Ne1 else think the combine model looks a little dated?

You guys are missing my personal favorite.

Linky

The amount of detail in that shotis astounding. Not to mention I've noticed the Souce Engine does have dynamic shadows in the leaked "Beta", a feature absent in this year's E3 videos. Maybe Valve is holding back something about the graphics.
 
the pic the thread opener guy posted .. i saw it ages ago.. but i bet most of you did also.. look at the model on the left of gordon .. his right leg isnt even touching the ground.. look at the shadows.. im not even convinced if its a real screenshot. anywho


not gunna act all biased towards hl2 against doom3 or anything.. but hl2 has the better physics.. and models' facial animation is imho the best touch ever to a game.. erm .. storywise .. no comment on that one (obvious). doom3 environment might look nicer tho.. but will that engine .. you would need a radeon x9999999 xt pro platinum 1337 version to run an outdoor level as big as hl2's

-spoot

edit: forgot to mention. .. doom3 models look like chewtoys
 
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
 
Pitbul said:
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
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serious??
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Pitbul said:
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
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I don't get your logic.

I don't like how Doom 3 looks fake. Like people have said, the shading on Doom 3 is blatant and in-your-face. "Look! I'm rendered!"
I'm working for a Doom 3 mod, and one of the first things the team is planning is to tone down the effects to make them more natural.

Half-Life is subtle, like reality. Prefering subtlety is not 'wrong'.
 
Pitbul said:
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
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There is so much wrong with this, it burns my eyes :dozey:

#define doom3 FAKE

:LOL:
 
DOOM 3 is technically better looking. No one can deny that.

However, which is more aesthetically pleasing to you is purely subjective.

DOOM 3 isn't made to look realistic, it's based in the future and so, it looks futuristic (shiny == future). Half-Life 2 is meant to be roughly in our time and also in our world.
 
Pitbul said:
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
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I don't know why you haven't been banned yet. I thought the admins warned you a while about being a tool to everyone else on the forum? Anyway dude, if somebody thinks HL2 looks better, let them. I agree with HybridM, its a matter of personal taste. Also i agree with you, Pitbul,when you say Doom 3 looks better, but only in lighting effects and normal mapping. Everything else just looks cartoony.

Besides i'd rather have some high-polygon characters with some normal mapping then lower-polygon monsters completely covered with normal mapping. I got sick of that effect in Far Cry
 
Isn't graphics all about realism though? To me it is, and so when I see HL2 looking more realistic than Doom 3 I think to myself that Half-Life 2 looks much better.

I have no doubt that if someone has the inclination, somebody could make something that looked as fake and shiny as Doom 3 in the Source Engine, just Valve haven't decided to go that way.

The only real way to tell which engine is more advanced, is to see what modifications have came out of them in a couple of years time, and how they look.

The proof of this can be seen just by looking around today at the HL mods, all the popular HL mods look MUCH better than the original Half-Life, and many of them look better than anyone though imaginable when Half-Life was released.

People have to choose if they want to future of graphics to be photo-realistic, or just spinny, shiny, plasticy, look how heavily bump mapped I am graphics.

Edit: I guess if I was going to be unbiased, I wouldn't have said "just spinny..." Oh well ;)
 
Comparing screenshots of HL2 and Doom3 is not a great comparison. We all know HL2 looks 10x better in motion, and completly dominates when you compare the videos.
 
Actually i disagree with you phantomdesign. If you watch 2003's E3 video of Doom 3. In motion the game looks fantastic
 
Doom3 VS HL2!

It's such a great topic for discussion that, quite frankly, I'm suprised that no one's thought of it until now.
I'm really having a devil of a time picking a favorite, though, and I might just have to buy both games to be sure. What a predicament!



:afro: 1st week in August, place your bets :afro:
 
lol, ^^^ sarcasm detected, wheres badge when you need him :rolleyes:

Pitbul said:
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
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wtf that was harsh... :O,

Half life 2 has a crisp realistic looking feel, suited for its gameplay

Doom 3 is a totally different game, more suited to a harsh unrealistic shadowing system that sets up for applying mood and pure scaryness,,

your all mad, acting like preteens, 'my games got bigger balls than your game'

ludicrous, there both entirely different, the only friggin thing they have in common is the fact that its first person perspective.

rant over.
 
wasnt the combine sitting on a Horse on that pic??????.....someone checked it up any of u guys remember??!?!
 
Of course that screenshot wasn't taken on a low spec computer or low settings. Why would Valve release a officially screenshot taken from low settings/spec?
 
I for one just think it looks weird when there's Combine clones everywhere :) There's no way from telling a Combine from another.
 
c0ltM4a1 said:
wasnt the combine sitting on a Horse on that pic??????.....someone checked it up any of u guys remember??!?!
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Yes...the combine was sitting on a horse.

.....
 
looking at the height, more like a my little pony. You know those ones with purple skin and pink hair!! And owowow little silver stars on its butt!
 
Alec_85 said:
Hehe yeah that horse-picture was hilarious ;)
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Is that teh horse that Gordon and his Combine lover ride off into the HDR sunset on? :smoking:
 
I can't see what's wrong with that picture. It looks fine.

Remember folks, most of you will play through HL2 with crappy graphics, since your computers suck.

left of gordon .. his right leg isnt even touching the ground
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I honestly think it looks as if he's strafing, not "floating".
 
screenshot discussions always suck, games cannot be fully realised in a screeshot anymore. Plus anyone that thinks that they would let a bug like that slide isn't really thinking now are they. Plus the guy next to him has his feet matching the ground so it would be an unusual bug if it only applied to one of the two guys. PLUS the combine is obviously on the move anyways so he would have to have raised his leg.
 
Silent_night said:
do u think that the combine model looks a litle dated
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I know at least three women who have dated the Combine model. It gets all the chicks. :rolleyes:
 
Harryz said:
Of course that screenshot wasn't taken on a low spec computer or low settings. Why would Valve release a officially screenshot taken from low settings/spec?
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I hope that if the specs of the computer were up to par that the graphic settings were turned down for some reason. It doesn't make sense from a marketing standpoint to release ass ugly screenshots when the game could look much better, we've all seen it, developers will ramp up the resolution to 1600x1200, 8xAA, 16XAF, all settings on Ultra High... and then take screenshots of their game while its running at 3 FPS on the most current gen hardware. I have games over a year old that with those settings bring my P4 3GHz, 1GIG DDR, 9800XT computer to its knees. I surely hope that all the screens released thus far are not running a high resolution, I don't play too many games with much if any AA or AF on because my resolution is high enough to hide most jagged edges, AF depends on the game, sometimes with everything so sharp as far as you can see in the game makes it hard to aim as the textures are so much clearer its hard to pick out the models you need to aim at :) I would love to see some really high res screens taken from the current build of HL2 that really show off how amazing the game will look! Most of the E3 2003 Bink videos looked great, and I know it will only look better now... I hope they don't optimize it to the point that they start taking out cool effects or high resolutions for those that have the power to enable them, I know they said it would be highly scalable but if you take a look at the Valve Half-Life 2 Hardware Survey you will see that many people still have a below average gaming computer when compared with the power of say X-Box. The reason I love PC games is because console systems can't touch the power of good modern PCs... I really wish Dell would stop selling Celeron Processors and on-board Intel graphics cards and 256MB of Ram for the whole system but that’s another rant all together...
 
I honestly cant see anything inconsistant or abnormal with the shot shown in the orriginal post....

I mean look at it really.... It has the same building textures as we have seen, the same tree models and textures, the same (high res) wall texture we have seen and a fair amount of polygons on the ground....

Purhaps... this is just speculation. But the character textures look maybe slightly lower res than previously seen....


But still.... its not really worth a thread with this many pages lol.... :p
 
denlife7 said:
Is that teh horse that Gordon and his Combine lover ride off into the HDR sunset on? :smoking:
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I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see won't we? ;)

nw909 said:
Hahaha, funny thing is; some people belived that.
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Well you can't really say that it looks BAD :)
Edit: If you don't care about the fact that the horse only consists of a torso + a head that is :D
 
dunno how to quote posts.. but the guy who said that the guy looks like he's strafing.. to me it more looks like the guy is standing on a horizontal surface

anyway besides that ...

what i would really like.. more than super shiny water screenshots and pretty smoke blabla on full graphics.. is a screenshot of the game running in medium details mode .. seriously.. would like it more than any e3 video

anywho .. doom3 isnt my style but i might dow... buy it anyway.
 
Pitbul said:
Doom 3 >HL2 in graphics, easy. nuff said. no questions or answers if you dis-agree your wrong and in D-E-N-I-A-L so shut up fanboys. you disgrace HL2.
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Wow thank you, took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't even know why I bother looking at these forums, I mean the lack of intelligence is overwhelming... You guys have to honestly think without bias - Doom 3 is a MUCH better looking game. "Ohhhh Doom is too shiny, HL2 looks more real" - Yeah okay, you keep thinking that.

Get your heads out of your asses, I am waiting for HL2 and and am expecting to love it just as much as I loved the first game, but I know for a fact that it's graphics are already starting to be dated - all of this will not matter to me, seeing as I'm not wasting money on a computer when my car is so much more fun...

Either way, Doom was meant for looks, get over it.
 
InFeRnO said:
Wow thank you, took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't even know why I bother looking at these forums, I mean the lack of intelligence is overwhelming... You guys have to honestly think without bias - Doom 3 is a MUCH better looking game. "Ohhhh Doom is too shiny, HL2 looks more real" - Yeah okay, you keep thinking that.

Get your heads out of your asses, I am waiting for HL2 and and am expecting to love it just as much as I loved the first game, but I know for a fact that it's graphics are already starting to be dated - all of this will not matter to me, seeing as I'm not wasting money on a computer when my car is so much more fun...

Either way, Doom was meant for looks, get over it.
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That's arguable. Doom 3 certainly has technically better lighting effects, but I am of the opinion that they were not as well implemented as they could have been. It looks like they've set everything at max. The fact that many people find that unpalatable shows that it is a matter of opinion.

From a technical standpoint, Doom 3 wins.
From an artistic standpoint, I say HL2 wins.
Valve has done more with less.

Plus, HL2 will be constantly updated through steam. If the lighting is not Doom-level now, it will be. I have no qualms with the Doom engine, but I don't like the way id applied it to the game as much as I prefer HL2's implementation of source.

In the end though, it's personal opinion. People may not agree with me, and they may not agree with you.

You should get over that.
 
Let's just say that before anyone even knew about HL2, I was a Doom 3 fanboy. Now, goodbye Doom 3, hello HL2.
 
no man, we need to play this game first to make any judgements. :\
 
Esquire said:
hah, that soldier on gordon's right looks funny with his legs so close together and his knees slightly bent
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And with so many toilets everywhere... ;)
 
InFeRnO said:
Wow thank you, took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't even know why I bother looking at these forums, I mean the lack of intelligence is overwhelming... You guys have to honestly think without bias - Doom 3 is a MUCH better looking game. "Ohhhh Doom is too shiny, HL2 looks more real" - Yeah okay, you keep thinking that.

Get your heads out of your asses, I am waiting for HL2 and and am expecting to love it just as much as I loved the first game, but I know for a fact that it's graphics are already starting to be dated - all of this will not matter to me, seeing as I'm not wasting money on a computer when my car is so much more fun...

Either way, Doom was meant for looks, get over it.
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Well thank you for telling me what to think. Silly me to believe that I can form my own opinion on stuff. But of course not, that's your job!

I think HL2 looks better than Doom 3 does, I also think STALKER looks better than Doom 3 does. It's called an opinion, you can't argue with taste. So either accept it or f*ck off.
 
no man, we need to play this game first to make any judgements. :\
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we are not worthy of Judgement. HL2 is so intelligent , the AI will judge us :O
 
I think i can settle this...
*Calls Up Gabe*
So gabe you like pie?
Gabe: Why yes i do!


Ok, that settles it HL2 is better because gabe likes pie.
 
Steam + Half-Life 2 + Mods = PWND T3H D00MZOR 3!!!
 
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