More CS players than CS:S?

Dario D.

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I just looked at Gamespy. 47,000 people are playing old Counter-Strike, and 40,000 are playing Counter-Strike: Source.

Why? I've played them both, and I far, far prefer CS:S, for a whole wide range of reasons.

Why do more than half of CS players play the *old* CS?
 
because source sucks plain and simple, all the 1337 players play 1.6 :cool:
 
Because CS 1.6 can run on a toaster while Source can't. I like Source more than 1.6 in every way so I'm happy.
 
Spectre01 said:
Because CS 1.6 can run on a toaster while Source can't. I like Source more than 1.6 in every way so I'm happy.
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I can run both fine, i just play 1.6 over Source, because Source is godawful, and i'm one of those people with hitbox issues. Its not fun to play, so i play the one that works for me. Mine looks great with the CS Realism pack, the maps ain't as brilliant, but looks don't mean everything. Gameplay is top of my agenda.
 
what i dont get is y the hell ppl use gamespy to go into a steam game when u have gamespy and steam open at the same time
 
Dario D. said:
I just looked at Gamespy. 47,000 people are playing old Counter-Strike, and 40,000 are playing Counter-Strike: Source.

Why? I've played them both, and I far, far prefer CS:S, for a whole wide range of reasons.

Why do more than half of CS players play the *old* CS?
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Runs better on most computers.

Nice, reliable, lovely netcode in 1.6. Compared to randomly unpredictable randomness of source netcode.
 
too some people cs 1.6 is pure gameplay and cs: s is more gfx.
 
But the gameplay is nearly identicle, except the recoil is fixed so you don't feel like a 5 year old who can't aim after firing one shot.
 
Hmm... I don't think I understand yet.

In my eyes, CS:S is still an experience that's worlds above the old CS. I don't understand "source sucks, but I won't say why", and "source is random, but only I can tell". Source still seems way better to me. I've had no problems... and I certainly can't stand the old server connection interface of old CS.
 
Ok i'll try an analogy.

Imagine playing basketball on court. Ok imagine that court is filled with bits of garbage, metallic spikes, the backboard is broken and the ring is drooping down. It's really bad conditions to play basketball in. That's CS:S.

CS1.6 is like playing on a clutter free, lovely arena. Excellent to get to the point of the game.
 
I guess it winds down to opinion then... For me, I see the other side of the anology. To me, CS:S is like a buffet table with balanced nutrition and variety. CS is like a block of protein. All it's good for is building muscle (scoring frags), so it tastes like crap, looks like crap, and only appeals to those who want the muscle, and not the balanced nutrition / experience of the game.

So if you want muscle, CS.
If you want to be healthy, CS:S.
 
CS:S is like a flying octopus. you're like, holy shit, its a flying octopus! while CS 1.6 is like a flying hamburger, and you're like, ahh yeah flying hamburger. both are good. but CS:S looks cooler.
 
poseyjmac said:
CS:S is like a flying octopus. you're like, holy shit, its a flying octopus! while CS 1.6 is like a flying hamburger, and you're like, ahh yeah flying hamburger. both are good. but CS:S looks cooler.
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Yeah that's basically it lol it's all opinion

And the player stats are more like this

Counter-Strike 1.6 --103,667
Counter-Strike: Source --26,059

http://steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html
 
CS 1.6 will always be much higher than source assuming source doesn't fix all its problems. As i said before im one of those people with really bad hitbox problems as demonstrated In this link. Please watch if you want to understand why so many gave up on source and went back to 'reliable' Cs1.6 and ditched the inconsistant Source. It makes the game extremely shit, because you cant hit other people, but they can hit you everywhere. And its not due to being a very poor player. I know what i'm doing in source from the basic 1.6 concept. When its fixed i'll give it another shot.
 
Hectic Glenn said:
CS 1.6 will always be much higher than source assuming source doesn't fix all its problems. As i said before im one of those people with really bad hitbox problems as demonstrated In this link. Please watch if you want to understand why so many gave up on source and went back to 'reliable' Cs1.6 and ditched the inconsistant Source. It makes the game extremely shit, because you cant hit other people, but they can hit you everywhere. And its not due to being a very poor player. I know what i'm doing in source from the basic 1.6 concept. When its fixed i'll give it another shot.
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wow that's crazy, good example, sure the graphics are leet but gameplay is totally different from 1.6, i guess if you got teh real skills you play 1.6
 
CS 1.6 will always be much higher than source assuming source doesn't fix all its problems. As i said before im one of those people with really bad hitbox problems as demonstrated In this link. Please watch if you want to understand why so many gave up on source and went back to 'reliable' Cs1.6 and ditched the inconsistant Source. It makes the game extremely shit, because you cant hit other people, but they can hit you everywhere. And its not due to being a very poor player. I know what i'm doing in source from the basic 1.6 concept. When its fixed i'll give it another shot.
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That hitbox video is total shite dont fall for it.If anything source netcode is more
reliable if used correctly.
 
They play it more because they can play it without their FPS dipping below 30 at annoying times.

Although CS and CS:S players could spend their time better by playing Natural Selection instead.
 
StardogChampion said:
They play it more because they can play it without their FPS dipping below 30 at annoying times.

Although CS and CS:S players could spend their time better by playing Natural Selection instead.
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NS has become total shite :x
version 1.04 wasn't the greatest but it wasn't all that bad either.. the NS team went and ruined a good thing. :|
 
I have played 1.6 for nearly 4 years now and i am neutral over both css and 1.6, it is just annoying having to adjust to the reg and recoil etc etc between the two, e.g. you've just come off playing css for 2 hours and playing well, you go onto 1.6 and play total shite when you know your good as the recoil is totally differen't, well thats imo anyway.
 
It seems extremely peculiar that the bots, even in offline play, have wierd hit-boxes. The hit-boxes don't actually do that in online play, do they?

If so, that's crap-tastic. If not, that's what I expected... seems too ridiculous of Valve to be true.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Ok i'll try an analogy.

Imagine playing basketball on court. Ok imagine that court is filled with bits of garbage, metallic spikes, the backboard is broken and the ring is drooping down. It's really bad conditions to play basketball in. That's CS:S.

CS1.6 is like playing on a clutter free, lovely arena. Excellent to get to the point of the game.
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yea i dont know why ppl hate CS;S...i mean im not the best player but in 1.6 i had a 2:1 ratio, in source i still have 2:1 ratio.

feels the same to me, just the gfx are WAY better.
 
Sgt.Murray said:
I have played 1.6 for nearly 4 years now and i am neutral over both css and 1.6, it is just annoying having to adjust to the reg and recoil etc etc between the two, e.g. you've just come off playing css for 2 hours and playing well, you go onto 1.6 and play total shite when you know your good as the recoil is totally differen't, well thats imo anyway.
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ok so i been palying CS;S since it came out, and never went back to 1.6.

so i played 1.6 ( damn it looks like crap) after a game of CS:S and went 31-13
the map was de_Aztec. before i played 1.6 i was on the same map, just on CS;S and basically had the same score 33-14.
 
Yeah but it depends also on who you play against, where your playing and the server itself, or some people may just get lucky.
 
Well, I love CS:S, and actually never play CS 1.6 anymore. Although my extreme leet skills are still there, and my LAN party friends know that; they accused me of using an aimbot :D
 
Beerdude26 said:
Well, I love CS:S, and actually never play CS 1.6 anymore. Although my extreme leet skills are still there, and my LAN party friends know that; they accused me of using an aimbot :D
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Anyone who accuses someone of using an aimbot is an immature n00b. :upstare:
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Ok i'll try an analogy.

Imagine playing basketball on court. Ok imagine that court is filled with bits of garbage, metallic spikes, the backboard is broken and the ring is drooping down. It's really bad conditions to play basketball in. That's CS:S.

CS1.6 is like playing on a clutter free, lovely arena. Excellent to get to the point of the game.
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But in 1.6 you dont get to shoot the debris and watch it roll across the map.
 
OvA said:
But in 1.6 you dont get to shoot the debris and watch it roll across the map.
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yeah i'm talking from a strictly "feel" point of view. The garbage on the court can be likened to bugs, hit rego problems, netcode. I didn't literally mean garbage. A lot of 1.6 players say 1.6 just feels, moves, responds, so much better. Largely due to computer power i think
 
Mr-Fusion said:
yeah i'm talking from a strictly "feel" point of view. The garbage on the court can be likened to bugs, hit rego problems, netcode. I didn't literally mean garbage. A lot of 1.6 players say 1.6 just feels, moves, responds, so much better. Largely due to computer power i think
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Yeah i can agree with that. One thing which 'angers' me perhaps about source is the fact you don't even get to use the havoc physics as they are disabled. They are great fun in HL2DM. A rolling barrel provides 10 seconds enjoyment, yet a lifetime of misery if connected to reg problems. Someone else commented that the hitbox video is wrong/ not true. Well despite your opinion, when i play source I actually GET those problems, seriously, and so do some of my college mates, but some don't as most people on this forum don't. There are a considerable number of us though. I'd like it to work, i really would.
 
I swear to god source runs like shit, I even have preformance problems with HL:S at 1024. It really baffles me how I can run HL at 1600x1200 with full AA/AF everything blown at 85 fps but damned if I can keep a steady fps in HL:S. The flashlight alone takes a 20 fps chunk. :\

CS:S? It runs ok for the most part, 80 fps here and there, I get like a 10 fps drop just from shooting and god forbid I get into a fire fight with more than one person, FPS dies. So I absolutely destroy my visual settings, like sub HL1 look here. STILL have FPS problems. I can run BF2 at a happy 50+ fps almost always in heavy action and the game looks awesome. WHY DO YOU TORMENT ME SO GOD.

brb dystopia time
 
It feels like when i look for 1.6 servers i can hardly find a server with more than 10 people.
 
Weird, shouldn't have too many problems in css if your not getting any in HL2 ... but then again a lot of people have had fps problems since the last update.
 
It's because CS 1.6 is FREE, and you need to pay money to play CS:S. CS:S is way nicer, but most people aren't willing to pay money for the same shit with an updated engine.

Especially since most players of Counter Strike are not Half Life fans. Theres no good reason to buy the whole thing.
 
The only reason I'd go back to 1.6 is because I can no longer play games running on the Source engine. CS:S just seems like a far more enjoyable experience to me (which isn't saying much since I don't like CS any way).

1.6 users can continue to play around with their little anachronism if they wish.
 
Noob here, I haven't played 1.6 at all. CS:S is it for me. But some interesting points made by all of you.

I have some questions for you guys in this regard:

1) What's a hitbox?
2) What's an average framerate for CS:S
3) Is there a way to check what your fps is?

sorry for the noob questions...thx.
 
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