efforts, from any of the major news broadcasts I have the opportunity to listen to here in the states. Quite disgusting. I wasn't even aware their contribution was so swift and great, either, because of that.
 
What I want to know is... WHY are people so anti-Jewish. I never figured it out... no... oh wait, "they killed Christ"
I agree with Raziaar. This is a very naieve and uninformed response. I think the "Anti- Jewish" sentiment springs solely from the situation in Israel. In my opinion, most media personalities secretly dont like Israel, and want the Palestinians to win. I dont believe many 'normal' people hate Jews at all, just a media bias that is perputrated to form such an opinion. Of course this media 'bias' is purely my opinion gathered from watching lots of news.
 
burner69 said:
I certainly wasn't aware of it.

Media bias has always been around, its never very nice, but is always there. What I want to know is... WHY are people so anti-Jewish. I never figured it out... no... oh wait, "they killed Christ"
That was pretty rude of you to say that. Did you give any money btw?
 
Guys, seriously, you can really be dipshits sometimes - why do you think burner has that remark in quotation marks? I don't think it's his opinion....
 
pomegranate said:
Guys, seriously, you can really be dipshits sometimes - why do you think burner has that remark in quotation marks? I don't think it's his opinion....

Heh. I like his quote. Although something else should be added.

I preferred it when the presidents were smart, and the bombs were dumb, killing many more innocents.
 
pomegranate said:
Guys, seriously, you can really be dipshits sometimes - why do you think burner has that remark in quotation marks? I don't think it's his opinion....


Not it's not his opinion. From the context it gives the impression that he's accusing christians of hating Jews because they killed Christ.


As someone else said, that's an extremely naive statement, I don't hate jews. I've met a couple of jewish people and have been friends with all of them.


You make it out to be that Christians hate the jews, yet we Americans, obviously a 'christian state' as you all accuse us to be under bush, are their biggest supporters? Hah!

qfe.
 
Hehe, someone wanted a pat on the back concerning their generosity and didn't get it, crybabies.
 
PvtRyan said:
Hehe, someone wanted a pat on the back concerning their generosity and didn't get it, crybabies.

Everybody else got acknowledgement, Israel deserves it too.
 
PvtRyan said:
Hehe, someone wanted a pat on the back concerning their generosity and didn't get it, crybabies.

I don't hear Israel publicly complaining... this guy is a columnist, not a representative of the Israeli government. Good job being way off-base.
 
Holy shit.......

If a nation gives money to a country in a situation like this, you do so out of generosity and in the hopes that that money will ease the pain on others. You don't do it so that papers a million miles away glorify you for you're amazing compassionate deeds of good and greatness. And why does the man attack the arab states? Sure the leaders of most muslims countries are idiots. I won't deny it. Those people live in BILLION dollar mansions while their own people starve. I dislike most arab leaders more than the next guy. But to make it seem as if muslims in general are greedy and uncaring is disgusting. It borders on propaganda. If this man has so many issues with muslims and why the rest of the world seems to "hate" Jews (Jews own much of the western media, by the way), he shouldn't use this disaster as a back drop to voice his whiny concerns.

EDIT: I just read over it again.....I seriously can't believe this guy. He is more or less spitting on the disaster at hand, thinking it is more important to glorify Israel for it's generosity than to report on the situations occuring in the countries that have been affected. This man's ego needs a serious scrubbing.
 
Bait said:
Holy shit.......

If a nation gives money to a country in a situation like this, you do so out of generosity and in the hopes that that money will ease the pain on others. You don't do it so that papers a million miles away glorify you for you're amazing compassionate deeds of good and greatness. And why does the man attack the arab states? Sure the leaders of most muslims countries are idiots. I won't deny it. Those people live in BILLION dollar mansions while their own people starve. I dislike most arab leaders more than the next guy. But to make it seem as if muslims in general are greedy and uncaring is disgusting. It borders on propaganda. If this man has so many issues with muslims and why the rest of the world seems to "hate" Jews (Jews own much of the western media, by the way), he shouldn't use this disaster as a back drop to voice his whiny concerns.

EDIT: I just read over it again.....I seriously can't believe this guy. He is more or less spitting on the disaster at hand, thinking it is more important to glorify Israel for it's generosity than to report on the situations occuring in the countries that have been affected. This man's ego needs a serious scrubbing.

Heh. You do realize this guy isn't part of the israeli government, right? The israeli government was one of the most generous contributors, yet they are not making a big deal about it. Yes, this guy is, sure... but thats just the same as the other countries who are making big deals about how much they're contributing as well.

The Israeli government did do it out of the kindness of their heart, and were one of the first to respond to the crisis. It's not a contest, but if everybody else is getting recognition for what they contributed, even if its measly amounts compared to how rich their country is, Israel should be no exception. The fact of the matter is, all countries are getting pats on the back for what they have done, despite israel it seems... and that's stupid. Israel should get just as much recognition as any other country.

It's like you want to 'ignore' their contribution now, just because a journalist made a big deal about it. That's kind of mean spirited of you. It's a columnist writing this, not the government. Yet you still wish to 'ignore' what Israel did.
 
Raziaar said:
Heh. You do realize this guy isn't part of the israeli government, right? The israeli government was one of the most generous contributors, yet they are not making a big deal about it. Yes, this guy is, sure... but thats just the same as the other countries who are making big deals about how much they're contributing as well.

The Israeli government did do it out of the kindness of their heart, and were one of the first to respond to the crisis. It's not a contest, but if everybody else is getting recognition for what they contributed, even if its measly amounts compared to how rich their country is, Israel should be no exception. The fact of the matter is, all countries are getting pats on the back for what they have done, despite israel it seems... and that's stupid. Israel should get just as much recognition as any other country.

Ok, fine, let the man say he wants to see his country get recognition for their actions. Whether or not that happened shouldn't matter, but what the hell, let 'em have it.

And I will agree with him on one point, the muslim leaders should be giving more. They should be the ones giving more than anyone else in the world. Those people should be diping into their personal coffers to donate to the survivors of this tragedy. But they aren't. And it disgusts me.

But what disgusts me even more is how this person thinks he can voice his "outrage" at how the media hates the Jews, Israel and what-have-you while they glorify Palestine. If the man wants recongnition for his countries efforts, fine, so be it. But if he wants to use the death of over 150,000 people to voice his opinion on muslims, he can go straight to hell for all I care.

I admire his patriotism, but I hate his damned bigotry.

EDIT: Let me also say that I did like to hear that Israel did give to the cause. Do not for a moment think I am against such an action. And if people feel so strongly about this being in the news, so be it, I won't debate it.
 
Most of the arab wealth isnt actually tied up inside the goverment its with the people who own the oil fields, yes i know some arab leaders own oil fields yada yada.

This guy seems to want some kind of recognition while putting arab countrys down.
 
So because Isreal gave a lot of money and didn't get a lot of praise for it suddenly the world hates Jews?
 
Vulture said:
So because Isreal gave a lot of money and didn't get a lot of praise for it suddenly the world hates Jews?

Well, even if this wasn't created... the world currently, at least most of it... has a very distasteful view of Israel. I've noticed numerous people on these boards being pro palestine/anti israel, whereas the right thing would be to hope both sides could settle their differences, rather than kill each other better.
 
Raziaar said:
Well, even if this wasn't created... the world currently, at least most of it... has a very distasteful view of Israel.

Which is understandable, given what they have been accused of, the same goes for the palestinians. I was just stating that because someone dislikes isreal it doesent necessarily mean they dislike jews.

There will always be bais in the media, its sometimes clear to see and sometimes I'm sure it can be imagined, there are Palestinains dieing every day yet when an isreali apc is destroyed it hits the headlines. I think its the way the media operates, after all, will people care more about what Isreal has given or what there own country has given?

Anyway, I don't think that this was an act of anti-semitism, I think it was more an act of simply telling people about the countries they wanted to hear about (I didn't know Saudi Gave any money).
 
But if he wants to use the death of over 150,000 people to voice his opinion on muslims, he can go straight to hell for all I care.
He wants to voice his opinion on how the world press is ignoring the generosity of Israel, and focusing on the generosity of other nations in their stead. This is a clear cut example of how generous Israel is, regardless of the religion practiced by those who were forced to suffer. If the media keeps ignoring opportunities like this to shine a good light on such a disaster, when will they?

EDIT: Let me also say that I did like to hear that Israel did give to the cause.
Exactly, it took this thread to point out that Israel did donate. Without it, you probably never would have known. Neither would I, and that is a shame.
 
talking about racism..(sort of)

any 1 here hear the racist chants to Roberto Carlos in the Spanish soccer match between Real Madrid and Athletico Madrid 2 nights ago.

disgusting tbh !
 
Bait said:
Holy shit.......

If a nation gives money to a country in a situation like this, you do so out of generosity and in the hopes that that money will ease the pain on others. You don't do it so that papers a million miles away glorify you for you're amazing compassionate deeds of good and greatness. And why does the man attack the arab states? Sure the leaders of most muslims countries are idiots. I won't deny it. Those people live in BILLION dollar mansions while their own people starve. I dislike most arab leaders more than the next guy. But to make it seem as if muslims in general are greedy and uncaring is disgusting. It borders on propaganda. If this man has so many issues with muslims and why the rest of the world seems to "hate" Jews (Jews own much of the western media, by the way), he shouldn't use this disaster as a back drop to voice his whiny concerns.

EDIT: I just read over it again.....I seriously can't believe this guy. He is more or less spitting on the disaster at hand, thinking it is more important to glorify Israel for it's generosity than to report on the situations occuring in the countries that have been affected. This man's ego needs a serious scrubbing.


what a jaded biased view you seem to have.

Spitting on the disaster? seeking glory? bigotry?

I think it would be the leaders of the countries that are bigotted for refusing help from the Jews because they are Jews. Alos it would be those leaders spitting on the disaster for refusing aid and comfort to their people from the Jews because they are Jews.

Seeking glory...... hardly. I see it more as exposing the bias and double standards of the muslim world. Millions of muslims die at the hands of other muslims, their brutal dictatorial govts, tribal differences, abusive spouses etc.... than are killed by anything else and little is heard about it. Yet when the Israelis are fighting hamas, hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, etc............. and some innocent Palestinians are killed, the muslim world gets all butthurt and condemns the action with "unity". Give me a break. The muslim world is the biggest bunch of bigotted hate filled losers to have had power anywhere since the Nazis. And what do you know, they both had/have a tremendous foaming hate the Jews.

So hate filled are they that they are willing to let their people go without medical care in the time of such a horrendous crisis just because the medical personnel that would be providing that aid are Jewish. :rolleyes: Go ahead and fail to see that. That's part of the problem, please continue to participate in something other than the solution.
 
This almost makes up for the millions of dollars the US gave to Israel for their massive weapons programs.

IMO, you shouldn't ask for thanks when you do a good deed, let only attack our journalism.
 
Javert said:
This almost makes up for the millions of dollars the US gave to Israel for their massive weapons programs.

IMO, you shouldn't ask for thanks when you do a good deed, let only attack our journalism.

Did you bother reading any of the posts above?
 
A lot of people justify Israels existence becasue of the bible, yet the same reason was/is used to prosecute innocent jews.

Not like thats the only card in our Folder ...

Do I'm absolutely not an Israel supporter, and certainly dissaprove of their actions against the Palestenians.

"Do", I'm absolutely not a supporter of Palestine, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Suadi Arabia, Jordan, or Libya when it came down to them garnering support for or participating in the first invasion of Israel. [ 1946-1947. ]

Or the second, [1952-1954] ... or the third [1957-1958] ... or the fourth [1964-1967] ... or the fifth [1968-1970] ... or Egypts war of attrition [1972-1974] ... or Iraq launching missles into Tel-Aviv [1974-1991] ... Or Lebanon leading terrorist networks and Fayadeen to attack Israeli Civilians [1975-20??] ... or Hamas, Fayadeen, etc. taking up against Israeli Civilian Targets; dedicating their mission the same as the Arab Legion precedenting them by almost forty years [1975-20??] or PLO Leaders organizing attacks and brutal bombings of Civilian and Military targets [1968-20??] ... Oh! And the little crap inbetween [1945-20??]

I also disapprove of the actions taken up by more then nine arab countries, of all whose actions have been threatening, murderous, premtive, and without but one cause leading to the complete annihlation of Israel and all of its citizens [Genocide].

Maybe there is, but it's still way more objective than the rightwingmedia. You only have to look at rightwing and leftwing ideologie to find out that left is far more objective.

To any wing, there own sources seem more superior then they other. You have yours, I have mine. There, were decided.

Its quite ironic that Israel contributed more money than most Muslim nations to this ordeal. It is disturbing actually. Muslim nations verbally, and financially, attack Israel daily, but then spend nothing to help their own people!? All this while Israel is spending money on people who hate them. This whole fiasco is outrageous and Israel should be globally commended for taking the moral high ground.

Agreed.

I preferred it when the presidents were smart, and the bombs were dumb, killing many more innocents.

Oh, that was a Burn. Did he realize that point?

I don't hear Israel publicly complaining... this guy is a columnist, not a representative of the Israeli government. Good job being way off-base.

QFE for all of the other responses I seemingly cannot get to today.

EDIT: I just read over it again.....I seriously can't believe this guy. He is more or less spitting on the disaster at hand, thinking it is more important to glorify Israel for it's generosity than to report on the situations occuring in the countries that have been affected. This man's ego needs a serious scrubbing.

Actually, he's not spitting on the disaster at all. He's calling the media on their bias against Israel, starting with the disaster relief fund choicefully being ignored only to those who are European Power-houses.

I admire his patriotism, but I hate his damned bigotry.

It was'nt his bigotry -- but the bigotry of the media forcing him into a position of retalliation. You again, misjudged his context to forge the point that you disliked his opinion.

This guy seems to want some kind of recognition while putting arab countrys down.

Yet, how many people accuse and charge Israel of something awful? Lots.

This man cant hurt the turtle's back.

So because Isreal gave a lot of money and didn't get a lot of praise for it suddenly the world hates Jews?

Congradulations on either not reading his entire post [and just skimming through it, adding your brief analytical emotives first] or choicefully selecting a general point for which to barter his arguement insiginificance.

Incase you did'nt ntoice, thats hardly on what its about.

Which is understandable, given what they have been accused of, the same goes for the palestinians. I was just stating that because someone dislikes isreal it doesent necessarily mean they dislike jews.

Since it was prompted, I'd just like to say that while I dislike the Political Organizations throughout the Middle-East garnering support for terrorism, I do however admire the Muslims as people.

There will always be bais in the media, its sometimes clear to see and sometimes I'm sure it can be imagined, there are Palestinains dieing every day yet when an isreali apc is destroyed it hits the headlines.

Seeing as this is your retort to this mans complaint, I can harshly disagree that an Israeli APC being blown up makes the news over the significance of, "OMFG MY CHILD WAS JUST THROWING ROCKS AT ISRAELI DEVIL SOLDIERS AND STRUCK ONE IN THE FACE AND WAS SUDDENLY SHOT IN RETURN OMFG ISRAEL IS EVAL."
 
Javert said:
This almost makes up for the millions of dollars the US gave to Israel for their massive weapons programs. .

If the Arbas had not attacked the Jews there would have been no need for military assistance.

Javert said:
IMO, you shouldn't ask for thanks when you do a good deed, let only attack our journalism.

I fail to see how you can call exposing the rejection of aid from people because of their religion seeking thanks.

If it were reversed and we were refusing to help them because of their religion you panty waists would be so severely butthurt you wouldn't be able to think straight.

Only in the mind of a liberal can leaders of countries (muslims) be excused for causing their people discomfort and decline them medical assistance by denying aid from Israel, and then scold Israel for seeking thanks by their exposing the rationale behind those countries declining the aid.
 
Scoobnfl said:
If it were reversed and we were refusing to help them because of their religion you panty waists would be so severely butthurt you wouldn't be able to think straight.

Jesus, shut up.
 
Thank you kerberos.

On another note, to whomever made the reference, don't be so quick to lump liberals with palenstinian supporters. For the most part, I consider my self a liberal, but I think Israel is doing nothing wrong in defending their homeland. That is not meant to spawn another sub-thread about Israel and their practices, but just to prove my point that liberals aren't necessarily anti-Israel.

And on yet another note, it is I-S-R-A-E-L, not Isreal.
 
Scoobnfl said:
If it were reversed and we were refusing to help them because of their religion you panty waists would be so severely butthurt you wouldn't be able to think straight.
Cut out the insults.
 
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