Mexico Senate OKs bill to legalize drug possesion

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Mexico's Senate approved a bill on Tuesday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of narcotics for personal use, in order to free resources to fight violent drug cartels.

The bill, proposed by conservative President Felipe Calderon, would make it legal to carry up to 5 grams (0.18 ounces) of marijuana, 500 milligrams (0.018 ounces) of cocaine and tiny quantities of other drugs such as heroin and methamphetamines.

Mexico's Congress passed a similar proposal in 2006 but the bill was vetoed by Calderon's predecessor Vicente Fox, under pressure from the United States, which said it would increase drug abuse, but now is worried by the drug-related violence along its border

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No doubt following Portugal's success of their drug decriminalization.
 
more reasons to erect a "berlin esque" wall at our southern border
 
times are changing...too bad the US is in the political 3rd world
 
Tyguy said:
times are changing...too bad the US is in the political 3rd world
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seems to me like you've come down with a case of anti-americanitis ...most likely because you're all whacked out on drugs, you goddam junkie
 
CptStern said:
seems to me like you've come down with a case of anti-americanitis ...most likely because you're all whacked out on drugs, you goddam junkie
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Definitely not anti-American by any means, but that doesn't mean I can't disagree relentlessly regarding the way we handle drugs in this country. There are some things that really piss me off about my country, but the mere fact that I can voice my opinion and not get shot is always a plus, not to say this is the case is most. I could have always been born in North Korea.

CyberPitz said:
Because we aren't allowing possession of meth? :LOL:
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because the American war on drugs has been such a success? Mexico's aim is to reduce the capital invested in trivial shit and focus on the real problems their drug situation is causing.

Our aim is to pack as many people into prison as we can.
I'm not saying meth should be sold next to nyquil in CVS but for gods sake times need to change, agreed?
 
CptStern said:
seems to me like you've come down with a case of anti-americanitis
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Tyguy said:
because the American war on drugs has been such a success? Mexico's aim is to reduce the capital invested in trivial shit and focus on the real problems their drug situation is causing.

Our aim is to pack as many people into prison as we can.
I'm not saying meth should be sold next to nyquil in CVS but for gods sake times need to change, agreed?
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Reworked? Of course! But saying that Mexico's idea is a pretty good one is a little worrisome. Instead of just dropping the whole "Possession charges", why not rework them? In the end, I'm not in Mexico so it doesn't affect me one bit...I just find it odd someone would want something like that around here :shrug:
 
This is great news. Drug problems should be/are a medical issue not a criminal issue.
If you criminalize and demonize drugs like the current popular policies are doing, you divide the population into two: the "normal" citizens and HORRIBLE CRIMINALSCUM JUNKIES. The only way an heroin-addict can get his/her life back is through sensible treatment policies not costly criminal incarceration.
The only way a country can have control over certain substances is to tax and regulate them, not by prohibition (which creates a horrible black market which works because of demand needs supply).
"THINK OF THE KIDS" argument is retarded because regulation would be a more effective system to control consumption (dealers want profit not identification).

As long as we have tiring routines, there will be the desire to escape this reality (read: use drugs).
Legalize, educate, medicate.

*grumpy face mumbling*

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Maturin said:
Sarcasm or not?
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Is Portugal's success really debatable ?
 
they dont need to rework them. they're only decriminalising possession of very small amounts. targets casual use. I mean even a casual coke user would want more than half a gram
 
Hard drugs boost your immune system against swine flu. I welcome this thought-out approach by the Mexican health minister.
 
noQ said:
This is great news. Drug problems should be/are a medical issue
Is Portugal's success really debatable ?
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I didn't know they decriminalized anything, so I was asking.

(But if you want to show that there's a consensus on something, don't link to the Cato Institute :p)
 
All those kids going down there for Spring Break next year will probably come back loaded up on drugs and a lot of people will be arrested at airports i bet
 
CyberPitz said:
Reworked? Of course! But saying that Mexico's idea is a pretty good one is a little worrisome. Instead of just dropping the whole "Possession charges", why not rework them? In the end, I'm not in Mexico so it doesn't affect me one bit...I just find it odd someone would want something like that around here :shrug:
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they are sacrificing small possession charges to reduce violence...i have no problem with that. I never said we should adopt their legal system where it applies to narcotics.
 
I find this surprising considering is from a latinamerican country

hope this help reduce violence and not increase the power of the narcos

however I wonder what will be the reaction of the other countryes to that since drugs is a big no thing in latinamerica and even chavez use it in a bad way,hell even fidel castro blamed mexico a bit about the swine flu thing
 
Warped said:
All those kids going down there for Spring Break next year will probably come back loaded up on drugs and a lot of people will be arrested at airports i bet
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Only if they are morons

and .5 grams does not equal 'loaded'


You don't want to be in a Mexican prison, son.
 
Hell, it should help boost the tourist economy. It's pretty much gone to shit since the Swine Flu outbreak.

@ those posting that legalizing hard drugs is a bad move: give a good reason as to why. Putting addicts in prisons only worsens or creates new problems--countries with more severe penalties and prison sentences for possession charges have proven that the system is backwards and creates more problems (such as stressing the prison system, senseless violence against law enforcement and promoting a pharmaceutical monopoly on "dangerous" psychoactive drugs).

tl;dr: Let's drop the stoner vs. straight edge cultural mumbo jumbo and talk facts. The war on [even hard] drugs is patently ass backwards and has never done anything good for this country. As someone in this thread has suggested one needn't look further than Portugal or the Netherlands to see how decriminalization is, without a doubt, a step in the right direction.
 
Be sure to bring as many friends as you can, get them to hold 5 grams each, take it off them, put it in the bowl, and then tell them to gtfo.

I'll bring the vape.
 
Well, you can hold, like, 2 grams in Perth.

So meet me in Perth?
 
Well, it's on the other side of the country for me.

I mean, you're in a drafty pair of trousers, you don't have to worry about paying for shit.

The owner of the pants spoils you.
 
It's not a bad life, I'll tell you that much. You should visit sometime.
 
Good. I'm surprised they did it with heroin and meth, but I guess it will help stop some of the violence.

Also, wtf? 5 grams? What kind of puny amount is that? :p
 
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