NASA sts UFOs

those ufos are 'bits' close to the camera, when thrusters are used all sorts of little particles of ice etc are blasted around, there are constant thrusts to keep the craft stable so if bits seem to moving from different directions then that is why.
 
just don't presume them to be UFO's. It might be a number of things, why aliens?
 
UFO =/= aliens

A flying object that no one has any idea about what it is is called a UFO. Not a flying saucer.
 
The Brick said:
UFO =/= aliens

A flying object that no one has any idea about what it is is called a UFO. Not a flying saucer.
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yes i agree. but clarky meant extraterrestrial beings, not some objects.
 
I have no idea what they could be either, but it's quite easy to understand if you try to think of phenomena universally, using this theory that relates all the forces as different osillations of EM waves rather than being seperate from each other. The objects are hard to properly explain outside of them being highly quantised objects and you can't deny that in the STS 80 footage they appear to behave intelligently.

Ok so these are the main points why they are irregular phenomena of interest anyway, despite wanting to believe that they can be explained away by debris or blurred objects.

It's clear they are not blurred or out of focus debris as they clearly pass behind the tether.

They are distinctly different in shape from a fuzzy or blurred light source or object, having a definable groove and a hollow center.

They are not bound by the earths gravitational pull unlike debris and meteors

They pulsate at regular intervals that match the patterns of quantised wave forms

They change state of emissitivity

They gather in patterns and match the speed of the space shuttle.

They can accomplish great speeds.

All this behaviour suggests they have a power source natural or unatural.
 
clarky003 said:
I have no idea what they could be either, but it's quite easy to understand if you try to think of phenomena universally, using this theory that relates all the forces as different osillations of EM waves rather than being seperate from each other. The objects are hard to properly explain outside of them being highly quantised objects and you can't deny that in the STS 80 footage they appear to behave intelligently.

Ok so these are the main points why they are irregular phenomena of interest anyway, despite wanting to believe that they can be explained away by debris or blurred objects.

It's clear they are not blurred or out of focus debris as they clearly pass behind the tether.

They are distinctly different in shape from a fuzzy or blurred light source or object, having a definable groove and a hollow center.

They are not bound by the earths gravitational pull unlike debris and meteors

They pulsate at regular intervals that match the patterns of quantised wave forms

They change state of emissitivity

They gather in patterns and match the speed of the space shuttle.

They can accomplish great speeds.

All this behaviour suggests they have a power source natural or unatural.
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look clarky...i agree they are strange and that they need to be thoroughly analyzed.

but why the hell the first thing you presume are Aliens. it could be a number of things.

listen, i somehow believe you are a curious person, that believes in science. thats great.
but why do you keep throwing such for most of the part "nut-ish" ideas.

those flying things are definitely aliens, or believe the greatest power source can be made use of some cheap plastic vaguely explained device some guy that doesn't even resemble a scientists.

why don't you go the correct way and learn some math, make some experiments, post some results. why do you believe on other peoples words, people who have no credibility.

for Einsteins sake, do something about it if you are so intrigued by it. Stop using fancy words. Do something to earn your credibility.

How in hell am i suppose to believe some guy made an overunity device by watching a music video of it working.

If it was so easy to make such a device there would surely be some school who isn't under a great influence of a lobby that would mention something credible.

Why would so many countries spend billions upon billions of dollars or EU to make prototypes of some energy sources that can be substituted by some 20$ cardboard device. Even countries that are not under a great influence of an oil lobby (Sweden for example).

Most things you believe in possibly exist in some form, but you are completely going into them form a wrong direction.
 
Where have I actually said that I believe they are ET's.

And I just enjoy the debate on it here, it doesn't mean I have to go out and fetch one of these things, but it's no secret that the greatest power source is right under our nose in the form of vacuum energy and it's also no secret that nature utilises this energy every single nano second of every day to keep itself running.

It's only our definition of what energy is that has us chasing tails to try and understand what is happening and howto create setups that lock the natural process into producing extra amounts of EM energy from the vacuum.

Economic factors, not understanding or updating theories properly with what we have learned since 100 years ago, and a lack of unified theories are exactley why we invest in hot fusion and nuclear fission.

Primarily the economic factor is what drives it, because if everyone was extracting the potential energy from electrons in a conductive material at the cost of one battery a life time, (when your creating a situation in a circuit where your battery isn't being destroyed by the electrical current it's inducing, you have a near endless supply of EM energy being created in the wire, through the electron, from the vacuum) then every large energy institute wouldn't have much power over it's people from the lack of energy dependance.

So again it's not hard to see why it would be a catalyst to economic change. The present power structure of certain elite cartels on the planet does not sit fondly with the idea on the line of research into vacuum energy for simple reasons.

Since the people with the most money tend to be in big energy and banking cartels (both of which depend on systems of populace dependance), you'll find that they are the most significant contributors to the government, and hence the most significant contributors to fund large budget science institutes. That funding can only be obtained if the security of the cartels future remains intact, so by protecting their own interests in this way of credit superiority science cannot go too far 'out of the box' economically. They wouldn't recieve the funding otherwise, hence the complete lack of publicity and encouragement of public government research into 'out of the box' technology like vacuum energy devices, despite the presently advanced scientific knowlege.
 
Must be aliens....who have nothing better to do than travel millions of light years and fly around earth....they must have teenagers...

:thumbs:
 
clarky003 said:
Where have I actually said that I believe they are ET's.

And I just enjoy the debate on it here, it doesn't mean I have to go out and fetch one of these things, but it's no secret that the greatest power source is right under our nose in the form of vacuum energy and it's also no secret that nature utilises this energy every single nano second of every day to keep itself running.

It's only our definition of what energy is that has us chasing tails to try and understand what is happening and howto create setups that lock the natural process into producing extra amounts of EM energy from the vacuum.

Economic factors, not understanding or updating theories properly with what we have learned since 100 years ago, and a lack of unified theories are exactley why we invest in hot fusion and nuclear fission.

Primarily the economic factor is what drives it, because if everyone was extracting the potential energy from electrons in a conductive material at the cost of one battery a life time, (when your creating a situation in a circuit where your battery isn't being destroyed by the electrical current it's inducing, you have a near endless supply of EM energy being created in the wire, through the electron, from the vacuum) then every large energy institute wouldn't have much power over it's people from the lack of energy dependance.

So again it's not hard to see why it would be a catalyst to economic change. The present power structure of certain elite cartels on the planet does not sit fondly with the idea on the line of research into vacuum energy for simple reasons.

Since the people with the most money tend to be in big energy and banking cartels (both of which depend on systems of populace dependance), you'll find that they are the most significant contributors to the government, and hence the most significant contributors to fund large budget science institutes. That funding can only be obtained if the security of the cartels future remains intact, so by protecting their own interests in this way of credit superiority science cannot go too far 'out of the box' economically. They wouldn't recieve the funding otherwise, hence the complete lack of publicity and encouragement of public government research into 'out of the box' technology like vacuum energy devices, despite the presently advanced scientific knowlege.
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if an advanced civilisation were present and travelling the cosmos they would be using highly quantised technology and changing the frequency of matter in order to conquer the vaste distances.
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you were certainly implying.




first of all, you again made speculations. partially is true, but what you are saying is not entirely possible. there are country's much more open to alternative power sources and i guess they'd put some money into it. or maybe some university making research.

all we have now are some hicks doing some stupid ass videos and plans that resemble my drawings when i was 4 years old.


but you are still missing the point. the problem lies in you and your way of preaching this stuff.

currently i believe that you know shit nothing about what are you saying besides those fancy sentences you read on wikipedia and other questionable sites. so please prove yourself to understand the mathematical background of it all.
what is your personal background are you a physicist, what university do you attend, do you read physics book in your spare time. anything!?!?

because right now i think you're some 17 year old paranoid kid, that is fascinated in free energy stuff and visits weird sites to gather information and skips all the important parts which you do not understand. and have no whatsoever advanced understanding of physics besides the bits and pieces you gathered trough the years.

once you prove to me you know what you are talking, then i might consider in partially believing you.

sorry but music videos of overunity device just won't cut it.
 
Implying definately isn't the same as saying.

And lol, I'm nearly 23 actually and I study this material in my spare time from about 10 university books on quantum mechanics and particle physics that I managed to grab a hold of, and it's the only thing that fits perfectly and makes sense in terms of unified field theory to me. My position is that simple.
 
clarky003 said:
Implying definately isn't the same as saying.

And lol, I'm nearly 23 actually and I study this material in my spare time from about 10 university books on quantum mechanics and particle physics that I managed to grab a hold of, and it's the only thing that fits perfectly and makes sense in terms of unified field theory to me. My position is that simple.
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ok that fairly rises your credibility a bit. just a bit, because you have to prove that you understand what you read. then you have to explain your theory with some mathematics. make detailed experiments and show your results.

then i'll probably consider that you know what you are talking.

just stay away from crappy videos and idiotic pages. they just destroy your reputation and credibility.

personally i'm all for alternative power sources, weird phenomena, alien beings. but your way of telling this stuff looks so not scientific. please take a more realistic approach in researching this stuff.
 
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