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This is what i'm upgrading to. Any Comments Appreciated.

SX1040 PERFORMANCE II TOWER BLACK 4X5.25IN 6X3.5IN 400W ATX12V P/S
$145.73
LITEON 48X24X48 CDRW& 16X DVD COMBO INT EIDE ATAPI OEM W/ CDRW SW $83.90
INTEL PENTIUM 4 P4 2.4GHZ C 512K 800FSB S478 HT RETAIL BOX
$271.20 (Going to overclock to 3GHz)
MAXTOR DIAMONDMAX PLUS 8 30GB 7200RPM 2MB ATA133 W/ FDB
$78.84
MICROSOFT MULTIMEDIA KEYBOARD & OPTICAL MOUSE OEM (WITH SYSTEM ONLY) $36.87
VIEWSONIC E90F 19IN 1600X1200 .21MM FLATSCREEN
$322.59
ABIT IS7 S478 865PE ATX DUAL DDR AGP 5PCI SATA RAID 1394 SOUND LAN
$168.72
MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION OEM (WITH SYSTEM ONLY)
$128.20
OCZ DUAL CHANNEL OPTIMIZED 2X256MB DDR PC3200 CAS2 W/ COPPER HEAT SPREADER
$218.32
ALTEC LANSING AVS300 3 PIECE MULTIMEDIA SPEAKER SYSTEM
$35.07
SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB DDR AGP8X VGA DVI-I TV OUT OEM
$378.56 (Going to overclock to 9800 Pro)

$1,817.81
+
Tax and Shipping $90.98
+
Built by them $50.00
=
*$1,958.79

All Products from NCIX.com
All Prices in Canadian Funds
*Before Pricematching
*As of August 16, 2003
 
Sounds a bit expensive... But mostly that's the monitor and 9800, so I guess its validated. And I would guess you can get a more powerfull AMD CPU for cheaper price (dont ever ASSUME to overclock to specific ranges).
(example, a 2800+ costs $288, not far from your 2.4. And a 2500+ costs 143, MUCH cheaper. Not to mention you'll get a CRAPLOAD better onboard sound with an Nforce2 board)
 
Those can't be American prices. I only paid $170 for that exact cpu.

Anyway nice computer.
 
Yeah, I was thinking about AMD, but the 2500. I'm not an audiophile or anything, This is the only upgrade I will be getting for awile. (Being that i'm 16 and have a crappy job)Almost all if not all 2.4C can be overclock to at least 3.0GHz, easy matter of changing the FSB from 200 to 250 which the IS7 does quite well. Plus the 865PE are rumoured to be able to support the upcoming prescott's.
 
Well, if you have a crappy income you'll want it to last right? Then a overclocked system (NOW, overclock it for shit in 2-3 years!!) is not good. You can get a 2500+, 8RDA3+ and a Sapphire 9800 Pro for roughly the same price as that I think.
 
Buddy, i'm not trying to sound like an Intel Fanboy but they're faster then AMDs.
 
Also, raising the FSB does not hurt the CPU, since I am not changing the Voltages it doesn't matter.
 
Lol, of course it matters! You are stressing the CPU more than it is designed for (and especially the mobo).
And I dont advocate for an AMD either, its just that they are cheaper, you can get a faster AMD at the same price of a slower Intel. I've seen people clock 1700+ to 2.2ghz (and thats from 1.5ghz or something, I dont know the exact number)
 
Originally posted by dawdler
Lol, of course it matters! You are stressing the CPU more than it is designed for (and especially the mobo).
And I dont advocate for an AMD either, its just that they are cheaper, you can get a faster AMD at the same price of a slower Intel. I've seen people clock 1700+ to 2.2ghz (and thats from 1.5ghz or something, I dont know the exact number)
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Its no stress on the CPU unless you increase the voltage.

like he said.
 
Originally posted by crabcakes66
Its no stress on the CPU unless you increase the voltage.

like he said.
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Depends on how one define stress. At any rate, what it will stress is the mobo... Need really good cooling on it.

And I still dont see the need for stressing it by overclocking it now... Its to expensive to be a cheap overclocked computer anyway :)
Amd now when I think on it: "easy matter of changing the FSB from 200 to 250 ", I thought it had a 800 (400) mhz FSB? Or maybe I need to read up on computers, hehe, it was 7 months ago I bothered with it...
 
it has 200 FSB , but its Quad pumped to 800 as the AMD is duel pumped from the more recent 200 to 400 or 166 to 333.
 
Originally posted by dawdler
Depends on how one define stress. At any rate, what it will stress is the mobo... Need really good cooling on it.

And I still dont see the need for stressing it by overclocking it now... Its to expensive to be a cheap overclocked computer anyway :)
Amd now when I think on it: "easy matter of changing the FSB from 200 to 250 ", I thought it had a 800 (400) mhz FSB? Or maybe I need to read up on computers, hehe, it was 7 months ago I bothered with it...
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the 200, 250 is the actaul speed


the 800 and 1000 are just for marketing

they are based on the"quad pumped" bus hence 200x4 = 800mhz fsb


and over clocking to 250 would be 250x4=1000mhz fsb

A quad pumped bus is a bus where four signals can travel per clock cycle
 
Ah. Well, I didnt buy a 800FSBer when I bought, a computer, I bought a 2400+, cost less than half, and you loose very little speed (which mostly gained back by the SoundStorm chip in games).

Its your choice, I just think its unwise to assume everything will be so ok when overclocking. But I dont care of what you do.
 
Originally posted by dawdler
Ah. Well, I didnt buy a 800FSBer when I bought, a computer, I bought a 2400+, cost less than half, and you loose very little speed (which mostly gained back by the SoundStorm chip in games).

Its your choice, I just think its unwise to assume everything will be so ok when overclocking. But I dont care of what you do.
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its true that in a mid range system i would (and have) go AMD

but in the high end.....Intel is clearly ahead in both speed and price.

like NJD2003 is trying to do.....

I can build a p4 2.4c based system for about 900$(american) (without case, monitor, keyboard, mouse and gfx card. I have that stuff)

That can be overclocked easily to beat a 3200+ by far and even a 3.2 with nothing but a good aftermarket cpu heatsink(it can be done with a stock cooler to).

A 3200+ based system would cost me about 1100$ ....and would be noticably slower.


Edit:eek:verclocking 2.4c= ive read a dozen reviews that this is perfectly safe and that the systems it was done on were 100% stable at speeds between 3 and 3.4 ghz depending on your ram and mobo setup.
 
As I said, my experiences are old.
The fastest was like a 2.6ghzer which costed around $600 or something :)

How far can one overclock a 2800+? Just to compare.

I know my current CPU can overclock to around 250mhz. Clockspeed that is, not FSB, long live the PII!! :p
 
Im honestly not sure..

But im sure a few minutes of googling will tell me :)


hmm ive seen someone say as high 2583 ....but im not sure what kinda cooling that is....its sounds pretty damn high to be air cooled.
 
Fast googling shows the 2500+ can clock to 3200+ levels... The 2800+ is apparently NOT a good overclocker. However, the 2500+ is nearly HALF the cost of the 2.4c. Is it worth the extra for the 2.4c? Well, maybe, the FSB helps alot I suppose.
Edit: Found a 2500+ clocked from 1.83 to 2.87Ghz! MAN! That's like a 3600+ (more like 4000+) or something :)
 
Originally posted by dawdler
Fast googling shows the 2500+ can clock to 3200+ levels... The 2800+ is apparently NOT a good overclocker. However, the 2500+ is nearly HALF the cost of the 2.4c. Is it worth the extra for the 2.4c? Well, maybe, the FSB helps alot I suppose.
Edit: Found a 2500+ clocked from 1.83 to 2.87Ghz! MAN! That's like a 3600+ (more like 4000+) or something :)
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I still dont think its quite as fast as the pentium.....and there is no way thats with air cooling.
 
True, true... Wasnt any benchmarks, just a note on it. I forgot to read the settings, got to find it again :)

"During testing with a quality aftermarket heatsink, this processor was able to be overclocked to the same performance levels as the latest Athlon XP 3200+ processor" from a reviewer.

The cpus that was really clocked high (3.4-3.6ghz, but 3000+, not 2500+. 2500+ was only at 3.2ghz :)) used something called LN2 cooling which I dont know what it is...
 
It makes you wonder why people would spend so much money on a 3.2 or a 3200+

even if you didnt overclock quite that much...it would still be damn fast.
 
here is my comment on your system. You spent like 800 extra on it, you should have gotten it/or the parts from some were else.
 
Originally posted by dawdler
Fast googling shows the 2500+ can clock to 3200+ levels... The 2800+ is apparently NOT a good overclocker. However, the 2500+ is nearly HALF the cost of the 2.4c. Is it worth the extra for the 2.4c? Well, maybe, the FSB helps alot I suppose.
Edit: Found a 2500+ clocked from 1.83 to 2.87Ghz! MAN! That's like a 3600+ (more like 4000+) or something :)
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DAMN! Vapochill?
 
When listing prices, please say what form they are in.
 
I'd advise against the CDRW/DVD Combo drive simply because if you lose one you lose them both.
 
yea, get 2 seperate drives. Lite On makes REALLY good disc drives. You can get a Lite On 52x32x52x cdrw drive for under $50. You can also get a Lite On DVDrom drive for under $50, and it plays all cd formates. They have them both on www.newegg.com
 
Never thought of that. I had a lite-on DVD/CD drive combo, but im gonna change it to 2 drives now.
 
Originally posted by crabcakes66
Visiting HL2 forums makes me remember why I quit CS after 1.3. This has to be one of the most immature gaming communitys on the planet.
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Crabcakes, that isnt a good signature. Please removie it.
 
No its not. Crabcakes, please remove it.
 
He did. I know you play CS, and i also know your a good guy. But seriously, when you play in a pub, there is h4x0rz and immature kids.
 
i also frequently come across biggots. Thats what pisses me off the most about cs.
 
Originally posted by NJD2003
This is what i'm upgrading to. Any Comments Appreciated.

SX1040 PERFORMANCE II TOWER BLACK 4X5.25IN 6X3.5IN 400W ATX12V P/S
$145.73
LITEON 48X24X48 CDRW& 16X DVD COMBO INT EIDE ATAPI OEM W/ CDRW SW $83.90
INTEL PENTIUM 4 P4 2.4GHZ C 512K 800FSB S478 HT RETAIL BOX
$271.20 (Going to overclock to 3GHz)
MAXTOR DIAMONDMAX PLUS 8 30GB 7200RPM 2MB ATA133 W/ FDB
$78.84
MICROSOFT MULTIMEDIA KEYBOARD & OPTICAL MOUSE OEM (WITH SYSTEM ONLY) $36.87
VIEWSONIC E90F 19IN 1600X1200 .21MM FLATSCREEN
$322.59
ABIT IS7 S478 865PE ATX DUAL DDR AGP 5PCI SATA RAID 1394 SOUND LAN
$168.72
MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION OEM (WITH SYSTEM ONLY)
$128.20
OCZ DUAL CHANNEL OPTIMIZED 2X256MB DDR PC3200 CAS2 W/ COPPER HEAT SPREADER
$218.32
ALTEC LANSING AVS300 3 PIECE MULTIMEDIA SPEAKER SYSTEM
$35.07
SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 128MB DDR AGP8X VGA DVI-I TV OUT OEM
$378.56 (Going to overclock to 9800 Pro)

$1,817.81
+
Tax and Shipping $90.98
+
Built by them $50.00
=
*$1,958.79

All Products from NCIX.com
All Prices in Canadian Funds
*Before Pricematching
*As of August 16, 2003
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Whatever you do, don't get that hard drive! Everything else is fine, but that hard drive sucks ass. You'd be much better off with a 120GB SATA diamond max 9 plus with 8MB cache, it will kill the diamond max 8 in performance, and it is like 2.5x cheaper per GB (got mine for $127).
 
Originally posted by SpuD
No its not. Crabcakes, please remove it.
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I will not remove it. But i did reword it.


Originally posted by subs
here is my comment on your system. You spent like 800 extra on it, you should have gotten it/or the parts from some were else.
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those are canadian $$$ ......sounds about right to me.....
 
HL2 isnt really the problem...its these hl2 forums. Kinda sounds like your bashing hl2!!
 
Im not talking about the comment towards CS players, im talking about the one towards us.
 
how much does that translate into american money than?
 
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