John F. Kennedy Assassination - What's your position?

[Pauly]

Then if your not suspicious your doomed to have leader's who openly admit they have some kind of weird exclusive cult where you dont really know whats going on! (and these are the people you are supposed to trust), so you cant say that they dont do that stuff because you dont know, and opposed to your opinion Jones has actually been there and snuck into a meeting.. video taped and seen them performing a mock sacrifice to an owl called molek... that strikes me as fooking weird.

agreed



Bush and Kerry were both COUSINS and were BOTH in skull and bones which has only 15 members capped a year.

Once again I say... 290 million americans... and our candidates for president were both in a top secret organization with only 15 members a year.
Crazy!
Oh and don't tell me that Bush does not go to Bohemian Grove and takes place in a babylonian ritual of mock-sacrifice to a owl like god moloch.
Don't deny that skull and bones does not exist or that the bohemian grove and rituals don't exist becasue they do. Kerry and Bush both have said on Meet the Press that they were both in skull and bones but then quickly changed the topic.

 

[satch919]

Okay, enough with the Skull & Bones society and the Bohemian Grove stuff. It's interesting but it has nothing to do with the JFK assassination. On topic please. Thx. :dozey:

 

[Pauly]

Okay, enough with the Skull & Bones society and the Bohemian Grove stuff. It's interesting but it has nothing to do with the JFK assassination. On topic please. Thx. :dozey:

Sure it does! Many people with high positions with the CIA/FBI/Government were in skull and bones/ bohemian club. When John F. Kennedy didnt allow Operation Northwoods to pass those people were pissed at JFK, really pissed.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

you must be exagerating at least a tad bit cuz no school board would allow a teacher to deviate that far from the set curriculum

Oh no, he teaches German, and gets that done. We do complete each lesson for the day and such.

And I honest to goodness am not exagerating. He got in trouble last year because he said that the NWO orchestrated 9/11. He always pushes it just a little far. I predict he will eventually end up getting fired for it but he pushes it as far as he can but not past the point of getting fired.

 

[Dog--]

Y'know, I could care less - I AM CANADIAN!

 

[ailevation]

I think he was assasined by agent of american powerful group or secret government because he failed in invasion to Cuba (Bay of Pigs).
Kennedy decided against giving the faltering invasion US air support and he also canceled several sorties of bombings (only two took place) on the grounded Cuban Airforce, which might have crippled the Cuban Airforce and given air superiority to the invaders.
If FOIA will give some informations about assasination, they can't tell the truth to people...

"There is still a conspiracy, the shadow government of powerful, invisible men,
the engineers of the future, we can't see them, we can't stop them."

I walked into my neighbors house, on his kitchen table laid a video tape, about a man from unknown area in Africa, who claims to have knowledge and evidence of a reptilian race that has called the shots for thousands of years.

Anyways... I believe Kennedy was assassinated because he was going to reveal the truth about Aliens and shit. The government, being a little akward with that, fearing the public might go nuts- they had Kennedy assassinated.

 

[Polaris]

I walked into my neighbors house, on his kitchen table laid a video tape, about a man from unknown area in Africa, who claims to have knowledge and evidence of a reptilian race that has called the shots for thousands of years.

Anyways... I believe Kennedy was assassinated because he was going to reveal the truth about Aliens and shit. The government, being a little akward with that, fearing the public might go nuts- they had Kennedy assassinated.

But I don't believe in alien conpiracy (in this case)...

 

[satch919]

Sure it does! Many people with high positions with the CIA/FBI/Government were in skull and bones/ bohemian club. When John F. Kennedy didnt allow Operation Northwoods to pass those people were pissed at JFK, really pissed.

OKay, have it your way. This will no doubt lead into alien conspiracy theories though. Start another thread on the Bohemian Grove people or Skull and Bones. This is exactly the reason why people shy away from this subject. Someone always tries to tie it into aliens or some other far out theory.

 

[short recoil]

XOMGH!!!! THE BLACK TRIANGLES!!!
*short recoil runs and hides in the corner covering himself in tin foil*

 

[JNightshade]

*JNightshade peels off tin foil and eats short recoil*

 

[Sulkdodds]

*Sulkdodds orders the theft of dangerous technology from the Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire, hides it in a vault under the Vatican and uses the threat of destruction and recycled echoes of ancient fears to engineer a media circus and a complete rejiggering of the Catholic faith.*

 

[clarky003]

OKay, have it your way. This will no doubt lead into alien conspiracy theories though. Start another thread on the Bohemian Grove people or Skull and Bones. This is exactly the reason why people shy away from this subject. Someone always tries to tie it into aliens or some other far out theory.

lol thats true, but if we all stayed sensible about the topic despite the out there theories anyway then the trolls and overused sarcasm wouldnt come out to play.

 

[jondy]

*Sulkdodds orders the theft of dangerous technology from the Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire, hides it in a vault under the Vatican and uses the threat of destruction and recycled echoes of ancient fears to engineer a media circus and a complete rejiggering of the Catholic faith.*

DAMN YOU DAN BROWN!!!!1

 

[dream431ca]

Y'know, I could care less - I AM CANADIAN!

It's people like you who make Canada look bad, shut your mouth on this topic from now on.

 

[Darkside55]

KENNEDY SLAIN BY CIA, MAFIA, CASTRO, LBJ, TEAMSTERS, FREEMASONS
President Shot 129 Times from 43 Different Angles

DALLAS, TEX.--

President Kennedy was assassinated Friday by operatives of the CIA, the Giancana crime syndicate, Fidel Castro, Vice President Johnson, the Freemasons and the Teamsters as he rode through downtown Dallas in a motorcade.

According to eyewitnesses, Kennedy's limousine had just entered Dealey Plaza when the president was struck 129 times in the head, chest, abdomen, arms, legs, hands, feet, back and face by gunfire. The shooting began at 12:30 p.m. and lasted until 12:43 p.m. CST.

In all, 43 suspects have been taken into the custody of the Dallas police.

Preliminary reports indicate that hitmen for the Giancana crime syndicate fired from a nearby grassy knoll, CIA agents fired from an office building slightly off the parade route, Cuban nationals fired from an overpass overlooking Dealey Plaza, an elite hit squad working for Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa fired from perches atop an oak tree, a 'lone nut' fired from the Texas Book depository, a shadow-government sharp-shooting team fired from behind a wooden fence, a consortium of jealous husbands fired from an estimated 13 sites on the sidewalk along the route, a hitman working for Johnson fired from a sewer grate over which the limousine passed, and Texas Gov. John Connally lunged at the president from within the limousine itself, slitting the president's throat with a combat knife.

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All joking aside, my position is that it was just a lone gunman. I don't have any reason why I think that, and I have no evidence to back it up or dispute it. In the end, does it really matter?

 

[Sulkdodds]

What's your position?

Behind the grassy knoll.

I'm sorry if a similar joke has already been made in this thread.

 

[satch919]

All joking aside, my position is that it was just a lone gunman. I don't have any reason why I think that, and I have no evidence to back it up or dispute it. In the end, does it really matter?

That's just it. People hold certain beliefs without even knowing why they think that way. Perhaps only because the media has jammed it down your throat or maybe because the truth is really hard to understand. But for whatever reason previously mentioned, the government and all other political parties rely on the citizen's ignorance. Don't be like everyone else. Seek out the information and don't expect others to spoon feed it to you.

Yes, it does matter. If what has been proposed is true then we have a government that murdered it's own President. Since it was successful in it's mission, it's strength would have grown immensely since then. Checks and balances would be nearly non-existant and this entity would be free to do whatever it wants without consent of the people or our representatives.

While I can't force you to research it, I think it might be beneficial to take a look at both sides and make a decision.

 

[Polaris]

Or he commited suicide?

 

[halflifeguy]

Does it really matter who shot him? And where he was shot from? And if there were multiple shooters? The man is dead. Who cares? The only mystery the I see that is WORTH solving is why he was shot. Because he was a great man and i dont see why anyone would have a need to kill him

 

[Pauly]

Does it really matter who shot him? And where he was shot from? And if there were multiple shooters? The man is dead. Who cares? The only mystery the I see that is WORTH solving is why he was shot. Because he was a great man and i dont see why anyone would have a need to kill him

If your government shot him I think you would care. Why did would someone shoot him? Because he took big measuers to stop the government from making mock terror attacks on guantanomo bay. (Operation Northwoods) again....

 

[satch919]

If your government shot him I think you would care. Why did would someone shoot him? Because he took big measuers to stop the government from making mock terror attacks on guantanomo bay. (Operation Northwoods) again....

I did a little research on Operation Northwoods. I didn't even know that such a think existed! Interesting stuff. Thanks for mentioning that.

 

[Raziaar]

Bush was involved in the Kennedy Assassination.

 

[CptStern]

maybe it was castro

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...04.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/04/ixnewstop.html

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Check this out guys. New documentary has lots of evidence/interviews with officials,etc that imply Oswald was paid by Cuban intelligence to carry out the assassination. Not crackpot but a well formulated theory.

edit; Oh shit I am beaten nevermind had posted the same article as above

 

[CptStern]

Check this out guys. New documentary has lots of evidence/interviews with officials,etc that imply Oswald was paid by Cuban intelligence to carry out the assassination. Not crackpot but a well formulated theory.

edit; Oh shit I am beaten nevermind had posted the same article as above

tit for tat ..kennedy tried to assassinate castro


I thought this was relevant:


"It was the CIA, seething over the Bay of Pigs debacle. It was the Ku Klux Klan, incensed by Kennedy's pro-civil rights stance. It was a military-industrial complex appalled by his plans to withdraw from Vietnam. It was the Mafia, in retaliation for JFK's crackdown on organised crime. It was vice-president Lyndon B Johnson, then the subject of four major criminal investigations and rumoured to be on the brink of demotion before the 1964 election, securing himself the presidency instead. It could, in short, be almost anyone."

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

tit for tat ..kennedy tried to assassinate castro


I thought this was relevant:


"It was the CIA, seething over the Bay of Pigs debacle. It was the Ku Klux Klan, incensed by Kennedy's pro-civil rights stance. It was a military-industrial complex appalled by his plans to withdraw from Vietnam. It was the Mafia, in retaliation for JFK's crackdown on organised crime. It was vice-president Lyndon B Johnson, then the subject of four major criminal investigations and rumoured to be on the brink of demotion before the 1964 election, securing himself the presidency instead. It could, in short, be almost anyone."

Yep

'The film argues Cuba wanted to eliminate Kennedy as the chief enemy of its Communist revolution, and portrays him and Castro as dueling opponents each trying to assassinate the other first.

Former CIA official Sam Halpern told Huismann: "He (Castro) beat us. He bested us. He came out on top, and we lost."'


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060104...5sDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

This was interesting:

He (Haig, mentioned in both articles) added that Robert F. Kennedy, brother of the assassinated president and attorney general in his administration, had personally ordered eight attempts on the life of Castro, who is still in power to this day.

 

[JNightshade]

Oh- by the way, my position is the hill next to the motorcade

 

[Pauly]

Theres actually a documentery claiming herbert walker bush was involved as a supervisor of the kennedy assasination

"JFK II: The Bush Connection

A thorough, documented, criminal indictment of George Herbert Walker Bush, establishing beyond a reasonable doubt his guilt as a supervisor in the conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy."

I saw it on a site a while back I never watched nor really read any of it or done my own research... so I don't know how true/false it is but just thought it was interesting you said bush did it.

I did a little research on Operation Northwoods. I didn't even know that such a think existed! Interesting stuff. Thanks for mentioning that.

I know! It's very scary to think they are dead serious in carrying the plan out... personally I think the document of operation northwoods should be known more to the american people... this is downright wrong to fake a terrorist attack and blame it on others for a war. This shows you we do have SOME corrupt people in our governmenet that really need to be kicked out immediately.

 

[Raziaar]

Actor Woody Harrelson's father is also highly suspected of being involved in the assasination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson

 

[Kangy]

I never got why they never tried to just drop a bomb (or 300) on Castro when he was in the open. Let's face it, if Castro died suspiciously, everyone would know it was the US, regardless of lack of evidence.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I never got why they never tried to just drop a bomb (or 300) on Castro when he was in the open. Let's face it, if Castro died suspiciously, everyone would know it was the US, regardless of lack of evidence.

Because Soviets would have full proof that could be deemed an 'act of war' by the US against an ally and begin WW3.

Would have to be an assassination that involvement in could be denied.

I mean, they could do it now because there's no superpower backing up Cuba, but it's not really a big threat. Chavez would be moreso if anything but not enough IMO to do anything.

 

[satch919]

Actor Woody Harrelson's father is also highly suspected of being involved in the assasination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Harrelson

Wow, never knew that! How odd!

 

[kathaksung]

262. Kennedy (10/19)

I haven't got my newspaper delivered on Sunday (10/17). This was the second time occurrence in recent four years. Last time I got a credit in my account for missing paper. This time I requested a refill even though the missing paper had to be delivered next day. I don't think it was a missing case. I thought there might be something Feds didn't want me to read.
(The missed paper appeared at my door today. I know it was the original because it was in a plastic bag with ads of a newly open store.)

I think the article they didn't want me to read is one about Kennedy. It said, "Kennedy's press chief dies in France at 79. He clouded his own legacy with conspiracy theories."

Pierre Salinger, press secretary to President John F. Kennedy and chief European correspondent for ABC News, died of a heart attack Saturday at a hospital near his home in France.

" His journalistic reputation was besmirched in the 1990's after his insistence that two major airline crashes were not what they seemed."

He said the 1988 crash of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie was a D.E.A. operation that went wrong. He also believed TWA Flight 800 was shot down near Long Island by a stray Navy missile in 1996.

I don't think it was a coincidence he died just two days(10/16) after I posted last message.(10/14) In which I talked about one of major projects of inside group in 2004 is to assassinate senator Edward Kennedy. Salinger was one who suspected the criminal activity of US government committed. He thus was a target of Inside group.

In early 90's I was intimidated by "So what, they even killed President Kennedy". (see #17. They killed President Kennedy) This was the beginning I realized the dark side of US intelligence. Instead of keeping silence I told people the assassin of JFK was FBI.

Twice I had left US trying to get rid of the persecution. Each time they killed a key member of Kennedy's family.

The first time was in July 1994. I went to China. I ordered the air flight ticket in April. Then in June, Jacklin Kennedy (widow of JF Kennedy) died of cancer. I didn't connect it to my leaving because at that time I didn't know much of Feds.

It was until in July 1999 at Hongkong, when I decided to go to South East Asia and started visiting appropriate consulates, I learned Jr. Kennedy died of air plane accident. The news reminded me of his mother's death. They both died several weeks early before I left for some countries Feds not so controlled. Feds were afraid of the reaction if my story had been revealed. They were afraid the potential political influence of Kennedy family.

Edward Kennedy is the last one of famous Kennedy's. That's why he becomes a prophecy of Anthony Carr. There was sign two months ago when news reported Edward Kennedy was banned to board US Airway's shuttle out of Washington to Boston. His name was put in the "no fly" list. It took several weeks to take his name from that list. Was it a mistake? But one thing for sure is that mistake won't take place on Bush, Ashcroft and Rumsfelt.

Feds is not the same one which assassinated President Kennedy 40 years ago. They are much stronger now armed with Patriot Act. They can open humiliate a president (Lewinsky scandal). So what to a Senator. They even predicted his death by prophecy. And to assassinate, no bullet needed anymore. Modern technique enable them to kill in covert way. They prepare heart attack for Edward Kennedy. Salinger died of it. Clinton, too, had a heart attack when he gave campaign advice to Kerry. Clinton told Kerry to abandon his Vietnam history but to focus on Iraq war. He offended the taboo of insider group and was punished by a heart attack. (see heart attack at # "5. Microwave killing" )