Magic mushrooms made illegal in Ireland today

[Nuada]

Damn this has really pissed me off. It was due to happen eventually but the way it happened was a ****ing joke. Last week a shop in court had 4 shipments confiscated by the customs, who claimed that they were illegal even though they weren't. There's never been any laws about them here and they grow naturally. The minister for justice confirmed this, then in Fat Whore Harney, the minister for health bans them saying that she'd met with the family of a boy who died recently while taking them.

The prick was jumping around on a balcony pissed and on muchies. It was stupidity killed him. Do you think if he was just pissed and fell (which happens all the time) we'd have this? Hopefully there'll be an appeal.

Such a stupid thing to do though. Acid hasn't really been seen much in about 10 years or so unless you go and look for it bub now with mushies having been available for the last year or so this will lead in a huge increase. Not that I mind 'n all but acid can be pretty harsh if you're not used to it and you just know some idiot kids are going to go nuts on it...

 

[ComradeBadger]

It's still legal to sell them undried in the UK though

 

[CptStern]

god I dont know what's more stupid ..the fact that there's always a screaming mother who's kid died in some really stupid manner yet everyone overlooks it and attempts to explain it in the most obtuse way possible or the people who lap it up:


"the gun didnt blow his head off! the fact that he stood in front of the barrel when it fired killed him, save the children from accidentily walking in front of discharging guns!! BAN STANDING!!!"

here's an idea do what so many of your fellow hl2,neters do ..buy it illegally

 

[15357]

Are you talking about illegal drugs and/or narcotics?

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I fail to recognize the problem in this..... unless its not about drugs....

 

[Ennui]

Are you talking about illegal drugs and/or narcotics?

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I fail to recognize the problem in this..... unless its not about drugs....

You're an uninformed idiot reeking of ignorance and therefore are not permitted to have an opinion on the matter.

I really oppose illegality of psychedelics, particularly psilocybe mushrooms; they've done nothing but increased whatever danger there is in taking them tenfold by illegalizing them. To be honest I don't feel so bad for whoever it is that died while taking them, since by being irresponsible you accept the risks, but it's stupid to make them illegal on account of one person's stupidity. Drunk people get themselves killed all the damn time and yet alcohol is still fully legal.

 

[15357]

You're an uninformed idiot reeking of ignorance and therefore are not permitted to have an opinion on the matter.

I really oppose illegality of psychedelics, particularly psilocybe mushrooms; they've done nothing but increased whatever danger there is in taking them tenfold by illegalizing them. To be honest I don't feel so bad for whoever it is that died while taking them, since by being irresponsible you accept the risks, but it's stupid to make them illegal on account of one person's stupidity. Drunk people get themselves killed all the damn time and yet alcohol is still fully legal.

Ok.... So, Mr.Commiehippy, we are talking about drugs, right?


I can't understand your logic. How does illegalizing them increase the danger in taking them? They make it harder to get, so the danger would decrease...

 

[Ennui]

Ok.... So, Mr.Commiehippy, we are talking about drugs, right?


I can't understand your logic. How does illegalizing them increase the danger in taking them? They make it harder to get, so the danger would decrease...

Using magic mushrooms as a specific example, since things like this become harder to define the more we open our spread of explanation:

1) Problems with use. Illegal psychedelics don't come with a manual or a handbook or instructions. Users are encouraged merely by setting and availablity to NOT be responsible and know what they're getting into, and this increases the danger dramatically when people aren't informed about what they're doing to themselves. Shrooms are physically unharmful, but if you take them and don't know what's going to happen, you're probably in for the most terrifying experience of your life.

2) Problems with supply. Mushrooms are still going to be widely and easily available in Ireland, because they grow wild all over the place. Inherent problems with this are that there are a lot of poisionous mushrooms that closely resemble the psychoactive psilocybe strains of fungi and 99% of shroom hunters aren't mycologists in any sense of the term. This is going to precipitate poisoning from picking and eating the wrong variety of mushroom.

3) Violence associated with illegal drug culture. Self explanatory.

Legal shrooms are easier to regulate, you can be more sure the users aren't being total idiots with them by informing them of the effects, risks, etc of what they're taking, etc.

Magic mushrooms are one of the least harmful drugs in existance. It's a physical impossibility to overdose (you'd have to eat more shrooms than your stomach can hold, and believe me they aren't tasty enough for this to happen), they have no harmful physical effects, no lasting long-term mental effects (no negative ones anyway), and are generally benign - in the sense they don't harm you.

Just blow the lid off your consciousness.

I don't think everyone is prepared to experience what the mushrooms show you... but it's a terrible thing to keep them from teaching the people that are prepared.

 

[15357]

Hmm, I guess that makes sense... a lot....


but you also could broadcast messages on TV about the harmful effects of the mushrooms.

 

[BirdMan]

Follow the mario rule

http://www.retroclobber.com/images/tshirts/thumbnails/nintendo_mushrooms_thumb_med.gif


Back on topic... its a sad day for Ireland... Mushroom owns... i hope it gets legalised in Canada

 

[Ennui]

Hmm, I guess that makes sense... a lot....


but you also could broadcast messages on TV about the harmful effects of the mushrooms.

They would be short messages. The harmful effects of mushrooms are only that it's possible to have a bad trip - and this is a largely subjective possibility. If taken in a controlled, relaxed environment, risk is minimized.

Not to mention a bad trip is hardly a bad thing. It's a learning experience, even if it's pretty damn horrible to deal with.

 

[BirdMan]

After dealing with a lvl 3-4 badtrip I must say that it was the worse experience of my life, but I see it positively, it's not something I would like to live twice, but it served it's good cause i realised that getting lost in the wood with a intolerable hot sun shining on you with 4 hours of walking without any clue where you are going while peaking is not a thing to do often... But the trip switched back immediatly to a great ****in trip as soon as we found the road we were looking for and became one of the best moments of my life.

back to the topic:

It's not hard to do a good trip, and it could be one of the most rewarding experience of a life time, everyone should live at least one in their life. Just get people to know what they will be up to and everything is gonna be fiiinnne

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Wow, i'm lazy, I was going to type a whole bunch of stuff but it seems Ennui has summed up how I feel perfectly...ok then

/walks off

 

[gick]

Fat Whore Harney, the minister for health bans them saying that she'd met with the family of a boy who died recently while taking them.

Damn. I hate politicians. Especially ones who pull stupid shit like this...

 

[venturon]

Clearly this is a clever ploy to rid Ireland of Mario.

 

[Bob_Marley]

It's still legal to sell them undried in the UK though

Not true, the law was changed recently so that magic mushrooms in all forms are illegal to posess or grow.

 

[gick]

Personally, I think nothing that grows naturally should be made illegal. It doesnt make sense.

 

[Nuada]

Doncha know? GOD ****ED UP!!!

 

[$kelet0r]

well the mushrooms themselves maybe illegal but the spores will still be available to purchase - you just wont be able to sell them

 

[Nuada]

Hopefully. I'll have to check this out before getting them though. This all started because of a few customsmen getting above their station

 

[ComradeBadger]

Not true, the law was changed recently so that magic mushrooms in all forms are illegal to posess or grow.

But I've seen them advertised in the NME

 

[gick]

But I've seen them advertised in the NME

Come to think of it, i've seen them openly sold at big stands at festivals.

 

[sinkoman]

Clearly this is a clever ploy to rid Ireland of Mario.

Immature and unfunny.

Anyway...

It looks to me like some of you are advocating and/or preaching the drug. Your factual arguments make a ton of sense (Ennui in particular), but a lot of it seems based off of oppinion.

Are you guys trying to say that these thigns are good for culture and society?

I'm not opposing either view (good/bad), but i'd just like to know where you guys stand on this.

 

[gick]

Are you guys trying to say that these thigns are good for culture and society?

Whether they are good for society or not is entirely irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, nobody has the right to tell me what to do with my mind/body, especially not governments.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

They're illegal to grow? Damn, there's enough growing all by themselves in my garden each year to satisfy any hippy commune. Call the cops!

Anyway, I echo Ennui's thoughts on this.

 

[Ennui]

john and nuada, psilocybin spores ARE legal in America because they don't contain psilocybin or psilocin, so they're probably legal in the UK as well.

and that's probably what you saw advertised, badgie, though it's possible people are just illegally selling the mushrooms.

 

[JNightshade]

Ah, shrooms. Never done 'em personally, but I have some friends who do, and I've seen them tripping. They don't seem to be a big deal to me, but then, a politician's specialty is making mountains out of molehills.

 

[Nuada]

john and nuada, psilocybin spores ARE legal in America because they don't contain psilocybin or psilocin, so they're probably legal in the UK as well.

Yeah the spores are legal here. So, so logical the whole thing isn't it?
Their legality in the UK doesn't concern me in the slightest though

 

[$kelet0r]

it seems that the more effort you go to the less bothered the authorities are

 

[Raziaar]

I expected this to be a topic about Lucky Charms.

"They're magically delicious!"

 

[Solaris]

Omg, walked into Selffridges yesterday Looking for the cereal Lucky Charms. I'd had them in America numerous times, and they are the best thing...ever. Its like sweeties, but for breakfast

Anyway they had them but they were 7pounds a pack, thats about 12 dollars

I didn't get them D:

 

[Raziaar]

Omg, walked into Selffridges yesterday Looking for the cereal Lucky Charms. I'd had them in America numerous times, and they are the best thing...ever. Its like sweeties, but for breakfast

Anyway they had them but they were 7pounds a pack, thats about 12 dollars

I didn't get them D:

Designer cereal is as expensive as oil. In the united states we have these 'value' brands, that are essentially the exact same cereal, with more of it, for less money. I forget the name of the brand.

 

[Spectre01]

Drugs are bad mmmkay, and so is alcohol.

 

[French Ninja]

Designer cereal is as expensive as oil. In the united states we have these 'value' brands, that are essentially the exact same cereal, with more of it, for less money. I forget the name of the brand.

I think you are talking about buying in "bulk"?

 

[Raziaar]

I think you are talking about buying in "bulk"?

No. There are these special value brands... exact same cereal(you cant tell the difference) as the major brands, but cheaper with more cereal.

EDIT: I have a bag in my house, its hi-top brand. Check em out when you're in the states, do quality/price comparisons if you like

 

[kirovman]

Yeah, same happens in with every product.

Except Kellogg's and Colgate "We don't make Cereal/Toothpaste for anyone else"

 

[short recoil]

Magic mushrooms are bad, i'm fine with people smoking the odd joint as it does no harm but mushrooms are seriously bad for you.

If you must alter your mind go and sit in a black room for 5 days listening to white noise.

 

[Solaris]

Designer cereal is as expensive as oil. In the united states we have these 'value' brands, that are essentially the exact same cereal, with more of it, for less money. I forget the name of the brand.

You misunderstand, there expensive becuase there imported into the UK.

God I wish Asda sold them.

 

[Raziaar]

You misunderstand, there expensive becuase there imported into the UK.

God I wish Asda sold them.

They're NATURALLY expensive here in the states without all those shipping costs. lol.

Like 4 bucks a box. CRAZY.

 

[Solaris]

They're NATURALLY expensive here in the states without all those shipping costs. lol.

Like 4 bucks a box. CRAZY.

I would play that for one bowl.

 

[ríomhaire]

Who cares, idiots will still take them anyway.