More CS players than CS:S?

Source has troubles, but 1.6 isn't perfect either. I like source, because it feels more smooth, I like to see the visuals, and while the hit boxes are pissy sometimes, they sometimes work instead to make a unique situation
 
shabazz5th said:
Noob here, I haven't played 1.6 at all. CS:S is it for me. But some interesting points made by all of you.

I have some questions for you guys in this regard:

1) What's a hitbox?
2) What's an average framerate for CS:S
3) Is there a way to check what your fps is?

sorry for the noob questions...thx.
1) A hitbox is the area of the model you need to fire at to get a "hit".

Example:

hitbox.JPG


To get a headshot, the game requiers you to shoot within the red box around the enemys head.

2) Framerates depend entierly on what kind of computer you have. Also what the scene is. If its some kind of massive firefight with lots of things on screen, the avarage framerate for a 2 ghz computer is about 20 fps, more or less. While the same scene for a top of the line computer might run at 50-60 fps.

3) Type net_graph or show_fps in the console.

CS 1.6 has much higher FPS because it has shitty graphics and low detail. Also i heard somewhere that the hitboxes in CS 1.6 are 30% larger than in Source. Wich explains why its so easy to get a Headshot in 1.6.
 
Loc-Dog said:
CS 1.6 has much higher FPS because it has shitty graphics and low detail. Also i heard somewhere that the hitboxes in CS 1.6 are 30% larger than in Source. Wich explains why its so easy to get a Headshot in 1.6.
LMAO, are you kidding me? Easier? Ask nearly...ANYONE, and they will tell you Source is a headshot fest, there are far more headshots in source without a shadow of doubt.

It feels like when i look for 1.6 servers i can hardly find a server with more than 10 people.
Marcopollo, you are looking in the wrong places. Do a search for de_dust 2 on 1.6, and refresh, you'll see so many full servers with 24 people playing, anytime of day.

SocK said:
CS:S? It runs ok for the most part, 80 fps here and there, I get like a 10 fps drop just from shooting and god forbid I get into a fire fight with more than one person, FPS dies. So I absolutely destroy my visual settings, like sub HL1 look here. STILL have FPS problems. I can run BF2 at a happy 50+ fps almost always in heavy action and the game looks awesome. WHY DO YOU TORMENT ME SO GOD.
I have the same problem, and i have the same specs, except im running a P4 2.66ghz. Deathmatch runs fine though, and dystopia.

Seriously some of you people have no idea when it comes to CS 1.6. You have to have played it for a long time to make any judgement. Your just guessing. If you are taken in my just source's graphics you are pretty dense and easily impressed.
 
Perhaps people think the old CS is better because they fear change?
I know many of my friends have never even played CS:Source but claim that they hate it, and won't buy it.
When they do play CS:Source, they blame every death on the scary new engine. They say the hitboxes made me miss him, my framerate is low that's why I died, and it's too easy to get a headshot.
Either way I don't care what people think, I enjoy CS:source far more than CS 1.6, if someone wants to play on the archaic engine so be it.
 
Again, I've never played 1.6, but I can relate to this argument. On the Halo2 forums its the exact same thing. The first Halo takes skill and the 2nd one doesn't...

People are afraid of change. The sad thing is, people have dedicated so much time on the first game and when the second game comes out, it's slighly different, bringing them down to a level playing field with everyone.

Give them time...in a year or two, they will love it and hate the NEXT installment.

But personally I can't say a damn thing about 1.6...CS:Source is great though!
 
Hectic: I've played CS on and off since 1.0. I was in a clan too (shitty one, but anyway).

I've been playing Source now since it came out. And i can say straight up that in Source you need to aim. Now and then i still play some 1.6, for the memories. What happens is that i walk into the hallway on Dust 2 (bomb site B) with nothing but a glock. And then i kill 3 CT's without even looking, by means of headshot.

Sure, in Source you get headshots too. When you aim for the head. Sometimes in 1.6 you dont even hit the opponent when you can clearly see a limb behind a box or something.
 
Loc-Dog said:
Hectic: I've played CS on and off since 1.0. I was in a clan too (shitty one, but anyway).

I've been playing Source now since it came out. And i can say straight up that in Source you need to aim. Now and then i still play some 1.6, for the memories. What happens is that i walk into the hallway on Dust 2 (bomb site B) with nothing but a glock. And then i kill 3 CT's without even looking, by means of headshot.

Sure, in Source you get headshots too. When you aim for the head. Sometimes in 1.6 you dont even hit the opponent when you can clearly see a limb behind a box or something.

Yeah, I shot right at someone's forehead. Was like what the hell, then shot at the chest, headshot. 1.6 is weird, source is pretty clear when you hit, and even though sometimes its bordering on weird, if you see someones head sticking out- chances are you can hit it.
 
DEATHMASTER said:
source is kick ass, never tried 1.6, probably never will
Well..seeing as they were right when they said CS 1.6ers hate source because their computer doesn't even support the source engine, niether will I.
 
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