MPAA supposedly suing torrent and Ed2k sites

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The MPAA put out a press release saying they are suing several torrent and eDonkey sites. is0hunt, torrentspy, and ed2k-it were named in particular.

Now, while I understand the motivations of the MPAA and the fact that they are acting on behalf of many major motion picture companies, this isn;t the way they should be going about all of this. Piracy is an unavoidable problem that needs to be dealt with by working with and around the pirates, not working against them. By striking out at piracy they are merely making themselves more of a target.

Honestly, though, even though the movie industry supposedly lost $5.4 billion last year (only $1.9 billion of which is attributed to internet piracy) I have to wonder how much they made. It certainly seems like a very small dent in the industry. Also, I don;t really see anyone in the business starving, especially not the stars, directors, producers, and studio owners. If people doing the actual labor are losing money, they should look to their higher-ups first before looking at pirates. It sickens me that stars constantly seek higher payments for movies when there are plenty of people in the business not earning nearly as much.

I think the MPAA is severely misguided in this affair and if they're smart they won;t sue the torrent and ed2k sites. That's my opinion anyways. What do all of you think?
 
If DVD's were released the day the movie opened in the cinema I know I wouldn't d/l the movie.

£4 for a cinema ticket vs £10 for a basic DVD without any special features. They could actually make more money. The only people who wouldn't like this would be cinemas.

See here - http://www.nypress.com/19/5/film/jennifermerin.cfm

Steven Soderbergh wants to revolutionize American filmmaking and film distribution. His plan to release his 74-minute digitally-shot new film Bubble simultaneously in theaters, on video/DVD
 
StardogChampion said:
If DVD's were released the day the movie opened in the cinema I know I wouldn't d/l the movie.

£4 for a cinema ticket vs £10 for a basic DVD without any special features. They could actually make more money. The only people who wouldn't like this would be cinemas.

See here - http://www.nypress.com/19/5/film/jennifermerin.cfm
I remember reading about this. Personally, I enjoy seeing movies in a theater, but I donlt really have many opportunities at the school I'm at. But I can understand what you're saying. The release time for DVDs is getting closer to the theater release.

I don;t think that's exactly what needs to be done, though. Maybe they should offer their own download service, like iTunes.
 
The solution? Sell them only in the lobby of the cinemas for the opening week (maybe the following week, too). It would be like buying a band's CD while you're still going through the rush after a good concert. Plus, they could sell bundles of ticket + food + dvd for a discount. Then, after the initial restricted period, the regular retailers (including online services) would be allowed to sell them. If that were the case... I would definitely see more movies and buy more DVDs. The best part of this system, for them, is that they wouldn't have to spend twice as much money marketing the film to both the moviegoers and the couch potatoes because the commercials for the theatrical release are still fresh in people's minds.
 
There's always more torrent sites :)

And I know that torrentspy won't go down. They work very carefully to ensure there are no dmca violations.
 
Torrentspy doesn't host anything, it just searches, surely not breaking any laws?
 
They should be concentrating on forcing other countries to stop mass producing pirated DVDs and CDs - SE Asia comes to mind.

But thats hard isn't it? So lets focus on kids in bedrooms downloading things they'd never buy anyway......
 
Most torrent sites get away with it. Like they're based in countries where their laws don't prohibit them from sharing illegal files and what not.

I like the idea of selling the movie at the same time as the release for slightly cheaper than a normal DVD. Then release a DVD later with all the special features.
 
the pirate bay will survive. arr, swedish quality y'all.
 
CrazyHarij said:
the pirate bay will survive. arr, swedish quality y'all.

Haha. I love that place. I like reading through the threats they get :D
 
Remember when suprnova went down? A dozen of other sites popped up and gained popularity. Even if these few sites went down others would just surface in their place.
 
Shodan said:
Torrentspy doesn't host anything, it just searches, surely not breaking any laws?

That's where the lines are blurry, varying countries have different interpretations of whether hosting those torrent files relates to the actual property. I'm pretty sure the USA under DMCA does classify it apart of intellectual property (the old suprnova and lokitorrent were based in US right?).

I was under the impression that the actual servers in Torrentspy are hosted somewhere in Europe and only the company itself is located in the United States...
 
AmishSlayer said:
Remember when suprnova went down?
Wow, you're right. I remember I thought it was the end of the world when Suprnova went down, but I just realised I know a lot of great sites for torrents since then.
 
CrazyHarij said:
the pirate bay will survive. arr, swedish quality y'all.

I like the pirate bay as well, but they don't have as many items listed usually :(
 
CrazyHarij said:
the pirate bay will survive. arr, swedish quality y'all.
I love that place, especially all the replies in the threads that i cannot read because they're in another language...kickass!


Edit: And they've got a damn cool logo thing! :pirate:
 
Heh, well, can't come after my site. I search these sites, and that's all I do. :thumbs:

TakeTwo bothered me once, gave them the URLs to the different sites and they didn't email me again. :D

MPAA and RIAA blow. :) I really should buy that anti-RIAA shirt. :D Pirating is obviously illegal, but you just can't sue like this. BT will always live on. TS doesn't even have a tracker.
 
http://ts.kurtubba.com/ << Torrent Hunter FTW

i like that press release, it's given me a few new sites to visit and d/l some films i have no intention of buying "before they get shut down" - lol:thumbs:
 
AmishSlayer said:
Remember when suprnova went down? A dozen of other sites popped up and gained popularity. Even if these few sites went down others would just surface in their place.

That is absolutely true. Torrentspy feels just as good as Suprnova used to be.

IF these sites do get shut down, it will only cause a delay of a couple of weeks to a month for everyone to find new sites.
 
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