N00b Question Incoming (SDK)

[Kamakiri]

Ok. What does SDK stand for and what will exactly be in it? Would i be able to create something and actually play it? Why are Mod teams so excited over it?

 

[dawdler]

Software Development Kit: Contains the raw c++ files used to build the game... Meaning we can edit EVERYTHING.
The map editor will probably be separate though.

 

[Kamakiri]

So a MOD team that knows c++ very well can get a really good head start with the SDK. He can do everything EXCEPT create maps?

 

[dawdler]

Yes, basicly.

 

[Gordon'sFreeman]

thats crap. i want to make maps

 

[Feath]

Doesn't the Orginal Half Life SDK come with Hammer?

This change log covers changes and additions made to the Half-Life SDK, starting from version 2.2.

version 2.3 - Oct 03 2002

* Updated single-player and multiplayer source
- Ricochet source (w/multi-serve technology)
- New spectator features included with the 1.1.1.0 release
- New interface
- First-person mode
- Bug Fixes
* Updated server protocol information
* Valve Hammer Editor v3.4 (installer, not source)
* Missing cinematic files from v2.2 release

 

[Xtasy0]

Originally posted by Feath
Doesn't the Orginal Half Life SDK come with Hammer?

yes, but the HL2 SDK is coming out before the game, therefore if they included hammer they would be giving away a bunch of info regarding all the monsters, weapons, etc..etc, so they most likely won't include hammer when they first release it, but maybe when they get to version 2.3 years and years after HL2 has been released they will.. *shrug*

 

[Dile]

Originally posted by Xtasy0
yes, but the HL2 SDK is coming out before the game, therefore if they included hammer they would be giving away a bunch of info regarding all the monsters, weapons, etc..etc, so they most likely won't include hammer when they first release it, but maybe when they get to version 2.3 years and years after HL2 has been released they will.. *shrug*

The SDK will contain the new Hammer. Its a fact.

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Dile
The SDK will contain the new Hammer. Its a fact.

But it will be a stripped down hammer then, without textures and the workshop models. I dont beleive they would make such a stupid mistake to take away all surprise before the game is even released.

 

[DaLys]

I hope the new Hammer comes with the HL2 CD.

 

[Gordon'sFreeman]

Hammer will be included, come on face it, some people are just too stupid to get the maps to work, or they "cbf" doing it, so not many people will bother with it, me on the other hand lub making maps and want to start doing it asap. and how will MOD makers get there MODs out like 1 - 2 weeks after HL2 is released. maybe with 1 map, 2 even, if they try, but im hoping for the best

Originally posted by dawdler
But it will be a stripped down hammer then, without textures and the workshop models. I dont beleive they would make such a stupid mistake to take away all surprise before the game is even released.

what suprises?
giving out the SDK before HL2s release is a suprise its self

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Gordon'sFreeman
what suprises?
giving out the SDK before HL2s release is a suprise its self

Yeah, well you are right, I just remembered something: All models and all textures are in HL2, not the SDK or the editor, stupid me. So we will get... Uhm... A stripped down hammer without the models and textures

 

[MadMechwarrior]

It would be the same SDK you would get if you bought a liscense of the engine to build your own game, so I dont think they would want HL2 content in every game they liscense the engine to...

 

[Xtasy0]

Originally posted by Dile
The SDK will contain the new Hammer. Its a fact.

can you post a quote or link to a source? last i heard on, VERC was that it WASN'T going to include Hammer.

 

[Dile]

Originally posted by Xtasy0
can you post a quote or link to a source? last i heard on, VERC was that it WASN'T going to include Hammer.

"The composition of the SDK has not been fully decided yet, but we plan on releasing tools and resources for all areas of modding."

Also, half of the official SDK FAQ on VERC is about the new Hammer, and all HL1 SDK-s have been released with Worldcraft/Hammer. I dont know a reason on why it wouldnt be in.

 

[commando]

i am gonna make a really gr8 sp level i have had in mind and planned on paper for hl2.

but when i have the map editor i will learn like the keys first then start hehe

 

[Adam]

Originally posted by Xtasy0
yes, but the HL2 SDK is coming out before the game, therefore if they included hammer they would be giving away a bunch of info regarding all the monsters, weapons, etc..etc, so they most likely won't include hammer when they first release it, but maybe when they get to version 2.3 years and years after HL2 has been released they will.. *shrug*

The code will provide you with the names and functions of all the monsters too.

 

[Dile]

Originally posted by commando
i am gonna make a really gr8 sp level i have had in mind and planned on paper for hl2.

but when i have the map editor i will learn like the keys first then start hehe

The new hammer will be very similar to previous (like 3.4) Hammers. If you can handle Hammer 3.4, then you shouldnt have any problem with the new one.

EDIT: acan -> can

 

[Xtasy0]

Originally posted by Dile
"The composition of the SDK has not been fully decided yet, but we plan on releasing tools and resources for all areas of modding."

Also, half of the official SDK FAQ on VERC is about the new Hammer, and all HL1 SDK-s have been released with Worldcraft/Hammer. I dont know a reason on why it wouldnt be in.

well the HL1 SDK wasn't out before HL1 either, but anyways, we will see when it gets released