LOL, saw a great documentary on Satelite TV

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Well, not your ordinary documentary... but it is called Penn & Teller:Bulls...!

Yes, those magic trick guys... and they were talking in this one apparently about P.E.T.A, and how they have compared meat eaters to Nazi's and their treatment of animals and stuff while they go through the processes to become our food.

I love meat... and it was pure joy to hear Penn and Teller cursing(LOL, never thought i'd see that), and basically doing the documentary about PETA and stuff. They are on the meat eaters side, and it was hilarious, as certain scenes show them wearing Nazi type leathers and stuff and making fun of PETA.

Anyone able to dig up some more information on this? I wanna read a full article. Only searches I have tried yielded in very very small blurbs of the comparison by peta of meat eaters to Nazi's.
 
Sounds interesting, Where are you from?
 
Bullshit has been on the air for quite a long time now. :]

//edit: Bullshit the show, it sounds like I'm trashing TV the way I worded that
 
Sorry, first time I saw it. I'm from united states, why?
 
LOL this show is hilarious! I'm surprised I have never seen it before... Another one is coming on next... Safety Hysteria Education: People take advantage of personal safety concerns.


OMG: LOL, they interviewed a guy who runs saferamerica.com and one of his best selling items is a parachute. He goes on to say, "And you attach this anywhere..." And he proceeds to try to attach the thing to a metal staircase for half a minute and fails miserably.

And he tries all sorts of his other products, which ALL fail miserably apparently. HAHAHA
 
The cow farm/ slaughterhouse near where I am isn't like that.

I've had a PETA person call me very bad names before because I eat meat, very mean and vile members they have.
 
you make it sound like a cult. Anyone can join peta
 
yeah, i love meat, but obviously i don't delude myself, and i've seen those peta videos. my half-brother worked at a slaughterhouse when he was younger, so i know enough.

but penn gilette is kinda a dick (i don't know much about teller). he's a libertarian, which i think is an OK philosophy, but it's very simplistic and i doubt it would actually make for good policy in this country.

peta could serve a valuable purpose, which would be to ensure the humane slaughter of food animals. but vegans unfortunately seem to have full-sway over peta, and much of their potential action is wasted on efforts to get people to not eat meat, which is, at best, a fool's errand. i don't need a bunch of jains telling me that eating meat (which humans have done since the beginning of the species) is bad.
 
what channel is it on, raziaar?
i have digital cable, but there's still a small chance that i might have it.
 
I'm just saying what happened. Anyone who wishes I was dead and stuff because I eat livestock meat has real problems. I should've reported them for the threats.
 
PITA also apparently supports terrorism and animal killing ;-/

They found that PITA had some records showing that they paid 9000 dollars for a walk in freezer... and what could you possibly use that thing for besides storing meat slabs? With the same one I think, they used it to kill animals they they rescued. Out of like 2000 something animals they rescued, they euthanized like 1300 or so, more than 2/3rd of the animals they saved. I think thats what the connection was.

Not to mention supporting firebombers of animal research clinics, where they "Don't condemn nor condone", but say the guy "is a nice gentleman"
 
Also that they sent a letter to Yassir Arafat asking him to not use Donkeys in suicide bombings (In response to a bomb detonated from a donkey pulling it on a kart)

When they were asked if they'd give a position on the bombings themselves (neither a liberal nor conservative debate on Israel, but about the bombings/killing of humans) they said it's not their place to interject themselves in human conflicts.

Just stupid.
 
Computer5k said:
People who
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I'm going to reformat that then sig it. Now that is comedy gold. :D

My friend is a vegetarian and he made me watch those PETA slaughter videos. Slightly disturbing, but I still love my hamburgers. Yes, I think animals should be treated with some respect.

However, PETA doesn't deserve any respect. Their PR stunts are merely done for shock value and are often offensive to other people. For example, they recently did a stunt next to my university campus where they had 2 tranvestites (or something like that) wrestle in some pudding. In front of a Catholic Church. Not to cool if you ask me. There are better ways of getting your message across to people.
 
Good organization: The Humane Society

Bad: PETA.

PETA, when you read about it from a description of its ORIGINAL values, sounds like a group that looks out for animals that get abused, etc. But the fact that it's just a group that tries to harass meat eating people is stupid
 
i think we get the point. peta = bad. yay. move on.

anyway, which channel was this show on, Raz?
 
It was in my direct TV satelite channel here in Dallas texas, 318 for the SHO-E

I am DEFINATELY going to find a schedule for this show, since the second one i'm watching too is hilarious and a very interesting watch.
 
Raziaar said:
PITA also apparently supports terrorism and animal killing ;-/

They found that PITA had some records showing that they paid 9000 dollars for a walk in freezer... and what could you possibly use that thing for besides storing meat slabs? With the same one I think, they used it to kill animals they they rescued. Out of like 2000 something animals they rescued, they euthanized like 1300 or so, more than 2/3rd of the animals they saved. I think thats what the connection was.

Not to mention supporting firebombers of animal research clinics, where they "Don't condemn nor condone", but say the guy "is a nice gentleman"
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first of all PITA is a sandwich bread

Peta = People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

they dont support firebombing of clinics, they dont kill the animals they rescue unless they are beyond hope, they dont secretly have meat in their freezers ...where do you guys get this shit from anyway?
 
CptStern said:
first of all PITA is a sandwich bread

Peta = People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

they dont support firebombing of clinics, they dont kill the animals they rescue unless they are beyond hope, they dont secretly have meat in their freezers ...where do you guys get this shit from anyway?
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It's not that hard to imagine such things when they compare killing chickens to the holocaust.
 
CptStern said:
first of all PITA is a sandwich bread

Peta = People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

they dont support firebombing of clinics, they dont kill the animals they rescue unless they are beyond hope, they dont secretly have meat in their freezers ...where do you guys get this shit from anyway?
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I don't know about the meat freezer thing but the thing about them saying the firebomber was a nice guy is indeed true
 
lol....Go up to a peta member or someone thats a vegetarian....and take a big bite out of a burger in front of there face. :D
 
CptStern said:
they dont support firebombing of clinics, they dont kill the animals they rescue unless they are beyond hope, they dont secretly have meat in their freezers ...where do you guys get this shit from anyway?
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Actually on that show they talk about how members of PETA bombed clinics, the people who did it even videotapped it. Alot of those people are on trial now though.


Anyways Bullshit is a pretty good show, they make pretty good points. I really enjoyed the one on religion ;).
 
So I mispelled it... I did an I instead of an E, what's the big deal with that?

Anyways, I didn't say they stored meat, I said they bought a 9000 dollar walkin freezer that is *USED* to store meat.

They do kill quite alot of animals they save, even if it is gassing them or whatever.

PETA Kills Near Half
Of Animals It "Saves"

RICHMOND, Va. — People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals killed more than 1300 dogs and cats last year, but PETA officials say it was the only humane thing to do.

PETA president Ingrid Newkirk told the Norfolk Virginia Pilot newspaper this summer that it is a rotten business but sometimes it's the only option.

The animal rights group took in 2103 animals last year. They euthanized almost half of them.

"I don't think a dog living in a cage walking in circles for the rest of its life in a dog prison is a swell thing," Newkirk said in defending her group.

Many shelters in Virginia have adopted a no-kill philosophy. PETA has not. Newkirk dismisses such a policy as naive.

Terry Wagoner, president of the Animal Adoption and Rescue Foundation (AARF) in Richmond, Va., says a no-kill philosophy is not unattainable. AARF found homes for 1062 cats and dogs last year. It euthanized none.
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They *DO* support firebombers. The guy who firebombed that clinic was paid by peta 'supposedly as a loan', and the father of the firebomber said that it wasn't a loan... that they never had to give the money back.

"It is up to each of us to take the responsibility ourselves to stop the exploitation of fellow animals," according to the the ALF Website. PETA openly applauds the groups and has in some cases funded its legal expenses. For example, PETA gave more than $70,000 for the defense of Rodney Coronado, an ALF member convicted of a firebombing at Michigan State University. It also has provided thousands of dollars to the defense funds of other avowed ALF members.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/657264/posts


EDIT: This thread is fast becoming a PETA / Anti-Peta thread. Nooooo! :-( What have I done? :(
 
i just watched an episode of bs like thirty mins ago, it was pretty funny; they did this one experiment to prove that you have more germs on your hands than your ass

this episode's theme was how people mindlessly fear things they shouldn't
 
Yeah, I watched that one after the PETA episode... that one guy had a nasty looking, hairy arse and it had so few germs compared to another guys nose on the outside.

EDIT: Then you saw the part on the guy who sells those items like the skyscraper parachute... wasn't that hilarious to watch?
 
the dogs and cats they rescue are from puppy mills. Usually the euthanisia rate is as high as 60%. The animals are so emanciated or abused that they have no recourse but to put them down.

I really dont agree with a lot of what peta stands for, but they are a drop in a bucket. There are far more responisble organisations out there that work to introduce legislation benefiting animals

you can vilify peta all you want but at least they are working for a better cause. Even if they saved one animal from abuse/neglect/cruelty they have made a difference.
 
Yeah, but the point is... they give a rats ass about humans compared to animals :-( . I myself am an animal lover... I love cute animals, and most animals, but i'm not at the point where I want everything to never ever be harmed. I know that animals were put on this earth for us to eat, and we were put on this earth for selective animals to eat :cat: I would never compare the deaths of millions of chickens for food, to the deaths of millions of jews in the attempt of genocide. It just seems so... wrong, to make that comparison. My feeling is that peta is way too radical/dangerous.
 
PETA is not the ALF, ADL or ELF.. they are not 'dangerous' like those groups. i don't agree with much of what peta says, but don't buy into the franatical, far-right, nonsense conspiracy theories you read on places like freerepublic.com.
 
That story is not just from freerepublic, its from many. Anyways, the point is, there is factual proof and documents that Pita has supported monetarily the firebombing etc fanatical groups that are out there.

But... I just can't listen to people who think humanitie's cruelist invention is the factory farm. In a direct quote from their website.

In a moving narration, actor and activist Alec Baldwin exposes the truth behind humanity’s cruelest invention –the factory farm.
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I could think of millions of things we've invented that are far worse for the world than a factory farm :-/

The thing I just don't get is... they put animal rights over human rights any day. They'd rather see a human than an animal die.
 
i know where the article came from, but for a freeper to post it, it is automatically suspect, in my book. pEta holds as much responsibility for supporting terrorism as any other organisation (which, if you want to get technical, includes many US companies and, historically, the US government). but the groups are separate. i have no idea whether certain members of peta would rather see humans die than animals. most organisations have members with wide-ranging views.

if one believes that animals have as much right to life as humans, then certainly factory farms would be quite ghastly. personally, i hate the industrialization of food production, and i try to buy traditionally raised meats and vegetables when i can.
 
Raziaar said:
Yeah, but the point is... they give a rats ass about humans compared to animals :-( . I myself am an animal lover... I love cute animals, and most animals, but i'm not at the point where I want everything to never ever be harmed. I know that animals were put on this earth for us to eat, and we were put on this earth for selective animals to eat :cat: I would never compare the deaths of millions of chickens for food, to the deaths of millions of jews in the attempt of genocide. It just seems so... wrong, to make that comparison. My feeling is that peta is way too radical/dangerous.
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Exactly my opinion.
 
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