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So we get a lot of pseudo-deep threads on here (political shit, usually), and funny threads.
But what about the really important stuff?

What's your life philosophy? And what experiences in life led you to that point?

And before anyone asks, no I'm not stoned :p. It's just that since my accident I've had a lot of time on my hands to sit and think about things, and reflect on my life. Usually I'm more of a doing person.


Personally, I think that life is sad, tragic, unfair and brutal. But I'm also at peace with that. Nature, after all, is far more brutal than the relatively sheltered existence of even the poorest human beings. The wild is sickening and horrifying by our standards.
A sort of mini-revelation I came to through reading a lot of science fiction, something that just kinda struck me, is that we're still really primitive as a species. We share most of our basic motivations and behaviours with animals - we fight and kill over food, territory, women. We waste our time squabbling over pointless things. We strive for status, dominance, power...
And no matter how good the illusion of civilisation is, really we're just one small disaster (say, noone gets paid for a couple of weeks) away from reverting to wild savages again.
But simultaneously I realised that that's OK - we have the potential to become something much greater in future, enlightened and brilliant. We haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what we can achieve, which is really what I think society is all about - evolution.
I accept that we're primitive, that the world is shit, that people suck and life is hard. In fact it's kind of liberating in a way, as it allows you to see the world as a sea of opportunity where you can have whatever you want if only you put your mind to it, focus on the things you can change and ignore the things you can't.
I'm not afraid to die anymore. I'm not afraid of pain and suffering anymore. I just want to live the best damn life that I can, and do the best things that I can for the people that matter. To be completely loyal to people who have earned that treatment and not to waste time on people who don't deserve it. This is freedom; to embrace life with all its flaws instead of running away from it.
At the same time, I love to be captivated by visions of a wonderful future for humanity. I believe that, some day, it will be within our grasp.
 
When life gives you shit, make shit-ade.

But seriously, don't make shit-ade otherwise.
 
When life gives you lemons, make orange juice and beat your children for not eating their vegetables because they are fat ****s.
 
I go the Papa Roach way- It's in our nature to destroy ourselves. ?t's in our nature to kill ourselves. It's in our nature to kill each other. It's in our nature to kill, kill, kill.
 
Don't worry. Be happy



If I am not happy with a situation, I should change the situation, or I should change my attitude to accept the situation. Usually the later is easier than the former. What I don't do is worry about inconsequential shit, and in the end most of life is inconsequential. Complaining doesn't help, and most "problems" in life aren't really problems at all, you just need to readjust your outlook.
 
Live life now, do not be concerned with what exists, or does not exist after death.

Other than that, help your fellow humans, spread love and avoid hate. Seems like hippy bullshit to some, but people who can actually follow that are happy and well rounded people.

I don't think people help their fellow humans enough to be honest, they figure if it does not involve self-gratification, it must not be important. I think people need to losen up on some of the "logical" reasons to help others and instead just do it for the sake of helping. Do good for the sake of good.
(within some reason of course)

And of course, the golden rule is key. Generally, "treat others as you would like to be treated"
 
Interesting thread.

I like to think within the past year or two i have formed myself as a person, i have had crazy phases as a younger person but i am seeing stability and a feeling of wholeness in my life.

I've had a wide range of views and experiences in the past along with varying psychological states, a period of severe illness (adrenal fatigue) and a year of harsh unemployed living and many other experiences that have formed me into a solid person, made me realise what i want out of life and also opened my eyes in many respects.

I used to have a somewhat low self esteem in school etc, i blew this over with an image of a massive ego which developed into a genuine massive ego but i've mellowed somewhat since.

My philopshy of life is that whilst our existence has no 'meaning' we should still have our own meaning to life and aim to develop ourselves as a species as well as individuals, i used to be an antisocial, selfish type but now i realise that i am only in the lucky situation i am now due to the sacrifices and work of others in the past, i must repay this debt by continuing the good work.

I will look out for myself, i will look out for others, i will not stand for idiocy, wastefulness and destructive behaivours, i will not infringe on others rights, i will do my bit, i expect respect and freedom in return.

Personally i don't need much out of life, i'm not one to go off round the world, live in a flash house and drive a flash car or gain pleasure at others expense.
I used to be a materialistic sod but i've turned away from this greatly, most of the stuff people have they just don't need and gain practically nothing through owning it.

In fact i've gone for a year now and the only thing i've bought are food, a few cheap clothes and bits to keep my car going, i havn't really had anything else as it's not needed, i'm building a new computer soon but as far as value for money and multipurpose entertaiment, if theres one thing to buy, it's a computer.

I feel warm inside when i meet people with a view of respect and drive for progress for the whole of humanity, i think the world is waking up to this and our future can be bright if we keep it up.
 
V-Man's Philosophy

There is no true good or evil, there is only what we define as evil.
We use the figureheads behind these movements called "Gods" in popular culture to spearhead the idea of what is good or evil.
As the politics of the times change so do our enemies and our allies. Today's soldiers might be tomorrow's "metro cops".
However, as long as there is good, there will always be evil. There will never be a utopia in anyone's vision, for as long as there is the thought of what is good, there will be the thought of evil; there will always be the temptation.

The idea of good and evil, however, is not what makes the world go round.
That is desire; every human wants something, be it the oil in Iraq, or the annihlation of Jews, terrorists, or "infidels".
If it were not for desire, we would not have had the motivation to create the wheel; our society would not be where it is today.

But what is your purpose so far as time itself poses you as?
Three hundred years from now, will your bank account matter? Will your petty fight with your spouse matter? Will your life have been remembered in any way?
The truth is, the people who are remembered are the ones who took the risks. George Washington risked his life while fighting for independence. Munro is risking his sanity making sure we're all in line. Gabe Newell risked his pocket book and much else while making the Half Life series.
But in risks, comes the fact that you have the chance of losing something. If you lose, you probably won't be remembered; the winners write the history.
In the end, noone is remembered forever; as said, the man who invented the wheel is one of the most important people to the history of man-kind itself today.

Now, can you tell me his name?

(third person prespective title for you Xendance)
 
Oh yeah, on a more metaphysical level, I believe that the universe (finite or infinite and including any god which might rule over it or have created it) is fundamentally describable. That is really just a basic step of logic, because everything must be describable. If it is indescribable, then it doesn't exist because it has no effect on me or the universe. Any effect it did have would be discernible, measurable, describable to some extent.

Following from this, the description of the universe in it's simplest form must be arbitrary. Once you have an orthogonal (uncorrelated) fundamental data set describing the universe, there is no reason for a certain constant or fundamental law of physics or atom to exist or not exist or be the way it is. The only point of reference is my consciousness and my identity, both of which are defined by the universe which it inhabits. So judging the existence of reality from a perspective within that reality is like a measuring tape trying to measure itself. It's circular logic and the existence of one predicates the other. The only reason that the laws of nature are what they are is that if they weren't that way, I wouldn't exist to write this sentence. And the only reason I exist is because the laws of nature are they way they are. So you see, one of us is arbitrary, and thus both of us (universe and identity) are arbitrary.

If you really understand that, it makes it easier to let the little stuff in life slide.
 
In brief, my life philosophy is rooted in my understanding of reality, the universe, and the human experience, which all roughly equates to a Sartrean existentialist perspective (because he was absolutely correct... I was thrilled when I first read him because it was like reading a far more intelligent, concise explanation of my own thoughts than I could ever write). I don't have time to reply properly to this thread right now, so I'll come back to this later.

Good replies so far though, I especially liked the OP and Terminator's post.
 
when life gets you down, kick it in the balls and get up

pretty much
 
I live by the three D's

Draino
Dick
and Dollar Tree
 
At the moment, I feel existence of life and everyone is pretty pointless. I myself feel absolute no motivation to do anything in particular, or to reach out and grab a goal, if I ever find a goal to reach for. It seems utterly pointless to me atm. But I try not to make it a inconvenience to other people, and I try to make my issues, mine, not theirs.
 
Pesmerga said:
Hit it before puberty does.
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..lmfao.

Anyways, I feel like Ive formed a better idea about what I want and how to get it in the last year than ever before in my life. Over the last year I've watched the results of all the people around me who've led lives of compromise and laziness. My mother for example is sitting in prison at this moment, and my father just got out recently and is literally homeless. Both are multiple felons, and in my opinion, they got this way because they were raised without a sense of responsibility. I remember my mom sitting around all day knocked out on pills at 40, Just being around her sucked the life force out of me. The result of the resentment she sat in over the last 20 some odd years, blaming her **** ups on her father all along the way. "I cant believe he ruined our lives like this," she would say to me, not even realizing how much her drug use affected her to the point that she was a manipulative bitch.

As Ive watched all of this throughout my life I'm lucky to have stumbled across writings from bruce lee or buckminster fuller because they've saved me. Take Buckminster for example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller

Richard Buckminster ?Bucky? Fuller (July 12, 1895 ? July 1, 1983)[1] was an American architect, author, designer, futurist, inventor, poet and visionary. He was the second president of Mensa.[2]
...In 1927 at the age of 32, bankrupt and jobless, living in inferior housing in Chicago, Illinois, Fuller lost his young daughter Alexandra to complications from polio and spinal meningitis. He felt responsible, and this drove him to drink and to the verge of suicide. At the last moment he decided instead to embark on "an experiment, to find what a single individual can contribute to changing the world and benefiting all humanity."
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Or bruce lee:
"To hell with circumstance I create opportunity."

To me both of these people speak so much more about life in their on screen presence or writings than anyone Ive ever seen , because their life philosophy is all about 'what can I do to achieve total creative expression in life' . Its all about the understanding that if you want freedom, you have to take responsibility. Its about making life into a constant question mark for yourself, rather than doing what you gotta do to get by.

I've wasted time over the last year or longer "squabbling over inconsequential things", but I'm done. I'll be quiting my job soon and if I have to live on the damn streets to get what I want with my life then I'll do it. Shortly after this I'll have to write my mom to tell her my grandma might not make it out of the hospital with her mind in tact this time. It might have been a stroke or a brain infection that hit her the other day, the doctors don't know yet but imagine yourself sitting in a jail getting a letter saying you're mother doesn't even know who she is anymore. It wakes you up real quick.
 
I also live by the three B's-

Boobs
Bleach
and Beethoven
 
I live by the three R's:

Rape
Sex
Godzilla
Numby Nutkins
Tetanus
Crack Cocaine
Jaja I like the candy cane vajagas
 
I think Bill Hicks put it best when he said: "More Snickers! More Coke!"
 
My outlook on life has changed considerably over the past few years. I've since begun to understand the amount of suffering inherent in the world and ourselves. I suppose on some level thats natural, to develop a sense of earthly critique when greater responsibility becomes a factor. A major part of my "transformation" may have to do with the fact that Ive had OCD for quite some time and it has gotten progressively worse since it all began when I was about 13 years old. To be honest, I dont even know what exactly is wrong with me. Whether im bipolar or just naturally subjected to unhealthy amounts of stress, it has massively attributed to my sense of self.

Anyway, to answer the question...the world sucks. It's a party for some and a ruthless battle for the rest. The world is full of greed and it seems like nobody gives a shit about anyone but themselves. Watching the videos portraying the absurd animal cruelty is one of many examples I could give. Maybe it's because I don't understand people as much as Id like to think I do. I've always tried to imagine the world in the future as being some type of utopia, where people aren't starving on the street and hospitals put the patient ahead their insurance provider.

You might think mankind has finally reached a point where ethics and compassion supersede necessity, but we are far from that. Long story short, the world sucks, get used to it.
 
When life gets hard... fuck it, its not that bad. When lifes, good... Awesome.
 
ktimekiller said:
At the moment, I feel existence of life and everyone is pretty pointless. I myself feel absolute no motivation to do anything in particular, or to reach out and grab a goal, if I ever find a goal to reach for. It seems utterly pointless to me atm. But I try not to make it a inconvenience to other people, and I try to make my issues, mine, not theirs.
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Existence has no inherent point, but that doesn't make it pointless. It just means you can do whatever you want with it - which for most people involves making themselves happy or fulfilled or whatever, through doing things they like and surrounding themselves with things they like as well. The fact is, your existence is incredibly special, merely because of the extraordinary circumstances leading up to it - evolution spanning unimaginably vast swathes of time that have equipped you with everything you have, from eating and shitting to speaking and rational thought. Human bodies are the most precise, complex, and capable machines (because we really are just machines made of organic parts) that exist on this planet, and your possession of one is a gift (not from God or anything, you're just incredibly lucky that you exist). Just sitting around wasting away is a terrible waste of your inherent human potential to do anything you want to do. Is it so hard to figure out what makes you happy and have the balls to do whatever you have to do for it?
 
When life gets you down, you always got to remember: There is ALWAYS someone who has it way worse then you. You stub your toe? Someone just became homeless. You get a flat tire? Someone just got shot. YOU got shot? Someone just died.

Live life how you can to be happy, be nice when you can. There is nothing wrong with wanting yours sometimes, there is nothing wrong with wanting someone to get theirs sometime.
 
Ennui said:
Existence has no inherent point, but that doesn't make it pointless. It just means you can do whatever you want with it - which for most people involves making themselves happy or fulfilled or whatever, through doing things they like and surrounding themselves with things they like as well. The fact is, your existence is incredibly special, merely because of the extraordinary circumstances leading up to it - evolution spanning unimaginably vast swathes of time that have equipped you with everything you have, from eating and shitting to speaking and rational thought. Human bodies are the most precise, complex, and capable machines (because we really are just machines made of organic parts) that exist on this planet, and your possession of one is a gift (not from God or anything, you're just incredibly lucky that you exist). Just sitting around wasting away is a terrible waste of your inherent human potential to do anything you want to do. Is it so hard to figure out what makes you happy and have the balls to do whatever you have to do for it?
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Explain to me what luck has to do with my existence? Was there a lottery I wasn't aware of? What kind of odds are we talking about 5:1 that I don't exist? 500:1? 500000000:1?
 
Ennui said:
Existence has no inherent point, but that doesn't make it pointless. It just means you can do whatever you want with it - which for most people involves making themselves happy or fulfilled or whatever, through doing things they like and surrounding themselves with things they like as well. The fact is, your existence is incredibly special, merely because of the extraordinary circumstances leading up to it - evolution spanning unimaginably vast swathes of time that have equipped you with everything you have, from eating and shitting to speaking and rational thought. Human bodies are the most precise, complex, and capable machines (because we really are just machines made of organic parts) that exist on this planet, and your possession of one is a gift (not from God or anything, you're just incredibly lucky that you exist). Just sitting around wasting away is a terrible waste of your inherent human potential to do anything you want to do. Is it so hard to figure out what makes you happy and have the balls to do whatever you have to do for it?
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I've always thought this, when I feel really shitty or anything, I always think 'hey, atleast I'm alive' considering there are 6 billion+ people on the planet, it is highly improbable to even exist, considering how much space the universe takes up, there are bound to be other planets/life-forms where their populations range within the billions, but considering there aren't any close to us (from our distance scales), it really makes you think.


Oh yea, and what if sitting around wasting time makes you happy?
 
Krynn72 said:
When life gets hard... fuck it.
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Stick your dick in the dirt. **** the world!


When life gets you down, you always got to remember: There is ALWAYS someone who has it way worse then you. You stub your toe? Someone just became homeless. You get a flat tire? Someone just got shot. YOU got shot? Someone just died.
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on the other hand - You just died? Someone was born.
 
Philosophy: Life is pretty sh*t and pointless as it is, so we shouldn't go out o four way to hurt the fellow man (women, of course, are fair game :p)

The best that we can do is entertain and distract ourselves for the 70 odd years that we are forced to stay here on account of obligations to friends and family. Entertainment could be anything from watching TV to studying quantum physics, depending on the person.
 
My life philosphy?

Existence:
My life, and everyone elses', may have well been a coincidence -- in the event that this is true, I feel that it's my obligation to make life better for everyone.

God:
If a God was to actually exist in the pretexts of the Bible, Talmud, or Quran, then I believe the House of Abraham really got they're God and religion totally bassackwards. I don't believe that we are slaves to a God, nor are we to be punished, tortured, or killed by him or his most devout. He's to be something that teaches us lessons and thats there for us when we finally die.

I actually believe in a deity, but to me, it's a personal relationship and I like being that close. And I don't aim to convert anyone either. :)

Personal Philosophy:
I believe its' my own responsibility to help people along -- reinforce they're strengths, help them grow past they're weaknesses, just to see what they make of the world.
 
You've got three ways out of feeling like shit.

You change your situation somehow, so that things no longer make you feel down. Whether this be an internal change (ie changing the way you look at things or feel about things), or an external change (ie talking to somebody or fixing something), doesn't matter, option one is to change something.

You enter apathy and stop caring about things being crappy.

Or you sit there and feel bad about yourself for the rest of your life...

Option 3 is the bad option...

That, and that your life really is meaningless on a great number of levels (no, not in the emo sense, in the literal sense), so there's really no point in stressing over anything, because when you get down to it, it really doesn't ****ing matter...
 
I think that it is incredibly lucky that we exist - just think, there is a near-infinite amount of people who could exist instead of me, simply for having different genetics. I also don't think there is a purpose to life, at least not a divine, overarching one, but instead we make our own purpose, whether it is in art, buisness, science, or simply having a family and some kids, and getting old. Once we appreciate our own existances, we start realising how precious life is and should make it awesome for other people as well. Because this is it. This one, fragile, pointless life. So don't waste it.

EDIT: Oh, and pleasure.
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
I think that it is incredibly lucky that we exist - just think, there is a near-infinite amount of people who could exist instead of me, simply for having different genetics. I also don't think there is a purpose to life, at least not a divine, overarching one, but instead we make our own purpose, whether it is in art, buisness, science, or simply having a family and some kids, and getting old. Once we appreciate our own existances, we start realising how precious life is and should make it awesome for other people as well. Because this is it. This one, fragile, pointless life. So don't waste it.

EDIT: Oh, and pleasure.
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How is it lucky that you exist? How could it be any other way? If you didn't exist, the universe would have to be changed somehow to make you not exist, and then it wouldn't be the universe anymore. There is no possible way for things to have happened so that you don't exist. And if there was a different reality where you didn't exist, you would never know about it... because you don't exist in it. I tried to explain this up above.
 
Because on a massive scale, it is very lucky that the universe can support life.

On a local scale, it is lucky the Earth can support life.

And on a personal scale, if my mum had stayed with her first husband, or my dad was someone different, I wouldn't exist.
 
Show me where you can find luck in the universe. I have never heard of a physical law of luck, whereby two or more outcomes are possible from an exactly identical state. If such an occurrence were in fact possible, it would then be arbitrary which outcome was selected, the same way that the existence of reality is arbitrary as I explained already. The outcome would be part of the fundamental description of the universe and completely inexplicable. You could not assign a cause to it. And thus, it is exactly the same that you only experience a reality that supports your identity.
 
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