Jon Stewart kiks all the "real" media anchors (again)

[f|uke]

Here is why Fox News is bullshit
Source- The Washington Times:
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A winter 2003-04 poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes consistently found that members of the public whose primary news source is Fox News had a higher rate of misperceptions about Iraq than viewers of any other news source.

A June 3, 2003, memo cited in the letter instructs reporters to celebrate the president while he faces opponents on Middle East issues:

"It's a distinctly skeptical crowd that Bush faces," the memo reads. "His political courage and tactical cunning are worth noting throughout the day."

Such instructions, says former CBS news anchor Walter Cronkite in the documentary, are highly irregular. "I've never heard of any other network or any other legitimate news organization doing that."

Fox, he says, has completely "eliminated journalism," a sentiment echoed by several media analysts and former Fox employees featured in the documentary.
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Synopsis: Fox News is spoon fed right wing propiganda devoid of integrity and content.

 

[smwScott]

I'm not trying to kid anyone. You people just can't seem to understand the fact that if you are a Democrat, you like democratic "things". If you're a Republican, you like Republican things.

Come on, you can't tell me that Fox is a joke and the other news organization are just "not very credible". I remember this thing. Perhaps you may remember it? It was between CBS and a number of documents regarding Bush's military record? Yeah, turns out those we're fake.

You're wrong. I'm a liberal and I don't like to watch news that is partisan to my point of view. I like objective news that reports the facts and allows the viewers to make of it what they wish. FOX News is nothing but a giant propaganda machine that feeds the ignorant masses of this country. How the f**k are you supposed to have an informed opinion if you only ever listen to one side of the issue?

I'm not going to defend other news organizations like CNN, CBS, etc. I don't watch those either, but not because they're too liberal or conservative. The liberal media died a long time ago. Now it's just a bunch of shows with two groups of people with simplistic opposing views yelling at each other. It's a reality show with a lower level of degradation and humiliation, and a higher level of bullshit.

 

[dart321]

No. You insulted me, made me cry, and then left.

Thats it! My machine-gun camels against you're shotgun imus!

Bring.

It.

On.

 

[Foxtrot]

Source- The Washington Times:
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A winter 2003-04 poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes consistently found that members of the public whose primary news source is Fox News had a higher rate of misperceptions about Iraq than viewers of any other news source.

A June 3, 2003, memo cited in the letter instructs reporters to celebrate the president while he faces opponents on Middle East issues:

"It's a distinctly skeptical crowd that Bush faces," the memo reads. "His political courage and tactical cunning are worth noting throughout the day."

Such instructions, says former CBS news anchor Walter Cronkite in the documentary, are highly irregular. "I've never heard of any other network or any other legitimate news organization doing that."

Fox, he says, has completely "eliminated journalism," a sentiment echoed by several media analysts and former Fox employees featured in the documentary.
_____________________________________________
Synopsis: Fox News is spoon fed right wing propiganda devoid of integrity and content.

Is that it? Some guys has a negative opinion on them and an unknown number of people have misconceptions about Iraq?

 

[Lil' Timmy]

this is omega base requesting intel on machine-gun camels.
tango delta niner.

 

[f|uke]

Is that it? Some guys has a negative opinion on them and an unknown number of people have misconceptions about Iraq?

Do you know who Walter Cronkite is? His nickname is "The Most Trusted Man In America". He covered WWII from the front lines. This man is a hero.

And the percentages of misconceptions is not unknown:

Two-thirds of Fox viewers, for example, wrongly believed that a link between Iraq and al-Qaida had been found, while only 16 percent of PBS/NPR viewers and listeners and 40 percent of print-media readers shared the same misperception.

In addition, 33 percent of Fox viewers believed that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, in contrast with 11 percent of PBS/NPR viewers and 19 percent of ABC News viewers.

Amazing how Fox viewers could be so confused.

 

[dart321]

You're wrong. I'm a liberal and I don't like to watch news that is partisan to my point of view. I like objective news that reports the facts and allows the viewers to make of it what they wish.

But you still don't agree with those opposing points of view do you?

FOX News is nothing but a giant propaganda machine that feeds the ignorant masses of this country.

Says the liberal.

How the f**k are you supposed to have an informed opinion if you only ever listen to one side of the issue?

Is this directed personally toward me? I watch all the news organizations.

I'm not going to defend other news organizations like CNN, CBS, etc. I don't watch those either, but not because they're too liberal or conservative.

?! What the hell:

How the f**k are you supposed to have an informed opinion if you only ever listen to one side of the issue?

The liberal media died a long time ago

It did? I missed the memo.

Now it's just a bunch of shows with two groups of people with simplistic opposing views yelling at each other. It's a reality show with a lower level of degradation and humiliation, and a higher level of bullshit.

Can't disagree with you there. That doesn't mean that the networks are not liberal/conservative though.

 

[Neutrino]

Hmmm, and what evidence do you base this liberal media accusation on?

Here's some articles on it:

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=60&aid=26270
http://www.fair.org/reports/journalist-survey.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect
http://info.wlu.ca/~wwwpress/jrls/cjc/BackIssues/21.4/karlberg.html
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/talkbias.htm

 

[dart321]

And the percentages of misconceptions is not unknown:
Amazing how Fox viewers could be so confused.

Before I make an argument. Where did you find these statistics?

 

[Bad^Hat]

Dart's rebuttal in not so many words: Yeah, so?

 

[dart321]

Yeah, so?

 

[f|uke]

Before I make an argument. Where did you find these statistics?

My sources were fully cited. But seeing as you missed it, the numbers came from a winter 2003-04 poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes of the University of Maryland, and were reported in The Washington Times.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

My sources were fully cited. But seeing as you missed it, the numbers came from a winter 2003-04 poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes of the University of Maryland, and were reported in The Washington Times.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

and other times it's soft like marshmellow babies..

 

[smwScott]

But you still don't agree with those opposing points of view do you?

No I don't, if it is an opposing view then by very definition I disagree with it.

Says the liberal.

Nice rebuttal, I love how you were able to form a cohesive point there. I am a liberal ... and I have an opinion ... and I said it. Your point? Either argue the point or go away, none of this half-assed bullshit.

Is this directed personally toward me? I watch all the news organizations.

Not entirely towards you, just my opinion on the people who only watch a liberal or conservative station.

?! What the hell:

What the hell, seriously what the hell is your point? I said I don't watch most of the other forms of mainstream media either because they are slanted in one direction or another, or just plain stupid. That's the hell.

It did? I missed the memo.

You got the memo, but like every other conservative you're attempting to make yourself the victim of the now defunct liberal media. There is no station that comes close to the bias that is FOX News.

 

[dart321]

You're completely right everyone. There is no such thing as the liberal media. What was I thinking?! Now Fox, god forbid! I mean, they voice they're opinion and its not what I like to hear so they're crap.

I never said that I liked Fox. I just don't see how they are any less sleazy/corrupt than all the other news organizations. They have a political position that they voice like everyone else, sadly.

And f|uke, when you posted this:

Two-thirds of Fox viewers, for example, wrongly believed that a link between Iraq and al-Qaida had been found, while only 16 percent of PBS/NPR viewers and listeners and 40 percent of print-media readers shared the same misperception.

In addition, 33 percent of Fox viewers believed that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, in contrast with 11 percent of PBS/NPR viewers and 19 percent of ABC News viewers.

You did not give the source. You're information was not cited. As for the study, they do not compare Fox to all the other news outlets, they only compare Fox to news outlets that got a higher percent than them on a certain issue. I'm sure there were other issues that ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS viewers thought to be true that wasn't while Fox viewers thought otherwise. That excerpt of course does not show that, only the faults of Fox.

 

[f|uke]

And f|uke, when you posted this: You did not give the source. You're information was not cited.

That post was a responce to FoxTrot's rebuttal to the ORIGINAL post where all information was cited. Try going back a bit farther in the thread. The numbers speak for themselves, but I know you'll never cede the point.

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

 

[Foxtrot]

MSNBC isn't in any of those stats, and that is what I usually watch.

 

[dart321]

That post was a responce to FoxTrot's rebuttal to the ORIGINAL post where all information was cited. The numbers speak for themselves, but I know you'll never cede the point.

I'm well aware of that, yet you did not directly give the source of you're information nor did you give any indication that it was in response to the original post. It must be assumed. Then, you tell me that you did give you're source of information in an earlier post.

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

Exactly my point this whole damn time. See my first ****ing post in this thread.

 

[CptStern]

You're completely right everyone. There is no such thing as the liberal media. What was I thinking?! Now Fox, god forbid! I mean, they voice they're opinion and its not what I like to hear so they're crap.

news sources are supposed to report news not opinion

 

[f|uke]

I'm well aware of that, yet you did not directly give the source of you're information nor did you give any indication that it was in response to the original post. It must be assumed. Then, you tell me that you did give you're source of information in an earlier post.

How about the fact that I quoted Foxtrot, and he quoted the original post. There was a clear trail back that anybody could have followed. The sources were there. I dont know why you think this is any kind of point of contention when its just a product of your lack of observation.

Exactly my point this whole damn time.

o/` A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

 

[dart321]

news sources are supposed to report news not opinion

Yes. I know:

They have a political position that they voice like everyone else, sadly.

They're not the only ones. Sadly.

 

[CptStern]

Yes. I know:

They're not the only ones. Sadly.

I agree ..oddly enough ...the washington post and the new york times both recently apologized for slanting their coverage of saddam's supposed wmd ..fox just does it far more openly

 

[dart321]

How about the fact that I quoted Foxtrot, and he quoted the original post. There was a clear trail back that anybody could have followed. The sources were there. I dont know why you think this is any kind of point of contention when its just a product of your lack of observation.o/` A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

My lack of observation?

Anyway, you are right on one thing: this is besides the point we're arguing here.

 

[f|uke]

fox just does it far more openly

And fiercly, and unapologetically.

My lack of observation?

You couldnt follow the quote trail two posts back to the source of that discussion. (I take that back... one post back, as it was quoted in full by Foxtrot)

 

[dart321]

fox just does it far more openly

I don't disagree with that one bit.

 

[dart321]

You couldnt follow the quote trail two posts back to the source of that discussion.

No, no. This is not about if we can follow the trail back or not. I can. This is about you saying that you cited you're information. On that last excerpt, you did not. This however, does not contribute anything to my argument, nor yours so lets drop it.

 

[Mattigus]

Maybe he's actually the less partisan of them all :|

He seems pretty partisan agaist Bush.

Not like he prefers Bush, I think it's easier to make fun of Bush.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Dart: Grr, your view on current issues is wrong, despite the fact I agree with it whole heartedly.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Jon Stewart for president!

 

[dart321]

Dart: Grr, your view on current issues is wrong, despite the fact I agree with it whole heartedly.

I agreed with one point. Are you trying to start a flame war?

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

I agreed with one point. Are you trying to start a flame war?

oMGogomGM gFLAME WAR HAX!!! :angel:

 

[Bad^Hat]

Nah I'm just ****ing wit ya :E