Need a new mouse

[G(ordon)-man]

Hell, my mouse costed 10 dollars and it is made by "X-point", probably somekinda chinese company. But it is...good.

 

[The Brick]

Depending on what surface you like to play on (hard or cloth), any of those mice will do. The deathadder is the most comfortable for most people. But as I explained, you'll need a proper surface to go with that, especially on medium or high sensitivities. You should also look at the mx518 from logitech. It's the cheapest and probably the best option for you.


edit: forgot to mention that the deathadder will work on OSX. http://www.equk.co.uk/blog/2008/06/26/deathadder-mac-os-x-drivers-out/

 

[Escaep]

Depending on what surface you like to play on (hard or cloth), any of those mice will do. The deathadder is the most comfortable for most people. But as I explained, you'll need a proper surface to go with that, especially on medium or high sensitivities. You should also look at the mx518 from logitech. It's the cheapest and probably the best option for you.


edit: forgot to mention that the deathadder will work on OSX. http://www.equk.co.uk/blog/2008/06/26/deathadder-mac-os-x-drivers-out/

Yeah my mouse rests directly on the counter top surface. I have never really used a mouse pad before but i added the exactmat to my wish list. I saw on Razor's website where it says the Deathadder will work with OSX, but as far as the Lachesis is concerned does it work at all? Or does it work but lacks all the nifty features? Having the mouse work on OSX is really not a big concern as i have the wireless apple mouse but it sucks major balls. What genius decided to make a one click mouse with no right click?

Also, does the (almost) twice as much DPI make a noticeable difference? I am not a hardcore gamer i really only play COD4 and Far Cry 2. I also never really compete, though i would like to.

 

[The Brick]

As far as I know and can find, out of those 3, only the deathadder is directly supported by razer. The lachesis works without the side buttons, but they can be used with a program called SteerMouse (it's $20). I think this will be all the functionality you'll get out of it. The lachesis, like the copperhead, is a try-before-you-buy mouse as well. It's focused on competitive performance, and might not be comfortable for the average gamer. It's also more expensive (especially with steermouse).

The deathadder will work utterly perfectly on an exactmat. The feet on the deathadder are quite thin though, which sometimes causes the bottom of the mouse to hit and scrape the mousepad. If that's a problem, it can be solved by using custom feet. They're only a few bucks and will improve the feel of the mouse.

I can't think of any reasonable argument to argue that a DPI higher than 2000 will be of more use to anybody. Actually, I would recommend against that. The reason for that has to do with the windows mouse speed. If it's not on default, the input of the mouse is quite garbled. And with a DPI above 2000, the cursor is uncontrollably fast at the default mouse speed (cursor speeds go up linearly with higher DPI resolutions, without losing precision). This only affects people who really need a high performing mouse though. The razer drivers do allow a much better adjustment to the cursor speed.

Also, a sensor with a 2000+ DPI resolution will be limited by the mouse surface in most cases.

But I don't think this really applies to you. You're on OS X and don't seem to need perfect mouse performance. I think a deathadder + exactmat is the best option for you.

 

[Escaep]

As far as I know and can find, out of those 3, only the deathadder is directly supported by razer. The lachesis works without the side buttons, but they can be used with a program called SteerMouse (it's $20). I think this will be all the functionality you'll get out of it. The lachesis, like the copperhead, is a try-before-you-buy mouse as well. It's focused on competitive performance, and might not be comfortable for the average gamer. It's also more expensive (especially with steermouse).

The deathadder will work utterly perfectly on an exactmat. The feet on the deathadder are quite thin though, which sometimes causes the bottom of the mouse to hit and scrape the mousepad. If that's a problem, it can be solved by using custom feet. They're only a few bucks and will improve the feel of the mouse.

I can't think of any reasonable argument to argue that a DPI higher than 2000 will be of more use to anybody. Actually, I would recommend against that. The reason for that has to do with the windows mouse speed. If it's not on default, the input of the mouse is quite garbled. And with a DPI above 2000, the cursor is uncontrollably fast at the default mouse speed (cursor speeds go up linearly with higher DPI resolutions, without losing precision). This only affects people who really need a high performing mouse though. The razer drivers do allow a much better adjustment to the cursor speed.

Also, a sensor with a 2000+ DPI resolution will be limited by the mouse surface in most cases.

But I don't think this really applies to you. You're on OS X and don't seem to need perfect mouse performance. I think a deathadder + exactmat is the best option for you.

Alrighty thanks. About the OSX--i have Windows on a separate partition on the same computer so whenever i want to game i switch over to it. Looks like i will be going for the deathadder as well.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Unfocused]

I'm happy with what I'm reading here. I chose the Deathadder on impulse as a Christmas present for myself. I was asked what I want for Christmas and couldn't really think of anything that I would need, that would be at a reasonable price. While shopping for gifts for others I noticed a pile of Razer mice and remembered that my Creative Mouse Optical 3000 is on it's way out, losing connection to the PC and requiring reconnecting quite often, so I thought it might be time for a new mouse.

So out of a few models I chose the Deathadder. Looking forward to seeing how it performs. Never had a 'gaming' mouse. The prices have dropped from what I see - I think gaming mice used to cost twice as much a few years ago and I thought they were overpriced so I didn't consider them.

 

[bam23]

i use an mx518 and a $5 mouse pad from office depot and i couldnt be happier with them. i can't get used to these so-called high performance mouse pads. all hype imo.

 

[The Brick]

Whatever floats your goat, but it's a tad different for the Deathadder, as I explained. It's very picky on a proper surface before it works as well as it can.

 

[Mellish]

I don't see the point in getting a fancy mouse. The ?5 here works perfectly well.

 

[Escaep]

I got the Deathadder and it is amazing! So much more comfortable and smooth feeling than a generic mouse. I really haven't tried it out on gaming yet but it is amazing!

 

[DEATHMASTER]

I don't see the point in getting a fancy mouse. The ?5 here works perfectly well.

Unless you've tried one, you will never know the difference.

 

[Ennui]

I got the Deathadder and it is amazing! So much more comfortable and smooth feeling than a generic mouse. I really haven't tried it out on gaming yet but it is amazing!

It might take a few days of getting used to when it comes to gaming. I got mine over the summer during a particularly intense CS binge period, and I definitely had some trouble adapting at first (I was hurt by the new mouse)... but after a couple of days I was doing better than before. The Death Adder is the first time I've bought a mouse for more than $5 in my life, and it actually improved my gaming skill a bit because it allows significantly more precision.

 

[ríomhaire]

My mouse is only slightly bigger than my thumb. It's super-portable! But kinda awkward to use.

 

[Escaep]

It might take a few days of getting used to when it comes to gaming. I got mine over the summer during a particularly intense CS binge period, and I definitely had some trouble adapting at first (I was hurt by the new mouse)... but after a couple of days I was doing better than before. The Death Adder is the first time I've bought a mouse for more than $5 in my life, and it actually improved my gaming skill a bit because it allows significantly more precision.

Do you use a mousepad? Right now i am using it directly on the counter top surface so i don't know how much that will hinder me. I was thinking of getting the eXactmat if they have it at Best Buy (both my parents and my sister got me a headset so i am going to return one of them.)

 

[Unfocused]

I got the Deathadder and it is amazing! So much more comfortable and smooth feeling than a generic mouse. I really haven't tried it out on gaming yet but it is amazing!

I'm liking mine as well, though I don't find it that much better than my previous Creative mouse

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And if I didn't try it out on gaming, I don't think I would notice a difference really. But in games (CS:S and BF2) it did feel like I had more control and firmer movements. Still go to find the most comfortable sensitivities now.

I'm thinking of staying at the 125Hz polling though. I noticed that on 1000Hz and even on 500Hz moving the mouse causes a drop in FPS (like 50 to 35 fps). I wouldn't have noticed this if I wasn't looking at the fps counter, but still. And in Windows CPU usage rises from a few percent to about 70% when I'm moving (ie. drawing circles) the cursor. I've got a single core 2,8GHz CPU though, maybe this doesn't matter on multi-core CPUs.

edit: And I just drew something in paint. Left to right: 1000Hz, 500Hz, 125Hz. Notice how 125Hz turned out the smoothest. Conclusion?

 

[The Brick]

Well, could be a few things. The high USB clock might take too much cpu and that distorts data (I doubt it and I'm not even sure if that can happen at all). Or maybe it doesn't track well on whatever surface you're using it on, and the low usb rate might be just smoothing it out (more likely). Do a few more tests to see if it's a tracking problem or a usbport related issue.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Even if one of those things is the case, couldn't they be alternatives to a gaming mouse? (assuming it would work as well at those speeds)

 

[Escaep]

Bump.

I figured since I now have a good quality mouse I have been wondering if I should get a mousepad to get the best performance. I've never really used a mousepad before so I really don't know what to look for. I returned a Christmas gift to Best Buy last week and in turn got a $30 gift card. I browsed for a while but I truly could not find anything that I wanted. I was thinking Fallout 3 but I already have two new releases and I am also lacking hard drive space. I was hoping Best Buy sold the eXactmat since they sell other Razer gear but they don't--the only mousepads they have are Rocketfish and Allsop. I was leaning towards the Rocketfish since it seems geared more towards gaming with a control side and a speed side. It has also gotten pretty good reviews.


Thoughts?

 

[Dynasty]

Right now im using a Logitech G5 gaming mouse, it just feels right. It has this...coarse, cracked skin on the outside which makes it super grippy, and the USB cable is covered in a rope-like material on the outside.

Its just completely robust, and you can control 5 adjustable mouse sensitivity settings with literally 2 buttons on the top, one for up, one for down. Works in-game, so you can ramp up the sensitivity to zoom around the map, then slow it down when focusing in on one area.

Even comes with a box full of small weights which you add into a cartridge that slides into the mouse, for weight distribution...which is kinda gay and geeky but it allows you to set your own feel.

And im using a mousepad that has that gel mould lump for your wrist, SOOOOOOO damn comfortable, but alot of my friends hate it when they use my PC.

 

[G-Dub]

Been following this thread and am currently in the market for some upgrades.

I've decided on the Roccat Kone!

 

[Seagull]

I've went through 2~ G5s and about 4~ MX518's, none compared to the deathadder, the G5 has negative acceleration (means if you move your mouse really fast then it won't be as precise as it needs to be; however, if you have a sens that isn't really low like myself you won't notice this) and my MX518 cords kept dying within 3-4 months, had my deathadder for about 1.5 years now and it's perfect.

Had a steelpad before, after about 2.5~ years of gaming the most used portion of the mousepad got eroded and got VERY reflective. My deathadder would flip out if I went up there, so I had to avoid that portion of my mousepad. After a few months I got this random mousepad from bestbuy and it works fine on it.