Jimmy Carter: Bush worst president in american history

Thank you, Kirovman, for posting so that I didn't have to.

I ate Winston Churchill.

*HATE
 
The Soviets would have crushed Germany. And Western Europe probably.
Along with, possibly, Japan. See Operation August Storm. Also, I always enjoy pointing out that the USSR, at the end of WWII, had more tanks and artillery than every other nation on Earth combined.
 
What stopped Germany from invading us was the bravery of RAF pilots, the failures of the Luftwaffe, and the superiority of our tactical situation (they had to turn back quick to refuel and we didn't; we had a large superior navy and they didn't). I very much doubt the presence of a few peaceniks would have affected the outcome of that battle.

On the other hand, had 'hippies' stopped us from declaring war on Germany, they might never have bothered us, so we probably wouldn't have been occupied.

Meanwhile, our Prime Minister before WW2 was not, in fact, a 'hippy' of any description, but he did attempt to appease the Germans as did his fellow 'world leaders' who essentially sold Czechoslovakia away to the nazis. Meanwhile, much of the political establishment of Britain was all for keeping Hitler sweet while refusing to help out the legitimately-elected (leftist) government over in Spain even as thousands of people from all over the country volunteered to fight in the Independent Brigades.

Who mentioned hippies anyway? What do 60s hedonists have to do with any of this anyway? Do you even think about what you're saying?

I could try to parody you, but it'd be pointless, because you're doing it yourself as you go along. Everything you say could be an ironic piss take of the particular brand of cliched retardo-politics you seem to have embraced.
I think they were referred to as the international brigades.
 
Sorry, yes, you're quite right.
Haha no worries.

I actually find the international brigades amazingly inspiring, thousands of people, not all of them socialists signed up to stand side by side with their brothers and sisters and fight fascism and the Nazis, all volunteers.
 
I didn't say otherwise. I was merely using actual facts to undermine his stupid assertion.

Understanding of the tactical situation with relevant application of information > stupid, cliched generalisation.

Note that the Germans did indeed come very close to 'pounding us into submission', though they didn't know it - but just as they were about to take out RAF high command, they switched tactics and started bombing London, which was generally ineffective for the purposes of paving the way for an invasion.

They needed total air superiority over the channel or else their invasion fleet, which consisted mainly of flat-bottomed barges, would never even have gotten to the other side. There were plans, if it became necessary, to use a huge wedge of big ships to ram the German invasion formation and overturn the barges.

Not to mention that the channel was really the only place they could invade at that time, and invasion depended on good weather...

Germany would have relied on the same tactics which they used in Greece...elite para troopers if you really think that the brits would have lasted if Germany ignored Russia,then I must say you are to optimistic
 
First, I didn't say anything about Russia. Not sure where you're getting that from. I didn't claim we'd have been able to hold out indefinitely. However, it should be noted that the Germans attempted to invade and we successfully resisted the attempt before Russia even entered the war.

With the RAF maintaining air superiority over the channel and southern England, and with the climate in Britain being (afaik) rather more turbulent than over Greece, I'm not sure how much success elite paratroopers would have had, how practical such a plan would be.

Of course, you may well be right. But hippies still have nothing to do with it, so what exactly is your point?
 
did I say something abut Hippies?
I may have...but not in the post you respoded too.I haven't been on this board in th elast 3 days or so.
 
The original point of my post was not to argue that Britain could hold out indefinitely against the Germans but to dispute Manc's bullshit claim that 'hippies', had they existed in WW2, would have somehow lost us the war and had us "speaking German".

EDIT: I've no idea.

I still didn't even mention Russia. :p

Britain was in a fairly good tactical position at that time. I just think it would have been very hard to invade without destroying the RAF. The Germans almost managed to take out fighter command, but they switched tactics just before victory. We can only presume they had no idea how close they came.
 
Still, there's no point in gloating over the hypotheticals.

"Well, Ghenghis Kahn could have discovered America. And where would that leave you now? IN HOT WATER HAHAHA!"
 
Still, there's no point in gloating over the hypotheticals.

"Well, Ghenghis Kahn could have discovered America. And where would that leave you now? IN HOT WATER HAHAHA!"
I heard Ghengis Khan was very close to discovering the atomb bomb. But whatever.

Funny how this thread evolved from Bush-bashing to hippies and WW2.
 
" India is the second most populous nation on earth, with 1 billion, and George W. Bush may be the most popular American president ever in that country."
I know for a fact that this isn't true. None of the 3 major parties here have any respect for Bush.
Right now we're just being polite to push the nuclear deal through.

As for the ppl, I personally have never met anyone who didn't think the unholy trio of Bush-Rice-Rumsfeld deserve execution. :x
 
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