Korean Children's Artwork About Japan

[RakuraiTenjin]

http://www.genmay.com/showthread.php?t=546593

Man some of those are pretty rough, hehe.

 

[ZeeM]

you visit Gen[M]ay :hmph:


fakeedit: me too
fakeedit2: and I`m ashamed of it

 

[JellyWorld]

That's what nationalistic propoganda does for ya.

Seriously, you really have to wonder whom these kids are being influenced by. They'll end up growing up to hate Japan just because that was what they were taught when they were kids.

 

[Raziaar]

Lotta children from other countries view america in the same way.

Its disgusting.

 

[Pesmerga]

You know the best way to make a Korean a life long enemy? Call him a jap. It's like, iono, there's really nothing like that in America, the closest thing would probably be a terrorist or jew. But then again, we don't actually hate jews like Koreans hate Japanese :|

 

[Raziaar]

You know the best way to make a Korean a life long enemy? Call him a jap. It's like, iono, there's really nothing like that in America, the closest thing would probably be a terrorist or jew. But then again, we don't actually hate jews like Koreans hate Japanese :|

I have nothing against Jewish people. I respect and admire them just as much as the next culture.

 

[Pesmerga]

I have nothing against Jewish people. I respect and admire them just as much as the next culture.

Yeah I know, I'm just saying Americans (highschool teenagers mostly) use jewish as a derogative term. I'm just trying to clarify the hate Koreans have for japanese, it's not a joke or anything over there, it's really disgusting.

 

[OCybrManO]

Jews? If Americans hate anyone irrationally... it's the French.

 

[Pesmerga]

Jews? If Americans hate anyone irrationally... it's the French.

Irrationally??? Well I guess it's a bit unfair, but we don't actually HATE them like the Koreans hate the Japanese.

I just think the French are a bit too confident in their own...militaristic status, and that leads to a lot of problems when they say they can protect a shipment of armorments we send em, yet they get attacked and stolen. It happened, WW2 I think, unfortunately I can't find any sources atm.

 

[kirovman]

On the other hand the Japanese don't learn the full scope of their history, they learn of the glorious empire days. Is that not also propaganda?

So all around Asia people hate them, it's not only Korea, it's also China, Malaysia, Indonesia. So with such diverse countries hating them, it's unlikely to be a single hidden agenda or conspiracy. It's a mutual feeling of lost respect etc.

Suppose Germany didn't bother repenting and apologising for the gasing of the Jews. Or giving compensations to their victims. We'd hate them too, now I guess.
Or if the Chancellor visited the "Hitler Shrine" every other weekend.

Anyway I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying I can understand where it's coming from. And it's not down to the nation's people, it's down to their governments to set things straight.

 

[OCybrManO]

lol... he's part Canadian, eh?

 

[SimonomiS]

This generation will teach the next generation to hate as well I guess. Never-ending circle of hate.

I'd say the UK hates the French more.

(Nazi's! Fight them? Nah, Run!)

 

[bliink]

Jews? If Americans hate anyone irrationally... it's the French.

Jeez you can say that again, America (as a whole) has no understanding of French (or most of europe's) culture.

 

[Jintor]

It's a superpower. It has no need to understand anything beyond basic --> complex weapons useage.

 

[Tr0n]

...and we have freedom fries!!!! lawlz!

 

[StardogChampion]

How old are these children supposed to be? If they were under 10 the drawings would be 100x worse than that.

 

[Gray Fox]

I assume these are from North Koreans.

 

[Raziaar]

Jeez you can say that again, America (as a whole) has no understanding of French (or most of europe's) culture.

I think its because the french kind of sucked at that war. You know... all of them.

Heh heh. Kidding. French are alright, I guess, but the ones that make their names known, seem to be arrogant, rude, disrespectful, snide, snobbish, and many more words.

 

[CptStern]

jeez some of you guys are just plain ol crazy ..or just ignorant

japan occupied korea for 32 years and brutalized the civilian populace ..they have every right to be pissed off ...there are still generations of people who remember the brutality at the hands of the japanese

 

[Raziaar]

jeez some of you guys are just plain ol crazy ..or just ignorant

japan occupied korea for 32 years and brutalized the civilian populace ..they have every right to be pissed off ...there are still generations of people who remember the brutality at the hands of the japanese

So I guess in your mind, we should still speak out against those filthy germans. Damn those scum! They killed millions of Jews, gays, etc, and will never change! Even their babies and their babies babies should be treated the same way!

<rolls his eyes>


Oh, and if you couldn't tell... that was Sarcasm.

 

[CptStern]

So I guess in your mind, we should still speak out against those filthy germans. Damn those scum! They killed millions of Jews, gays, etc, and will never change! Even their babies and their babies babies should be treated the same way!

<rolls his eyes>


Oh, and if you couldn't tell... that was Sarcasm.

wtf? should everybody just do as they please and rape and pillage anyone they want without any reprecussions? maybe we should rip down Picasso's painting "Guernica" from the UN because it depicts the killing of civilians in spain over 50 years ago? or maybe we should just tear down the vietnam memorial because who wants to spend time remembering people who were killed over 30 years ago?

 

[mortiz]

This generation will teach the next generation to hate as well I guess. Never-ending circle of hate.

I'd say the UK hates the French more.

(Nazi's! Fight them? Nah, Run!)

Yeah, it's completely mutual I can assure you!

For instance take the E.U. debate recently. The constitution fails in France so what does the French government do? Instead of confronting the issue of where that leaves the E.U. they go after Britain and it's rebate! Never mind the fact that even though French (a supposedly heavy E.U. contributor) have a similar population to the U.K. they pay in far less than Britain. Without the rebate we'd be paying in more than triple that of the French.

 

[kirovman]

So I guess in your mind, we should still speak out against those filthy germans. Damn those scum! They killed millions of Jews, gays, etc, and will never change! Even their babies and their babies babies should be treated the same way!

<rolls his eyes>


Oh, and if you couldn't tell... that was Sarcasm.

Did you read my post? They didn't apologise and refuse to compensate their victims. And still glorify the days of the military empire. If the Germans glorified Hitler and the Nazis in that way, there'd be outrage in Europe and the states.

 

[Yuri]

Did you read my post? They didn't apologise and refuse to compensate their victims. And still glorify the days of the military empire. If the Germans glorified Hitler and the Nazis in that way, there'd be outrage in Europe and the states.

And "they" is an entire country of people, right? Every single citizen thinks that way? No, they don't, sorry. People need to figure out the huge difference between a country's government and a country's citizens.

And that forum was really awful, who the hell goes there? Some of that stuff they were saying was ridiculous.

 

[kirovman]

And "they" is an entire country of people, right? Every single citizen thinks that way? No, they don't, sorry. People need to figure out the huge difference between a country's government and a country's citizens.

And that forum was really awful, who the hell goes there? Some of that stuff they were saying was ridiculous.

I wasn't saying they're right, I was just explaining where it's coming from. I welcome anyone to go to Korea and tell then they are wrong. Or another Asia-Pacific country. And I have been told a lot of Japanese are oblivious to their history when they go to these countries as tourists. And there is a lot of anti-other asian country sentiment in Japan. So it's not all one way traffic.

The relationship is much more complex than I could hope to explain here.

 

[Raziaar]

wtf? should everybody just do as they please and rape and pillage anyone they want without any reprecussions? maybe we should rip down Picasso's painting "Guernica" from the UN because it depicts the killing of civilians in spain over 50 years ago? or maybe we should just tear down the vietnam memorial because who wants to spend time remembering people who were killed over 30 years ago?

Without any repercussion? I'm one all for repercussion. The country should be the one to pay, not the citizens. The hatred that these Koreans have for the average japanese citizen, for the children... etc, is just awful. They would murder them if they had the chance. Its one thing to depise a country for its history. But the citizens? Innocent people who had nothing to do with the events of the past? Thats like accusing white people of racism because your ancestors engaged in it. Despicable act, but you had nothing to do with it, and could not influence events of the past to change it...

And to brainwash these children, so that they will never trust anybody from Japan, no matter how nice and deserving of that trust some people are? Sad.

 

[Recoil]

Jeez you can say that again, America (as a whole) has no understanding of French (or most of europe's) culture.

Says someone from the UK? I thought you were enemies to the death, too!

...well, I suppose we and France would also be... :hmph:

Ok, BTT:

Japan's hated in Asia, read your history: With Japan investing huge in Korea why do Koreans hate the japanese?
A little something called japanese imperialism of the past 100 years!

 

[CptStern]

Without any repercussion? I'm one all for repercussion. The country should be the one to pay, not the citizens. The hatred that these Koreans have for the average japanese citizen, for the children... etc, is just awful. They would murder them if they had the chance. Its one thing to depise a country for its history. But the citizens? Innocent people who had nothing to do with the events of the past? Thats like accusing white people of racism because your ancestors engaged in it. Despicable act, but you had nothing to do with it, and could not influence events of the past to change it...

And to brainwash these children, so that they will never trust anybody from Japan, no matter how nice and deserving of that trust some people are? Sad.

please, no less than how muslims/minorities/homosexuals/liberals are viewed in your country

 

[Yuri]

please, no less than how muslims/minorities/homosexuals/liberals are viewed in your country

Actually, it isn't Stern. Not at all. Please refrain from making useless assumptions about my entire country in every one of your posts. Perhaps parts of it are, but not the part that I live in.

 

[CptStern]

Actually, it isn't Stern. Not at all. Please refrain from making useless assumptions about my entire country in every one of your posts. Perhaps parts of it are, but not the part that I live in.

fair enough but in my defense the people who allow the religious right to persecute muslims/minorities/homosexuals/liberals etc are just as guilty because of their silence and unwillingness to stand up for what's right

 

[Tr0n]

No...we just don't give a damn.

That's why...I have other things to worry about.

 

[beraiviodk]

Eh? These drawings are from S Korea children? Mmmmm... my country is getting a bit desparate. I don't hate japanese at all. But maybe I would have if I lived there. Koreans are currently pissed right now because Japan is claiming a little Island called dok-do as their own, when it really belongs to Korea (for generations). Those drawings show nothing more than that.

 

[Yuri]

fair enough but in my defense the people who allow the religious right to persecute muslims/minorities/homosexuals/liberals etc are just as guilty because of their silence and unwillingness to stand up for what's right

Who is allowing what? I'm not allowing anything of the sort.

And why do you keep putting "liberals" next to things like "minorities?" You are ridiculous, Stern.

 

[ktimekiller]

Haha Korean power bitches! we are going to take over the world!!! err.. ehem, that is wrong

 

[OCybrManO]

Who is allowing what? I'm not allowing anything of the sort.

And why do you keep putting "liberals" next to things like "minorities?" You are ridiculous, Stern.

Well, literally speaking, the term "minority" fits the current state of the liberals' influence (in terms of the number and types of offices held) in the US government.

 

[Javes]

Jeez you can say that again, America (as a whole) has no understanding of French (or most of europe's) culture.

But...Americans ARE mostly European...

Gots to love you guys tho... with your brilliant subway saandwiches...mmmm:naughty:

 

[Laivasse]

On the other hand the Japanese don't learn the full scope of their history, they learn of the glorious empire days. Is that not also propaganda?

So all around Asia people hate them, it's not only Korea, it's also China, Malaysia, Indonesia. So with such diverse countries hating them, it's unlikely to be a single hidden agenda or conspiracy. It's a mutual feeling of lost respect etc.

Suppose Germany didn't bother repenting and apologising for the gasing of the Jews. Or giving compensations to their victims. We'd hate them too, now I guess.
Or if the Chancellor visited the "Hitler Shrine" every other weekend.

Anyway I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying I can understand where it's coming from. And it's not down to the nation's people, it's down to their governments to set things straight.

Absolutely right. Anyone surprised by these pictures needs to read up the history between Japan and other Asian countries - and not from any Japanese sources either.

It's a different situation to Germany after WW2. Germany received massive censure and were blowtorched by the international community for what happened in the Holocaust. As a result, Germany (*including* German citizens) learned to accept and atone for their country's responsibility in a way that Japan never has for its own crimes.

This is in part due to the trials in Tokyo that were conducted by the Allies (with Macarthur and the US in the commanding role) at around the same time as the Nuremberg trials. The US wanted Japan to act as a kind of barrier against Communism in Asia and thought that if they indicted the Emperor it would weaken the country or lead to rioting in the streets or something. Therefore, the emperor - commander-in-chief of the army and far more than just a figurehead at the time - mysteriously escaped all prosecution, and the general message of the trial was that Japan had been led into war by a small group of war-mongering militarists who didn't represent the country as a whole (not the case at all).

It's because of this that for a long time the only thing Japan felt it had done wrong was lose the war. Even now, with Japan's growing awareness of its true past, the Prime Minister still pays visits to a shrine to venerate convicted war criminals. There was also that recent history textbook which brushed over the rape of Nanking and sparked off those riots in China.

Think of how we in the west come down like a ton of bricks on Holocaust "revisionists" (ie. those who argue about the facts or that it happened at all), and you'll get an idea of how Korea, China, the Philippines, etc. feel towards Japan.

As for people huffing and puffing saying that Koreans would probably "kill a Japanese person if they saw one", please...get a clue. There are tons of Korean people living happily in Japan.

 

[LittleB]

Looks like it's about time to move this thread to the politics section....

 

[JellyWorld]

There's a Korean CS server titled DOKDO IS THE LAND OF KOREA it's really funny, I've played in there before.

 

[Gray Fox]

Absolutely right. Anyone surprised by these pictures needs to read up the history between Japan and other Asian countries - and not from any Japanese sources either.

It's a different situation to Germany after WW2. Germany received massive censure and were blowtorched by the international community for what happened in the Holocaust. As a result, Germany (*including* German citizens) learned to accept and atone for their country's responsibility in a way that Japan never has for its own crimes.

This is in part due to the trials in Tokyo that were conducted by the Allies (with Macarthur and the US in the commanding role) at around the same time as the Nuremberg trials. The US wanted Japan to act as a kind of barrier against Communism in Asia and thought that if they indicted the Emperor it would weaken the country or lead to rioting in the streets or something. Therefore, the emperor - commander-in-chief of the army and far more than just a figurehead at the time - mysteriously escaped all prosecution, and the general message of the trial was that Japan had been led into war by a small group of war-mongering militarists who didn't represent the country as a whole (not the case at all).

It's because of this that for a long time the only thing Japan felt it had done wrong was lose the war. Even now, with Japan's growing awareness of its true past, the Prime Minister still pays visits to a shrine to venerate convicted war criminals. There was also that recent history textbook which brushed over the rape of Nanking and sparked off those riots in China.

Think of how we in the west come down like a ton of bricks on Holocaust "revisionists" (ie. those who argue about the facts or that it happened at all), and you'll get an idea of how Korea, China, the Philippines, etc. feel towards Japan.

As for people huffing and puffing saying that Koreans would probably "kill a Japanese person if they saw one", please...get a clue. There are tons of Korean people living happily in Japan.

the rest is right, but how do you know that. I mean it was ruled by an emperor and not a democratic leader who represented the majority.