Maths doesn't actually exist, you know.

AJ Rimmer said:
Journalists, childcare workers and actors?
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Actually many journalists major in things like English Language rather than journalism or media. The other two are things you hardly need a university degree for; some training, yes, but as I understand it "majors" are what you pick in college.
 
Eejit said:
Actually many journalists major in things like English Language rather than journalism or media. The other two are things you hardly need a university degree for; some training, yes, but as I understand it "majors" are what you pick in college.
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So... some journalists major in journalism then.
 
HL2.net: where rhetorical questions are serious business :rolleyes:
 
But why would someone choose a picture of cheesecake to represent all pies in this thread? There's something fishy going on...
 
Yes, jeez, I think that would be obvious seeing as it was surrounded by bananas and made out of damn cream, but then you get people like eejit.
 
Im with you Dog! NO MATH

thou i couldn't do my job without it.
 
Maths is our way of interpreting something - the underlying bit what joins everystuff together. This... Alien... from another galaxy would not have 2, but they will have something corresponding to what (when you get right down to it) is 2.

Also, it's fish pie.
 
Eejit said:
HL2.net: where rhetorical questions are serious business :rolleyes:
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I'm sorry, I should be focusing on the more important matters.

So what kind of pie is it really, if indeed it is a pie at all? Huh? HUH?!
 
Math is a result of simple logical processes. In any universe where effect follows cause, math will inevitably be discovered by a sentient species.
 
Qonfused said:
It's banana creme pie.
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Sounds disgusting, too much cream = gross. Glad I've not run across it before.
lefty said:
Yes, jeez, I think that would be obvious seeing as it was surrounded by bananas and made out of damn cream, but then you get people like eejit.
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It's not even on a pie base, that's a biscuit base. It has none of the traditional hallmarks of a pie, and all the features of a cheesecake.
Even if 'pie' is in it's name it certainly isn't representative enough of the food group to be chosen as the sole example of a pie when such food is under discussion.


I call shenanigans.


AJ Rimmer said:
I'm sorry, I should be focusing on the more important matters.

So what kind of pie is it really, if indeed it is a pie at all? Huh? HUH?!
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I'm glad you've come to your senses. And no, it certainly doesn't seem like a real pie to me.
 
Eejit said:
Sounds disgusting, too much cream = gross. Glad I've not run across it before.
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It's not all creme. Most of it is custard (yes, like cheesecake). My favorite pie by a long shot.
 
Hey guys, languages dont exist. Think about it, we just made up laguages. Without humans, there would be no language.
 
Well it's like any other language only instead it's developed specifically to describe a functional process through observation or theoretical speculation. It does not explain how things work or where an electron gets it's energy from in sub atomics for instance, it is purely a representation of a physical function, and is indeed very handy.
 
Well whatever the hell you want to call it. I'm not good with culinary terms, obviously... :p

To me, Banana Creme Pie and cheesecake share similar consistencies.
 
So, in theory, since maths and languages are just ways we have created to control the underlying whatsits of the universe, it sis only a few short evolutionary steps till we can control the very fabric of the universe with our minds.
 
97AndyMacK said:
So, in theory, since maths and languages are just ways we have created to control the underlying whatsits of the universe, it sis only a few short evolutionary steps till we can control the very fabric of the universe with our minds.
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Just like the Carrionites.
 
97AndyMacK said:
So, in theory, since maths and languages are just ways we have created to control the underlying whatsits of the universe, it sis only a few short evolutionary steps till we can control the very fabric of the universe with our minds.
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I think language precedes any perception of the world, rather than the other way round.
 
Hmmm. True :/ You saw through my logic :) So maths - being the purest of languages - is just a way of describing the universe, and noting down the outcomes wich can then be used to create desireable situations.

But hang on, the act of describing something causes it to be, yes? So we simply change the way we describe it, et viola, universal alteration. Because things have to work both ways - one cannot have something that is a one-way enterprise.
 
5 pages talking about math in less than 24 hours. Holy shiet!
 
It fortunately deviated to a thread about Pi(e) on page 3. Huzzah. Anyway it has ceased to be "just maths".

Slowly but surely we are proving, yet again, that the universe does not exist. this includes Pie. This has been done so many times recently I feel even the universe itself is getting a it uncertain.
 
apple_pie.jpg
 
97AndyMacK said:
But hang on, the act of describing something causes it to be, yes? So we simply change the way we describe it, et viola, universal alteration. Because things have to work both ways - one cannot have something that is a one-way enterprise.
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Doesn't work like that because we don't have as much of a choice in the matter of language/perception as we think or wish.

There is, however, a tribe in South America - the Piraha. They have no numbers, no terms of quantification (such as, all, each, every most, some) no colour terms, no perfect tense. Pronouns do not come easily to them and they have no individual or collective memory of much more than two generations. So they have no linguistic way of referring to anything concrete, anything abstract, anything that falls outside the immediate visible experience of the speaker.

in other words, they can only discuss what they can see. And when something can no longer be perceived, it ceases to exist in a very real way. This is why the Piraha are so very excited when they see a canoe go round a bend in the river, and disappear entirely from their world.
 
Again, I conceed that this is true. :/

*Error* Out of Theories. Try again in half an hour.
 
We can perceive the world through touch, taste, sight, and sound... but speech and math is a way to describe. You could kinda say it's our sixth sense.
 
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