Keep your jesus off my penis

[Lil' Timmy]

lol who was "forcing [their] 'anti-belief's' on [you]" raziaar?

as for your quote.. yeah, the fallacy of "pascal's wager" is always good for a laugh. so it's down to weighing the odds for you now huh? hmm, i don't think i'd be interested in such a capricious god besides, to play that game right, wouldn't you want to find out which religion has the worst hell and believe in that one (maybe it's christianity, i dunno)?

 

[Raziaar]

lol who was "forcing [their] 'anti-belief's' on [you]" raziaar?

well, okay maybe forcing isn't the proper word... but I don't see alot of religious people on these boards saying how you suck because you don't believe in a god. However... there are tons of people saying others are misguided and idiots because they DO believe in a god.

Anyways... i'm moving back to the sidelines.

 

[Sai]

hmm...i'm dissapointed i wanted more people argueing on religion :cheers:

i love arguements, well they may lead a thread into flaimes, but they're still fun to see different views

 

[Lil' Timmy]

hmm...i'm dissapointed i wanted more people argueing on religion :cheers:

i love arguements, well they may lead a thread into flaimes, but they're still fun to see different views

well, unfortunately there isn't much to argue for people who have been on the forum very long. all religion vs. whatever arguements boil down to someone trying to prove the existence/significance of a god. that always becomes an arguement of one persons experience versus anothers, so that's pretty much the end of it right there. smart religious people will fall back on something untestable like 'revealation' or 'visions', so these "arguements" contain no real arguement in the first place. :|

 

[h4vvok]

I think it best never to worship a religion (my opinion), being an atheist has the benefits such as:
1. I take the best part of the cake while you give thanks
2. I eat whatever and whenever without fear of "sin"
3. Understanding human origin is much simpler, I evolved from a blob of crap over time
4. I don't worry about death, because I know everyone is the same and when they die the same thing happens, existence ceases for them.
5. I don't accept any religion as my own because some people will try to use that against you (example: some slurs going on about Muslims in some parts of the world)

I really can't think of any other ridiculous or senseless reasons right now, about to have a threesome..gin, and tonic await me.
Oh, and everyone has a right to choose how the live and if they decide to choose a form of worship more power to em, especially if it gives them purpose in life and happiness

 

[Lil' Timmy]

h4vvok, you forgot:

6. i can kill others with moral impunity!!

 

[crabcakes66]

Yea too bad our country was founded on christian beliefes... I wish it stayed that way.

To bad our country was founded on everyones beliefs........

 

[Raziaar]

Wait i'm curious... are you saying, that it is a shame that our country was found on christian beliefs when you say "Shame our country was found on everyones beliefs", or are you saying that it wasn't... but rather founded on 'everyone's beliefs. You'd be wrong if the latter.

 

[DreamThrall]

I've heard that "Our country was founded on Christian beliefs" argument before, and it is rediculous. Let's ask Captain Obvious why our country was founded on "Christian beliefs" :

Excuse me Captain, why was our country founded on Christian beliefs?

Why, because everyone who founded our country was Christian!

And... what about now, is the entire populace of the fair Unites States of America still Christian?

No, not anymore!

Thanks, Captain! ::salute!::

You see, using the argument "Our country was founded on Christian beliefs" as justification for including Christian theology in our country's laws is just as rediculous as following the Bible to the word (ie, ritualistically slaughtering animals, etc...). Not everyone believes in God, or if they do, takes Jesus Christ as their savior or whatever you call it. Not everyone believes Jesus Christ was resurrected.

Oh yeah, we have that whole separation of church and state thing too...

 

[CrazyHarij]

Good lad, that Captain Obvious guy.

 

[Dedalus]

he deserves a promotion don't you think? General maybe?

 

[not28]

i still say there's a difference between believing in god and subscribing yourself to an organized religion. i deal with the former but not the latter.

 

[CptStern]

i still say there's a difference between believing in god and subscribing yourself to an organized religion. i deal with the former but not the latter.

you're agnostic

 

[Deadline]

i still say there's a difference between believing in god and subscribing yourself to an organized religion. i deal with the former but not the latter.

I agree with you there, but all Christian organized religions believe in "God" but the diffrence between them is the other beliefs you have also, mainly of how you want to take The Bible. Truth or Fiction... and if its Fiction, it and Christianity are the worlds largest and most well thought out frauds EVER.

 

[Sui]

what... the... FREAKING hell was that?

 

[ComradeBadger]

I'm.. an atheist, and I must say, there is a fair lot of mud-slinging coming from our side :/

 

[not28]

you're agnostic

but i don't resign myself to the belief that it is impossible to tell whether God exists or not. i believe that god exists so i don't consider myself an agnostic.

 

[crabcakes66]

You'd be wrong if the latter.

Id have to answer yes to both of those.

 

[LittleB]

That movie was stupid. Stupid stupid stupid

 

[evil^milk]

well, unfortunately there isn't much to argue for people who have been on the forum very long. all religion vs. whatever arguements boil down to someone trying to prove the existence/significance of a god. that always becomes an arguement of one persons experience versus anothers, so that's pretty much the end of it right there. smart religious people will fall back on something untestable like 'revealation' or 'visions', so these "arguements" contain no real arguement in the first place. :|

edit: It's best to keep stuff to yourself, especially if the subject you talk about is one that you don't know shit about

 

[Prince of China]

Don't religious threads usually get closed by mods?
I mean, people start bashing other people's religion...but this is interesting.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

edit: It's best to keep stuff to yourself, especially if the subject you talk about is one that you don't know shit about

lol.. nicely designed sentance there milk.. anyway, it's OT, but i can assure you, i know a great deal about those kinds of arguements :thumbs:

technically, this is not a "religious" thread tredoslop, it's a multimedia thread

 

[PvtRyan]

Hehe, nice movie. And he's got a point, political decisions based on religion always suck. I'm not judging religion here, but it shouldn't be involved with politics no matter what. It's medieval and no better than the 'fundamentalist regimes' you're fighting.

 

[Javert]

That movie was stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.

What a stimulating post...It seems that the "movie" (music video? eh?) isn't the only thing "stupid stupid stupid" around here.

My two cents about the whole ideal (beyond the music video): Politics and Religion ideally shouldn't mix, nor should they be encouraged to be mixed.
Our government is based less on religious beliefs than on the Classic government of the Ancient Greeks and Romans: A representative Democracy and Republic with a dose of anti-monarchy/absolutism (which IS based on religious beliefs, historically also leading to their very downfall.)

 

[CrazyHarij]

What a stimulating post...It seems that the "movie" (music video? eh?) isn't the only thing "stupid stupid stupid" around here.

My two cents about the whole ideal (beyond the music video): Politics and Religion ideally shouldn't mix, nor should they be encouraged to be mixed.

An utopia is the other way around. But it doesn't really work, check out communism.

 

[Javert]

An utopia is the other way around. But it doesn't really work, check out communism.

Check my post again, it timed out and only posted a partial reply. The complete post is up now.
Elaborate on your statement. An utopia is the other way around as opposed to what?

 

[Lil' Timmy]

An utopia is the other way around. But it doesn't really work, check out communism.

just because i'm in the mood.. here's a quick english lesson for you harij, the choice of "a" or "an" as your indefinite article is based on the sound of the modified noun, not the spelling. utopia is pronounced with a 'y' sound (yoo-tow-pee-uh), like many u-words, so you would use an "a" with it

a utopia
a universe
an umbrella
a marsupial
a machine
an m&m
:dork:

 

[Raziaar]

i still say there's a difference between believing in god and subscribing yourself to an organized religion. i deal with the former but not the latter.

Well... I believe in my god, I worship my god, but I do so with myself and my god. I don't need others of my religion to be my religion, it's between me and god. You do have a point there... there are alot of people out there in the world who consider themself 'non practicing christians' or other religions... and I am confused as to what that would be. You're aligning yourself with that religion, yet... you don't practice it? How does that even make you religious then? lol. Puzzles me.

My faith is between me and my god, and that's my religion. It just so happens to be called Christianity :-P

 

[CrazyHarij]

just because i'm in the mood.. here's a quick english lesson for you harij, the choice of "a" or "an" as your indefinite article is based on the sound of the modified noun, not the spelling. utopia is pronounced with a 'y' sound (yoo-tow-pee-uh), like many u-words, so you would use an "a" with it

a utopia
a universe
an umbrella
a marsupial
a machine
an m&m
:dork:

Wee, thanks alot :thumbs: , I've been kinda unsure about the top two words to be honest.

 

[mchammer75040]

Raziaar allow me to add to your sig: if you subscribe to the wrong god than you lose everything as well. Happy hunting :naughty:.

 

[Raziaar]

I put that sig up simply to piss off some religion bashing athiests.

 

[not28]

Well... I believe in my god, I worship my god, but I do so with myself and my god. I don't need others of my religion to be my religion, it's between me and god. You do have a point there... there are alot of people out there in the world who consider themself 'non practicing christians' or other religions... and I am confused as to what that would be. You're aligning yourself with that religion, yet... you don't practice it? How does that even make you religious then? lol. Puzzles me.

My faith is between me and my god, and that's my religion. It just so happens to be called Christianity :-P

yup, i think we're on the same level. i guess i'm a christian; i mean, i'm definitely not jewish or muslim or hindu. and i do occasionally go to church but it's only to a) be bored to death, or b) get bitched out by an angry priest. i figure, what's the point of submitting to a religion that is so fickle and (stealing lil timmy's word here) capricious? i've been reading dante's inferno for an AP literature class, and i'll tell ya: if Hell is anything like dante's version, then we're all damned because nobody is spiritually perfect. so why bother trying to be perfect? be yourself. i'm sure God understands; after all, He knows everything.