My older Bro just got back from Iraq

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My family is very happy that he is back. He has been gone for over seven months. Please dont turn this into a f*** Bush and the war. He was just a guy doing his job.

Anyone elce have family thats in the war? Ill post some pics that he took soon.
 
How is he? I bet now he knows not to take regular things for granted (like TV or PS2 ) :)
 
He hates tv and ps2. :) So far he eats chips whenever he can. Over there the chips are tomato flavored.

Ok heres a dir of pics. Ill build a web site later.

Linky
 
Nice, love that picture with AK-47 :)

How old is he? And how old are you?
Also, what is he saying about Iraq? I bet he hated that god-forgotten place.
 
Hes 26. Im 21.
He didnt hate it but he didnt love it over there. He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there. He watched two coke venders shoot each other because one guy got the other guys spot. The kids need help. They had mercy pratrols(they would go out and give,water,food,medical aid and candy to the kids and older people) well they lost funding for candy so the kids got mad and would through rocks and glass bottles the troops.

The cities are nasty dirty places. The worst slums in America are better than the best places in Iraq.
 
Originally posted by thenerdguy

He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there.

Anyone else see the irony in this?



The cities are nasty dirty places. The worst slums in America are better than the best places in Iraq.

Just because you said "Please dont turn this into a f*** Bush and the war", doesn't mean you should get away with anything.

This reeks badly of narrowminded ethnocentricity.
 
When I started reading the post I really felt happy for you, it's nice to see that people get home. I don't support war at all, but I wasn't intended to start a "f... Bush flame" but...

He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there.

My god, I hope it was only a quote your brother said, and that you don't think that way... don't you think there are people of every kind everywhere? Don't you know that many innocents also do have aspirations in this life or at least want to spend it on something that makes them feel alright?

And your brother says that... I really feel annoyed... fortunately I know all Americans aren't this way :|
 
Originally posted by thenerdguy
Hes 26. Im 21.
He didnt hate it but he didnt love it over there. He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there. He watched two coke venders shoot each other because one guy got the other guys spot. The kids need help. They had mercy pratrols(they would go out and give,water,food,medical aid and candy to the kids and older people) well they lost funding for candy so the kids got mad and would through rocks and glass bottles the troops.

The cities are nasty dirty places. The worst slums in America are better than the best places in Iraq.

some of the stuff u said he said makes me not care at all that be came back...
"He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there" just a stupid selfish thing to say. i am surprised someone who served in the army would say such a thing, this is crazy!!


"He watched two coke venders shoot each other because one guy got the other guys spot." stuff like that happens in WAR FREE America all the time, ....

The cities are nasty dirty places. The worst slums in America are better than the best places in Iraq, cos thats how they want it do be is it? dam those dirty scum bags.....

oh yeah and god bless the all power full USA with their nice guns, world power, totally disposable consuming lifestyle, and great environmental records. They are the best!!! Nuke the rest of the dirty world
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Thanks a lot for sharing the pictures mate, I look forward to the rest! :)
 
Originally posted by mutt
some of the stuff u said he said makes me not care at all that be came back...
"He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there" just a stupid selfish thing to say. i am surprised someone who served in the army would say such a thing, this is crazy!!


"He watched two coke venders shoot each other because one guy got the other guys spot." stuff like that happens in WAR FREE America all the time, ....

The cities are nasty dirty places. The worst slums in America are better than the best places in Iraq, cos thats how they want it do be is it? dam those dirty scum bags.....

oh yeah and god bless the all power full USA with their nice guns, world power, totally disposable consuming lifestyle, and great environmental records. They are the best!!! Nuke the rest of the dirty world
!

Hey why dont you go over there and get shot at for a few months and see how you would feel. He didnt litterly mean nuke the place. He thinks that the war could have been done differntly so that more people wouldnt die. The life exptancy over there is 20 to 25. disease and shootings have been slowed down by the us and its better than it was when sadam was ruling. but its still very bad over there.
 
Originally posted by SpaNsK
When I started reading the post I really felt happy for you, it's nice to see that people get home. I don't support war at all, but I wasn't intended to start a "f... Bush flame" but...



My god, I hope it was only a quote your brother said, and that you don't think that way... don't you think there are people of every kind everywhere? Don't you know that many innocents also do have aspirations in this life or at least want to spend it on something that makes them feel alright?

And your brother says that... I really feel annoyed... fortunately I know all Americans aren't this way :|


sry for the off topic here but please. Dont u think his brother had a ruff time over there? He has seen people kill eachother and probably many other terrible things. I would say that would have a impact on people


So just lay off the bashing. Im very happy for you thenerdguy. Its great news and I hope your brother is ok. Dont lisen to this other people
 
I agree, i dont know half the stuff going on out there, but its unfair to put down their cities cos they are dirty.... its unfair to nuke a country cos of a number of bad people, ok if he didn’t mean nuke them, just handle it differently, that’s fair enough, guess i just didn’t see the way you meant it.

to say they have no regard for life is a bit bad, u sounded like you thought it was ok to kill them, cos they wont mind dying anyway.

just please don’t have the all American selfish "nuke the dirty scum" attitude, that so many ppl(not just Americans) seem to have.
 
wowyouareacow, I am also happy about his brother coming home, but I still can't share some ideas that some american people have. Now i'm said i should't take it literaly... wtf? I know how the US have behaved along history, and I don't mind my country (Spain) supported war. I was in many demonstrations held in my city against war.

Also, I know he might have had a hard time, but they're soldiers, it's their job, paid from taxes americans pay or from wherever they get the salary. they're supposed to be ballanced and not say things like those even joking. It looks outrageous to me. and sorry... I don't intend to start a flame, but I'm tired of seeing the same shit from the US all time. the country of power... money... the country which doesn't respect environmental agreements... and shit :|
 
Im not downing them. Im stating the facts. The cities are dirty.They dont know how to clean up they have never had a reason too. Did I rub it in there faces?
When someone shoots at you and tries to kill you its your right to fight back. Well guess what happened over there. He got shot at so he shot back. Ok the nuke quote i shouldnt have posted but in war you have to think about keeping your friends safe. Hes saw some pretty nasty thing and i wont post some of the pics. You dont really know whats its like to live in constant threat to your life and the life of your friends. Yes its his job to fight but dont down him because of it. Yes he believes that the war should have been done differnt. But whats done is done. You cant change the past.
just learn from your mistakes and go on. thats all you can do.

The part about no regard for life is true. Grownup people shoot each other over the smallest things because thats how they have lived for years. Im not downing them for it. The rest of the world was just like them a few thousand years ago. They dont know any other way of life.

I didnt mean to start a flame fest but im telling it like he told me.
 
They had no reason to be there.
Don't give me that 'Only doing their job' BS either, since when does working a job strip you of your morals?
 
war warps minds, i dont blame him for the things he said. and you guys are taking it too literal.
 
Originally posted by thenerdguy
Ok the nuke quote i shouldn’t have posted but in war you have to think about keeping your friends safe.

You have every right to post that. See that's one thing that's good about America "Freedom of speech and expression" I'm not saying we should nuke them, not saying that all. You do have the RIGHT to say what you will though if people like it or not.

I sometimes question our Right of free speech though. Rush Limbaugh makes one bad comment about a black QB and now the entire media is after him because of it.


Good to hear your bro came back safe.
 
I welcome your brother home, thenerdguy.

I rather not get into anything else, polictical issues give me high blood pressure.
 
my dad went to iraq a few weeks ago. He wont be back for a 4-5 months. He is a chief loadmaster for the C130's in the airforce and flys back and forth to bahgdad(or however its spelled). He told me in the email that they were shooting at his plane, unlike anything he expeirianced in desert storm. The only thing his unit had to fight about in desert storm was about who was buying the beer that night.

heres some pics>

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hang on, gotta host the pics.
 
Originally posted by SpaNsK
I don't intend to start a flame, but I'm tired of seeing the same shit from the US all time. the country of power... money... the country which doesn't respect environmental agreements... and shit :|
Well untill another country can step up and take our place you shouldn't say jack shit.Every country tries to get money and power.Including Spain.Anways back on topic.I'm glad your brother got home safe.Lets just pray that the other thousands of troops over there do to.
 
LOL, one of those original pics about the wall, some guy wrote, "We came, we saw, we never ****in left"
 
Do u think America is the only country in the world who have free speech? It seems like that. Cus u keep bringing it up all the time. And free speech is just on the paper, u cant really say what u think and feel. Look at Micael Moore and the Dixie Chix they said they were against the war and everyone is booing and make jokes about them, call the terrorists n shit.

Well i respect your brother, and the other guys father for being a soldier. They dont make the decitions, so dont blame the war on them. Its that "¤%"¤"¤ Bush.
 
Originally posted by h00dlum
Do u think America is the only country in the world who have free speech? It seems like that. Cus u keep bringing it up all the time. And free speech is just on the paper, u cant really say what u think and feel. Look at Micael Moore and the Dixie Chix they said they were against the war and everyone is booing and make jokes about them, call the terrorists n shit.

Well i respect your brother, and the other guys father for being a soldier. They dont make the decitions, so dont blame the war on them. Its that "¤%"¤"¤ Bush.

Your right...you will get arrested if you run into a church screaming "Jesus is a cock sucker"

I found out the hard way.....



lol, actually i didnt...but you will still get arrested.
 
Yea because you were disturbing the peace and of course since that is private property and you did that they have the right to call the cops.Now if you go into a public place and do something like that you won't get arrested.
 
Originally posted by Ridic



lol, actually i didnt...but you will still get arrested.

heh :cheese:


Glad that your borther made it home safe. My cousin came home about a month ago.

:cheers:
 
You do have freedom of speech in America actually. Rush Limbaugh is a dumbass, and he said dumbass things. The media then crucified him. The governemnt didn't have a hand in it, it's all in the hands of the public. If you say something stupid, and I then call you an idiot - that doesn't mean you don't have free speech, although it means your probably an idiot :p . However, if the government were to arrest you for saying something like that then you would not have free speech.

Anyway, congratualtions on your brothers safe return. I hope theres a lot more stories like yours and we can get our soldiers out of that hell hole as quickly as possible.
 
Do u think America is the only country in the world who have free speech? It seems like that. Cus u keep bringing it up all the time. And free speech is just on the paper, u cant really say what u think and feel. Look at Micael Moore and the Dixie Chix they said they were against the war and everyone is booing and make jokes about them, call the terrorists n shit.
Can I even begin on how stupid this is? Freedom of speech does not deny others the freedom to express their opinions about your opinions. I mean all of you asses on this forum jump all over his brother for saying it would be better if they would have nuked the place. THAT IS HIS OPINION AND YOU JUMP ON HIM FOR IT! YOU are suppressing free speech just the same as they do then if that is how you define it by what the hell everyone agrees with. I agree with him for expressing his damn opinion regardless of whether you like it just as you may like the dixie chicks for expressing anti-bush statements. I mean jesus don't be such hyprocrits everyone, you don't look as much the part of a moron if your beliefs work with eachother.


Originally posted by thenerdguy
Hes 26. Im 21.
He didnt hate it but he didnt love it over there. He said that it would have been better if they nuked the hole place. People dont respect life over there. He watched two coke venders shoot each other because one guy got the other guys spot. The kids need help. They had mercy pratrols(they would go out and give,water,food,medical aid and candy to the kids and older people) well they lost funding for candy so the kids got mad and would through rocks and glass bottles the troops.

The cities are nasty dirty places. The worst slums in America are better than the best places in Iraq.

Damn straight in my opinion. I believe those who hold no respect for life do not deserve life. If you would freaking understand what he meant you wouldn't think it was hyprocritical and not just take it at face value.

Also everyone says "America is only rich because they exploit the environment."... uhh DUH. What do you think the benefit is of having a land rich in resources? Prolly the same reason why would you get a job that pays 50,000 a year over 10,00 at the same amount of work. The point is not every country has the same capabilities because they do not have the same resources, you cannot exploit a barren desert to gain profit. That is kind of how the whole global economy works you know? And then someone says oh they have it dirty because they like it that way? Yea I'm sure you can go over their and they will just protest their love for basking in grime and having their children die from disease, and then someone sides with you calling america "babykillers" I mean honestly if you think they aren't upset about their children dying from disease but you think they would be upset for being killed by humans is a tad odd isn't it? I mean sure they are brainwashed with the whole hate america thing and would make a bigger deal out of it, but they wouldn't be caring more about their child out of any honest sympathy.
 
Wouldnt you be pissed to if you gave a 3 year old kid a candy bar only to watch the kids father hit the kid and shove him to the floor then take the candy bar and eat it in front of the kid. well that happened severial times.
The only respect that they have is if your bigger and have a gun.
 
Maybe someone sat down on the ground and had to fart really bad?
 
Originally posted by Aethaecyn



The point is not every country has the same capabilities because they do not have the same resources, you cannot exploit a barren desert to gain profit. That is kind of how the whole global economy works you know?

Er, Iraqi citizens live over the 3rd largest known oil reserves in the world. If they had a government that used these resources to the betterment of the people, the Iraqi population would be living much as the Saudis do now - extremely well, in other words. I know you're trying to make a different point with your post, but you need to pay a bit more attention to facts while you're at it. For the most part though I agreed with you.
 
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