My computer is running UBER hot!

DreamThrall

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I've got an Athlon XP 2800+ and a 9800 Pro... 4 stealth fans... and MBM 5 and EasyTune4 both say my proc is running at or over 85 degrees celcius, which is supposed to be the max! WTF? This is while all I'm doing is typing on this forum! What am I doing wrong here? I know that stealth fans don't run as fast as the regular ones do, but I use my computer for live sound recording, so I need it to be quiet. PLUS, I don't like my computer to sound like it is taking off.

Anyways, any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. I can take pics of the inside if that would help!
 
Go into the BIOS and see what the temp is. the BIOS is usually a little more accurate than these programs.

If its really at that temp, it seriously shouldn't be. Sounds like the heatsink might not be attached correctly or that the CPU fan died and you didn't realise. Also take the case off and see if that helps. And buy a deskfan and point it into the case.

Gotta say though, I was worried that this machine would reach 52C while idle without help from a deskfan, but yours sounds even worse. Though I'd not panic just yet until you check the BIOS. Then panic.
 
Maybe you applied too much or too little thermal paste to the cpu. Just an idea.
 
Hmm... My buddy was the one that installed the CPU onto the MOBO.... he does this shit for a living, so I would hope he know how to do it right. All the fans appear to be working. About to reboot and check the BIOS temps.
 
CB | Para said:
Maybe you applied too much or too little thermal paste to the cpu. Just an idea.

Sounds more like the heatsinks is improperly put inplace.
 
Well what is your room temperature?
What is your Heatsink? What is the Heatsink Fan?
On the bottom of it is it very fine(Cannot feel large lines when you run your nail over)?
What is your thermal paste?
How much of it did you put on?

Best thing to do is take out the Heatsink and clean it all off and apply some thermal paste and remount it.
 
DreamThrall said:
Yup, BIOS temps are the same....

/freaksout :(

www.shreveportvotes.org/misc/heat/heat.htm

Holy crap, please tell me that is NOT YOUR computer....

First to get the temperature drop like 15 degrees is to organize the cables to get them away from the motherboard. Like stuff the long ends inside the CD Drive area or even behind the motherboard tray.
 
Not like it will give you temps of that degree's but clean the fan from all the dust for a start.

Wobble the heatsink around a bit..make sure its getting a proper connection, then, phone your mate up and tell him to come refit it or diy...it isnt hard, reapply thermalgrease too.

Oh and i though my wires was a mess lol
 
My wires are all bunched up away from the MB, fine and dandy but if I want to remove a HDD its quicker to buy a whole new computer :D
 
Sweet merciful crap! Get out a vacuum, be very careful, and suck the dust out of the fan/heatsink!! Has that heatsink been recycled from a pervious computer or something? I've never seen one so covered in dust! Dust blocks airflow, dust on the blades makes a fan less efficient, dust insulates thermally, and dust facilitates the buildups of electrostatic charges: DUST IS YOUR ENEMY!

You need to get some of those wires out of the way too. At least some of them you can shove up in the 5.25 inch drive cage.

LOL at "Dust Collection Unit" btw. :D
 
I agree, get rid of the dust and get those cables under control, and if that doesn't work, have your friend make sure the CPU HSF is 1) capable of cooling your processor (it looks like a HSF from one of my old Durons, but I haven't bought a retail processor since so I dunno what the XP's look like) and 2) on there correctly (seated correctly and without too much/too little thermal paste/PCM).
 
That hsf seems fine its basically the same one that came with my fx-53. But goddamn man, that is one ****in mess. My jaw literally dropped wide open when i saw that. Clean that up and fast!
 
Well, Athlon64's use less power guinny.
Do you have the PC butted up against something? The air needs to have room to get out. At least a foot away from the wall or back of a desk.

Many motherboard sensors report higher (10-20C +) temps for safty reasons. The bios and the desktop programs read that sensor.
Personally, I would take off the side and run your PC for awhile. Touch the heatsink.
It's going to be hot (could be just warm though) but how hot. If it is just hot then your temps are probably wrong. If it's burning then they would probably be true. ;)
 
Asus said:
Well, Athlon64's use less power guinny.
Do you have the PC butted up against something? The air needs to have room to get out. At least a foot away from the wall or back of a desk.

Many motherboard sensors report higher (10-20C +) temps for safty reasons. The bios and the desktop programs read that sensor.
Personally, I would take off the side and run your PC for awhile. Touch the heatsink.
It's going to be hot (could be just warm though) but how hot. If it is just hot then your temps are probably wrong. If it's burning then they would probably be true. ;)
My asus probe is 10 degree's lower than it actually is. I've got used to reading 42C as 52C now (just picked that number cause its what the cpu is after a long game of morrowind heh)
 
Fenric said:
My asus probe is 10 degree's lower than it actually is. I've got used to reading 42C as 52C now (just picked that number cause its what the cpu is after a long game of morrowind heh)
Do you have an actual temp sensor under the CPU that is going to an LCD?

There is a CPU sensor and then there is a Socket sensor. Some boards only have one.
 
To clean out your computer easily, buy a can of compressed gas at any electronics store. That is a lot safer than using a vacuum to clean out your computer. :LOL:

Once you clean it out, check to make sure all of your fans are still working. You should also try to make sure your 9800 Pro is dust free to.

As for the heatsink, it looks stock so it should be perfectly normal. Unless you added your own thermal paste to the heatsink/processor.
 
Its just asus probe likes to change its mind all the time, each version I've used will give a different temp, usually around 10C out from what the BIOS says. Looking on google its apparantly an old problem/joke with asus probe. Only mentioned it cause of your name reminding me :D
 
I've got a CPU sensor and a Case sensor... I'm guess they're both on the mobo (gigabyte GA-7N400L, because I haven't bought anything extra.

BUT OKAY!

It seemed that my computer could stand a bit of cleaning... I took the fan off the heatsink to find that the heatsink was nearly coated with dust! I had a great pic, but my wife decided to use the 15 minutes it took me to clean it off to clear out all the pictures from the camera. Thanks babe! I had to use q-tips so that I could get everything up. The rest of the case is still fairly dusty, but I'm going to need some compressed air to get all that up, which leads to my next question:

How do I keep everything from getting so damn dusty? Are there air filters I can get for the intake?

Cleaning that heatsink off seemed to help, my CPU temp is now reading 64... which is still high I guess but not catastrophic.

"after" pic: www.ShreveportVotes.org/misc/heat/after.htm
 
There are airfilters at most computer shops that are atleast a bit more specialized then normal ones, I have two 120mm metal fan filters for my radiator intake and exhaust, and one 80mm filter for my casefan.
 
That does seem a bit hot for an Athlon, but a 20 degrees decrease is really good.
 
blahblahblah said:
To clean out your computer easily, buy a can of compressed gas at any electronics store. That is a lot safer than using a vacuum to clean out your computer. :LOL:
Yes, very true.

DreamThrall, that looks a lot better. A drop of 21 C is pretty significant, wouldn't you agree? I don't think there's a whole lot more you can do without spending some money. One thing you could take care of is that yellow ATA cable. Often you can find ingenious ways to fold them that resolve the air flow concerns. If the heatsink has been applied poorly, it might be possible to drop a few more degrees by fixing it. Beyond that I think you'll need a more efficient CPU cooling setup to get it any better. That doesn't necessarily mean louder, in fact it might mean quieter, but either way it means money.

What is your case/MB temp btw?
 
I just realized something. 85C is the thermal damage point for XP Processors. I would download and run prime95 to see if there was any damage to your processor.

Don't mean to freak you out, but I would really check for that. Mostly likely, your temperture sensors were lying to you, but I would run a quick Prime 95 test (1 hour/2 hours) to make sure your computer is okay.
 
When ever I service someones computer I always take the fan off from the heatsink and remove dust.
Always a lot of dust almost like moss. hehe

It's a lot easier to use dust filters covering the intake fans. Just remove and clean once a month and I'm good to go. Very little dust on the inside of my case.
 
DreamThrall said:
CPU is running at 66C now... case is 38C

Did you take the heatsink off and clean it off then reapply thermal paste and mount it again? Is that the stock AMD heatsink fan(I've never had a stock one, always bought oem)? You could probably get a better HSF if that is the stock one.
 
Abit sensor's are 100% true.

The thermal probe i manually put on the cpu die for my thermaltake case LCD screen show the exact same as my mobo sensor does. Maybe 1 degree difference here and there every now and again.
 
Did not remove the heatsink... and it is a stock AMD heatsink and fan - I bought the retail box.

By the way, I did the Prime95 test:
"Torture Test ran 2 hours, 38 minutes - 0 errors, 0 warnings."

*phew!*
 
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