JFK assassination: conspiracy?

[Maskirovka]

Saturday was the 40th anniversary of the JFK assassination.

the history channel ran a bunch of conspiracy-theory shows all week and a lot of the evidence shown (if true) is extremely convincing.

just wondering what you guys think

 

[mchammer75040]

Glad you brought this up, i was going to make a thread about it but o well. Well I believe it is a conspiracy, if you read between the lines there is plenty of motives for the government to have killed JFK. It seems that the government has alot of ghosts in its closet, anyone who messes with it is dealt with.

 

[dfc05]

i didn't see the ones on the history channel but i saw a different show trying to prove it wasn't a conspiracy... so i voted for not a conspiracy.
besides, i don't really like conspiracy theories--they make you think too much

 

[Maskirovka]

yea...when you can have 3 1-hour-long shows a day for 5 days straight full of evidence that says its a conspiracy...there's defenitely something true somewhere in there.

even if only one of the 10-15 (i dunno if they repeated any) shows are true, it was a conspiracy. each show went over some totally different evidence/theory.

i think the best show was about the guy who used computers to analyze kennedy's head wound from the zapruder film and autopsy pictures.

for those who didn't see:
he made a recreation of the head wound that showed it could only have come from the front. he also used an analysis technique to show that the autopsy photos were faked (one was painted over, the other used mortician's wax to recreate part of kennedy's head that showed the frontal-lobe entrance wound)
he also showed (using the head wound re-creation) that the bullet came from below the vehicle...most likely from a sewer hole in the curb along the motorcade path....the sewer spot had a perfect escape route as well.

this guy had tons of experience with these techniques, and his expert testimony and his creation of evidence using these techniques have been admitted in federal court multiple times.

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anyway that was some of the most convincing stuff, though there was a lot more

 

[Maskirovka]

Originally posted by dfc05
i don't really like conspiracy theories--they make you think too much

what a horrible reason to believe it wasn't a conspiracy...why even vote when you're just voicing a random opinion?

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Maskirovka
he also showed (using the head wound re-creation) that the bullet came from below the vehicle...most likely from a sewer hole in the curb along the motorcade path....the sewer spot had a perfect escape route as well.

And did he check if there was a sewer hole there in the entry direction? Just curious if it was a crappy theory or something that could actually be true

I think the lone gunman theory could actually be true. I mean, it wouldnt be THAT hard to assinate him in an open car if you could shoot. Now I would say its almost impossible without a well coordinated team (unless you get extremely lucky). But back then... Just looking at the videos, you didnt even have to snipe him! Just move a bit towards the car with a camera, pull up a gun and shoot him. Suicidal, but effective, hehe.

That is the F.U.C.K.E.D. organisations official standpoint anyway. The agents that was in Dallas that day do have an alibi, they where at a conference for helping starving children in 3rd world countries. F.U.C.K.E.D. makes the world a better place... We raised 300 million that day, 250 million came from an unknown contributor in the FBI!

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally posted by Maskirovka
why even vote when you're just voicing a random opinion?

what better reason is there? similar to dfc05, i didn't see the thc shows, but i saw network shows that were all 'no conspiracy'. the one that got me though was the interview i saw with the wife of that connelly dude. she was in the car and was like, "no way, oswald was the only shooter, i heard the 3 shoots come from behind me, there were no other shooters, byatch!". of course, the number of shooters is a different question than whether or not it's a conspiracy, oswald could've been a patsy. but i voted "no" anyway, cuz i wanted to voice a random opinion.

 

[mchammer75040]

Originally posted by dawdler
I think the lone gunman theory could actually be true.

I believe it has already been ruled out for a number of reasons:

-Witnesses say they heard 3 shots, in the span of 6 seconds. I was reading on a woman who got threatened by the FBI cause she said it was 3 shots not one. They started telling her here family was introuble...

-His wife said there was 3 shots, id believe her (who was in the car) then some punkass/crooked FBI agent. The reason I keep bringing up the 3 supposed shots is that its impossible for one man to get off 3 shots in 6 seconds.

- I watched a show on either History channel or Discovery that said if you break up the sounds its actually 6 shots but they are shot in double motion to make it sound like only 3 shots. Which hints at a well orchestrated hit.

 

[SLH]

Originally posted by mchammer75040
its impossible for one man to get off 3 shots in 6 seconds.

I watched the program last night shown by the BBC. They showed, by recreating the event using that shakey-cam's footage that the shots were made in 8 seconds. We we were also shown timed footage of someone firing 3 shots in 8 seconds, with a good amount of time to take aim.


I havn't voted yet as i only saw the 1 program, which was on the no conspiracy side.

 

[dawdler]

I know it was 3 shots. An old guy described it. And guess what it sounded like...

Boom... [reload]... Boom... [reload]... Boom...

Could his memory be wrong? Probably. But its quite a difference from boom...boom...boom... and boomboom...boom... or whatever combination of booms you want. How big chance is there that 3 people could time their shots so exact?

And even a good old rifle such as the german G41 sniper had a firerate of about 50 rounds a minute. Thats what, 5 rounds in 6 seconds?
Could easily be proven if someone say what kind of rifle he used though. I assume *someone* has already thought of that and found it to be quite possible, or this discussion is pointless since it couldnt possibly be him (and assuming 3 rounds is accurate, which I beleive it is).

 

[Brian Damage]

Well, he wasn't shot by the dude in the repository, that's for sure. The angles were all wrong.

 

[theneb]

Now extend it all to the rest of the family, did they find out something which comprimised the secret?
E.g like a diary saying "Other members of the government are out to kill me"

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Well, he wasn't shot by the dude in the repository, that's for sure. The angles were all wrong.

Amazing what forum dwellers know! I mean, whats the point with qualified investigators looking at it for years when we have this forum and an answer in a day! :cheese:

 

[Brian Damage]

Originally posted by dawdler
Amazing what forum dwellers know! I mean, whats the point with qualified investigators looking at it for years when we have this forum and an answer in a day! :cheese:

Yes. For all life's answers, visit the HL2.net forums .

Seriously, though, I was basing what I said on what was said by qualified investigators...:E

 

[Maskirovka]

Originally posted by dawdler
And did he check if there was a sewer hole there in the entry direction? Just curious if it was a crappy theory or something that could actually be true

yes, there was a hole in the curb (no grate or anything) along the route in perfect position...it had a perfect escape route as well.

if i'm not mistaken, the 3-shots-6-seconds thing is incorrect. i think it sprang up from the fact that the zapruder film has missing frames that were damaged during its initial processing by kodak. the missing frames are more time that wasn't considered in the timing.

even so, they've done demonstrations where experienced snipers have fired 3 shots in 6 seconds easily with the same make bolt-action rifle oswald supposedly used.

and brian damage's post was correct, the angles were wrong, hence the sewer theory.

also, the warren comission's "magic bullet" theory is just retarded...how can that be the final product of their investigation unless they were corrupt or using some kind of incorrect information (like the faked autopsy photos) to get messed up wound angles.

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there was also a man interviewed who said he had seen the real autopsy photographs. the real photos, he said, had a frontal entrance wound, and a massive exit wound in the back of the head.

the man who showed him the photographs later "committed suicide"

except the man was left-handed, and he supposedly shot himself with his right hand.

another man interviewed recognized the name of this "suicide guy" on a documentary about the assassination where they listed 40-some people who had met early, violent deaths after being associated in some way with the assassination. he recognized it as a man he was asked to kill.

he was asked while stationed at fort bragg, north carolina, which is the home of US special forces. he says he and another guy were approached by a CIA officer who asked them to kill this man with the photos (the CIA guy named him).

the guy who was interviewed refused, and he never saw his special forces buddy again. when he saw that the guy had been killed for supposedly having kennedy autopsy photos, he tried to contact his old buddy to say "hey remember that guy they wanted us to kill?"

he dug out his old service records to find his buddy's army serial number...he wrote several letters to try and find his current whereabouts and got no response. later, with the help of some people he knew in government (a senator i think), he got on the phone with the correct people, who told him that there was never anyone by that name in the army and they didn't know anyone with that serial number.

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he has both the old records that show his and his friend's names and serial numbers as being at fort bragg together. he also has a document that says nobody was ever in the army with that name or serial number.

this is just one more of these types of stories that were on the hist. channel shows all week....everything but a recording of someone saying "yeah that was cool when i shot kennedy from a sewer grate and they blamed oswald"

 

[Brian Damage]

This all reminds me of a cartoon I once saw.

There are several Secret Service men running after the president and the man who has kidnapped him. One of them goes to shoot at the kidnapper, and the head guy goes, "No, wait! You'll hit the President! What are you thinking? We're FBI, not CIA!"

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Maskirovka
yes, there was a hole in the curb (no grate or anything) along the route in perfect position...it had a perfect escape route as well.

if i'm not mistaken, the 3-shots-6-seconds thing is incorrect. i think it sprang up from the fact that the zapruder film has missing frames that were damaged during its initial processing by kodak. the missing frames are more time that wasn't considered in the timing.

even so, they've done demonstrations where experienced snipers have fired 3 shots in 6 seconds easily with the same make bolt-action rifle oswald supposedly used.

and brian damage's post was correct, the angles were wrong, hence the sewer theory.

also, the warren comission's "magic bullet" theory is just retarded...how can that be the final product of their investigation unless they were corrupt or using some kind of incorrect information (like the faked autopsy photos) to get messed up wound angles.

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there was also a man interviewed who said he had seen the real autopsy photographs. the real photos, he said, had a frontal entrance wound, and a massive exit wound in the back of the head.

the man who showed him the photographs later "committed suicide"

except the man was left-handed, and he supposedly shot himself with his right hand.

another man interviewed recognized the name of this "suicide guy" on a documentary about the assassination where they listed 40-some people who had met early, violent deaths after being associated in some way with the assassination. he recognized it as a man he was asked to kill.

he was asked while stationed at fort bragg, north carolina, which is the home of US special forces. he says he and another guy were approached by a CIA officer who asked them to kill this man with the photos (the CIA guy named him).

the guy who was interviewed refused, and he never saw his special forces buddy again. when he saw that the guy had been killed for supposedly having kennedy autopsy photos, he tried to contact his old buddy to say "hey remember that guy they wanted us to kill?"

he dug out his old service records to find his buddy's army serial number...he wrote several letters to try and find his current whereabouts and got no response. later, with the help of some people he knew in government (a senator i think), he got on the phone with the correct people, who told him that there was never anyone by that name in the army and they didn't know anyone with that serial number.

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he has both the old records that show his and his friend's names and serial numbers as being at fort bragg together. he also has a document that says nobody was ever in the army with that name or serial number.

this is just one more of these types of stories that were on the hist. channel shows all week....everything but a recording of someone saying "yeah that was cool when i shot kennedy from a sewer grate and they blamed oswald"

And you know, if you look at the videos really close you can see a fat guy in the background, supposedly screaming "Oh my God, they killed Kenny!" according to witnesses.

 

[Maskirovka]

Originally posted by dawdler
And you know, if you look at the videos really close you can see a fat guy in the background, supposedly screaming "Oh my God, they killed Kenny!" according to witnesses.

lame...south park was cool...5 years ago.

 

[mrchimp]

I saw a show that proved all the conspiracy theorys wrong, this guy had created a too scale 3d enviroment that simulated the assination exactly, the only way it could have been done was by the idiot in the libary who was incidently a sharpshooter, so he could have done it from twice the distance.

There were no holes in the programs evidence and they had plenty of history and facts to back it up. They even had the guy who made the movie JFK basically saying he made most of it up. The fact is people would like to think the president was killed for a reason other than so some guy could get his face in the history books.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Originally posted by Maskirovka
the man who showed him the photographs later "committed suicide"

except the man was left-handed, and he supposedly shot himself with his right hand.

That doesn't really prove anything, I'm left handed but I'll fire a weapon or hold a sword with my right hand without thinking about it.

 

[mrchimp]

"Everything being equal the simplest explanation is the correct one"

 

[mchammer75040]

Originally posted by dawdler
I know it was 3 shots. An old guy described it. And guess what it sounded like...

Boom... [reload]... Boom... [reload]... Boom...

Could his memory be wrong? Probably. But its quite a difference from boom...boom...boom... and boomboom...boom... or whatever combination of booms you want. How big chance is there that 3 people could time their shots so exact?

They could have easily timed their shots. I dont know though the way you put that it sounds like it makes more sense, more than likely when I heard that it was from someone who was biased. Also I wanna bring in another thing about the whole incident. Ok when oswold was arrested in a movie theater, then without being read his rights hes just automatically arrested for the assasination. Then when they are in the underground parking lot of the police station he gets shot by Ruby and dies. Now how in the hell is it that one lone gunmen surrounded by cops get down there and get a shot off on him.
And why wasnt he searched. But then again there was media there so he could have easily been disguised as one.
The way I look at it is they blamed someone then just killed him, end of story. I dont know though, someone bring up some points on this.

 

[mrchimp]

Originally posted by mchammer75040
They could have easily timed their shots. I dont know though the way you put that it sounds like it makes more sense, more than likely when I heard that it was from someone who was biased. Also I wanna bring in another thing about the whole incident. Ok when oswold was arrested in a movie theater, then without being read his rights hes just automatically arrested for the assasination. Then when they are in the underground parking lot of the police station he gets shot by Ruby and dies. Now how in the hell is it that one lone gunmen surrounded by cops get down there and get a shot off on him.
And why wasnt he searched. But then again there was media there so he could have easily been disguised as one.
The way I look at it is they blamed someone then just killed him, end of story. I dont know though, someone bring up some points on this.

Ruby was friends with the police so they let him down there, he also ran a strip club so there's no reason why he would be working as a hitman. He was however very quick to anger and had a long history of doing things that he thought he would get praised for but never did.

 

[mchammer75040]

Heres some sites Ive been lookin at:

http://www.parascope.com/ds/papertrail/paperTrailJFK.htm

Intresting forum post from a conspiracy forum/site:
http://www.bvalphaserver.com/modules.php?name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=8639#pid49897

Heres another site, dont know if its pro-assasination though:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Heres a theory posted on that same forum:
"Claims William Cooper shot JFK.

I believe the actual \"Government Agents\" shot him, because JFk supposedly showed Marilyn Munroe a map about an extraterrestrial celestial body harbored life. He wasn\'t suppose to show her. You notice how JFK\'s death occured 2 weeks after marilyn munoroe\'s death. huh?"

Another about the same theory:
"JFK died two weeks after Munroe. Munroe died two DAYS after she announced (according to Nick Redfern\'s research) she knew of JFKs intention to uncover the truth behind the UFO cover-up. They say she died from an overdose of barbiturates..Dorothy Kilgallen, who wrote an article about this, for the mag she worked for, died soon after from \'an overdose of barbiturates\'. (According to Redfern\'s research. It\'s in the first chapter of his book, \'Cosmic Crashes\'. The chapter\'s called \'A president, an actress and a reporter\'."


Heres a motive:
"3 days before jfks death he signed the papers that would end the war in nam, the illuminati couldn\'t have this , so they killed him."


Heres a couple of other things, like this photo:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/limo2.jpg
See how both cops arent beside the president? They are both to the left and behind it giving a clear shot.

Moments before assasination:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/altgens2.jpg

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/altgens.jpg

To me I think thats WAY too fishy for the cops to not be by his side, and it just happens to be a few moments away from him being shot.

Heres a photo gallery:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/photogal.htm

Heres another intresting post:

"the zapruder film was kept from the American public until 1967 which means changing of frames or anything else for that matter could have taken place. Anybody who has seen it will notice alot of skipping in the scenes which i guess is acceptable for how old and how bad the camera was, but like i said they could have edited it anyway that want.

i have heard the story of the driver possibly shooting him but no way could a pistol done that much damage, a more likely scenerio is that he MIGHT have fired a dart that paralyzed jfk, although if jfk was hit with such a dart i believe that it came from "the umbrella man", in later years it has been admitted by the CIA under oath that such a weapon did exsist to temporarily paralyze someone when the umbrella is put up. an autospy of the brain would be able to show if he had been hit with one but of course jfk's brain has been missing from the National Archives since the mid-60s"


Also another suspicious thing to consider is the FBI wont reveal the JFK files intil 2028! Ha! If thats not evidence in its self i dont know what is! By that time no-one will be able to be blamed for the murder, cause they could be close to 100 years old!


Pray for the hammer that the FBI doesnt come after me for giving out all this info.
:dozey: F*CK THE GOVERNMENT!

 

[mchammer75040]

Originally posted by mrchimp
Ruby was friends with the police so they let him down there, he also ran a strip club so there's no reason why he would be working as a hitman. He was however very quick to anger and had a long history of doing things that he thought he would get praised for but never did.

Yea i just read up on that, that he was friends with the cops from the strip club. Still think it is suspicious though.

 

[Maskirovka]

Originally posted by Fenric1138
That doesn't really prove anything, I'm left handed but I'll fire a weapon or hold a sword with my right hand without thinking about it.

no, but among the other circumstances it's definitely wierd...and you're probably sort of ambidextrous...i have a friend who's left-handed and when he saw the show he was like "wow, i would never use a gun in my right hand."

 

[mrchimp]

It would be alot more interesting if it was a conspiracy, but i don't think it is. TBH i think there is more evidence of an alien cover up than that JFK was killed for a proper reason.

 

[mchammer75040]

Heres some news articles from '63 that backs up the conspiracy theorys
http://www.jfklink.com/html/scrapbook.htm

In 1993
216- Files on the ( jfk) assassination were released and placed in the NSA (FOIA) reading room.
They Are Here:
http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/jfk.html

Heres a thread about these articles, they are displaying them and talkin about them:
http://www.bvalphaserver.com/postt24859.html

 

[mchammer75040]

Originally posted by mrchimp
It would be alot more interesting if it was a conspiracy, but i don't think it is. TBH i think there is more evidence of an alien cover up than that JFK was killed for a proper reason.

The only thing I have to say is why wont they release all of the documents now instead of in 2028? That right there is just way too suspcious. Plus they had the perfect motive to kill JFK-he wanted peace, and avoided invading Cubia. War brings money into this country and they are a bunch of money hungry hippos.

 

[Maskirovka]

here's a pic of one of the sewer entrances...you could also walk about 20 minutes from the sewer to a larger exit much further away.

http://pro.corbis.com/popup/enlarge...rrentPos=2&JT=0&page=enlargement&TotalCount=2


a split-view...the top is the outside, the bottom is from inside the sewer (not the best view i've seen)
http://pro.corbis.com/popup/enlarge...rrentPos=1&JT=0&page=enlargement&TotalCount=2


the magic bullet:
http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/magic-bullet.jpg

official autopsy photos...the ones that were claimed to be edited:
http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html

in that second picture down, the guy used a photo-analysis technique to prove that mortician's wax was used to reconstruct part of kennedy's head.

 

[mchammer75040]

Whoa...autopsy photos...mommy my tummy hurts.

 

[mrchimp]

War is expensive, any money it brings in is proberly countered by the costs of the war itself. I don't know which files you are talking about, but they have already released over a million pages and nobody has found any conspiracys in them. Also if it was a conspiracy they would just release fake documents.

I think the problem with proveing it wasn't a conspiracy lies in the fact that people trying to prove it was will just make stuff up and rely on people's paranoia.

 

[mrchimp]

the magic bullet:
http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/magic-bullet.jpg

That diagram is wrong, for a start connally is sitting in the wrong position, not only was he lower down than Kennedy but he was sitting turned to the side and his seat was not directly infront of kennedy but instead slightly to the side. The bullet entrance location is taken from kennedys shirt not his actuall body and his posture is completely wrong.

In short, that diagram is complete bullshit and whoever made it knows it, or didn't if it's just a recreation from the diagram in JFK the movie.

 

[mchammer75040]

Originally posted by mrchimp
War is expensive, any money it brings in is proberly countered by the costs of the war itself. I don't know which files you are talking about, but they have already released over a million pages and nobody has found any conspiracys in them. Also if it was a conspiracy they would just release fake documents.

I think the problem with proveing it wasn't a conspiracy lies in the fact that people trying to prove it was will just make stuff up and rely on people's paranoia.

http://www.iath.virginia.edu/seminar/unit10/war2.htm

"In showing the position of the bondholder and the stockbroker I desire to read an extract from a letter written by a member of the New York Stock Exchange to his customers. This writer says: Regarding the war as inevitable, Wall Street believes that it would be preferable to this uncertainty about the actual date of its commencement. Canada and Japan are at war, and are more prosperous than ever before. The popular view is that stocks would have a quick, clear, sharp reaction immediately upon outbreak of hostilities, and that then they would enjoy an old-fashioned bull market such as followed the outbreak of war with Spain in 1898. The advent of peace would force a readjustment of commodity prices and would probably mean a postponement of new enterprises. As peace negotiations would be long drawn out, the period of waiting and uncertainty for business would be long. If the United States does not go to war it is nevertheless good opinion that the preparedness program will compensate in good measure for the loss of the stimulus of actual war.

Their object in having war and in preparing for war is to make money. Human suffering and the sacrifice of human life are necessary, but Wall Street considers only the dollars and the cents. The men who do the fighting, the people who make the sacrifices, are the ones who will not be counted in the measure of this great prosperity that he depicts. The stock brokers would not, of course, go to war, because the very object they have in bringing on the war is profit, and therefore they must remain in their Wall Street offices in order to share in that great prosperity which they say war will bring. The volunteer officer, even the drafting officer, will not find them. They will be concealed in their palatial offices on Wall Street, sitting behind mahogany desks, covered up with clipped coupons coupons soiled with the sweat of honest toil, coupons stained with mothers' tears, coupons dyed in the lifeblood of their fellow men.


We are taking a step today that is fraught with untold danger. We are going into war upon the command of gold. We are going to run the risk of sacrificing millions of our countrymen's lives in order that other countrymen may coin their lifeblood into money. And even if we do not cross the Atlantic and go into the trenches, we are going to pile up a debt that the toiling masses that shall come many generations after us will have to pay. Unborn millions will bend their backs in toil in order to pay for the terrible step we are now about to take. We are about to do the bidding of wealth's terrible mandate. By our act we will make millions of our countrymen suffer, and the consequences of it may well be that millions of our brethren must shed their life blood, millions of broken-hearted women must weep millions of children must suffer with cold, and millions of babes must die from hunger, and all because we want to preserve the commercial right of American citizens to delver munitions of war to belligerent nations."



Whos to say they didnt release fake documents? From the documents Ive seen there is also blotted out sections...just like in the UFO files. I believe it is a conspiracy, Im not paranoid but for me the evidence points towards conspiracy. If anything points elsewhere by proving a good point or proving everything wrong posted here then I wont think it s a conspiracy.

EDIT: g2g ill be on later tonight, but dont expect a reply til then.

 

[dawdler]

Now how in the hell is it that one lone gunmen surrounded by cops get down there and get a shot off on him.

You do realize the irony in that, do you?

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally posted by mchammer75040
g2g ill be on later tonight, but dont expect a reply til then. [/B][/QUOTE] ;(

 

[Kadayi]

On BBC2 they had a 1.5 hr long show that was about disproving the conspiracy theories, and it was pretty good, upto the point where Kennedy gets his brains blown out. They pretty much based their opinion on that shot coming from Oswald from the autopsy reports of a rear entry wound to the head. But when you look at the footage, it's hard to fathom how that can be so, he's so clearly thrown backwards by the impact.

 

[mrchimp]

Originally posted by mchammer75040

Whos to say they didnt release fake documents? From the documents Ive seen there is also blotted out sections...just like in the UFO files. I believe it is a conspiracy, Im not paranoid but for me the evidence points towards conspiracy. If anything points elsewhere by proving a good point or proving everything wrong posted here then I wont think it s a conspiracy.

The blotted out sections in the documents concerning JFK are very small and are likely to be covering up phone numbers and addresses that can't be disclosed for privacy reasons. The UFO files on the other hand had upto a 1000 words blocked out in one go.

It's true that some buisinesess will prosper from a war but for the most part your average corperation will sufer from a nervous market. The war in Iraq proper ****ed up the market, apart from companys that directly benefit from mass military operations, it is really not a good thing.

I admit there are reasons why the FBI or CIA might have wanted JFK dead but they are very weak circumstantial evidence.

 

[mrchimp]

Originally posted by Kadayi Polokov
On BBC2 they had a 1.5 hr long show that was about disproving the conspiracy theories, and it was pretty good, upto the point where Kennedy gets his brains blown out. They pretty much based their opinion on that shot coming from Oswald from the autopsy reports of a rear entry wound to the head. But when you look at the footage, it's hard to fathom how that can be so, he's so clearly thrown backwards by the impact.

I watched that show and they said when a body gets hit it can go forward or backward, they didn't give a reason though, although It is in theory possible that his head went forward inbetween frames and came back alot slower. His head was already quite far forward when he got hit for the third time so it could have moved forward and hit his chest then rebounded backwards. Haveing said that i havn't done the maths, so don't quote me on it, but a 27th of a second seems long enough to move a couple of cm's.

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Kadayi Polokov
But when you look at the footage, it's hard to fathom how that can be so, he's so clearly thrown backwards by the impact.

I thought you didnt get thrown back by a bullet, but maybe a rifle round in the head does that, hehe.