Need atheist response

[Kangy]

Look, there will never be an answer either way, unless I'm dead. Then I will be dead, and therefore dealing with a slightly bigger problem. So, to put it bluntly, I do not know, nor do I care.

Any reasonable god would accept that there's way too many religions and arguments for me to ever decide on "his" corner anyway, so I doubt that it'd mind so much even if I don't care.

 

[Krynn72]

But when I don't believe in god and therefore not follow these rules I will still be punished (according to the scriptures). The majority of rules Christianity sets out however are rules that I created in my own mind long ago, I don't need a governing force or a belief in a higher and truthful being for me to follow them. I consider it a great strength of my character (even though this may be the most natural thing to do for humans) that I create most of my own principles and stick to them despite a complete lack of negative consequences for not following them. I believe many Christian rules to be correct, I just don't believe it is possible for a higher power to have created a set of rules that all are expected to follow and not call it some for of government.

I hate being a follower but at the same time I don't want to be a leader. I don't believe in Christianity not because I ever resisted it's teachings but because I have determined that I simply have no reason to believe. I am a good person so I don't feel the desire to have these rules governing me. Also I am somewhat of a scientist at heart and I know the history of many religions and of the rise of Christianity in particular, that coupled with a lack of evidence are my reasons for not believing.

I realize however that these rules whether created by a higher being or by humanity itself are needed. I guess this is one of the reasons I hate being a follower but I also don't want to be a leader. I hate how it is a necessity of humanity that to keep order we must have rules, we must have the threat of punishment and often we must limit ourselves or at least move painfully slow because of these rules. Once again however I know they are needed.

Just because I am bored, tired, and stressed from exams I guess I will end my posting tonight with this: You are correct, I do reject society. Not in the way however you see 'goths' or 'emos' do. I want to be my own leader, I want nothing to govern me but I also don't want to govern anyone else. In society such a situation is impossible and is one of the big reasons I have often dreamed about abandoning civilization altogether. I often feel like I don't want to support civilization in any way shape or form but at the same time I don't want to take anything from it. The only way that is possible is to cut myself off from the rest of the world and live somewhere in the wilderness. A lot of people actually find that as a somewhat exciting thought.

Holy crap. You stole my views!! I seriously am the same exact way as you. Im not kidding. I think the same way about religion (as something that govern's people's actions, when they have no principles of their own to adhere to) and society (in that I want to be independant, with no relying on, or support from others, and no one relying on me.)

And I also am bored, tired and stressed out from exams lol.

and a completely off topic note.... Ova's posts always take me forever to read because of his hilarious avatar.

 

[CptStern]

the Mullinator is always stealing other people's views ...pretty soon I wont need to post my opinion (conservatives everywhere cheer) any more I'll just link to this

 

[Captain M4d]

Now I'm guessing that everyone can agree that Santa Claus, leprachauns, and flying purple rocks don't exist. But how can that be justified if we don't know all that there is to know?
I haven't studied logical fallacies at all, but isn't that an Ad Hominem argument?

 

[Muffin Man]

I'll bet anyone a million dollars there is no god.

ok heres what we do, kill yourself and if there is a god i get the cash, and if not you can keep it

 

[el Chi]

Now I'm guessing that everyone can agree that Santa Claus, leprachauns, and flying purple rocks don't exist. But how can that be justified if we don't know all that there is to know?
I haven't studied logical fallacies at all, but isn't that an Ad Hominem argument?

el Chi <3 Captain M4d.
In a manly, totally NON-gay way. Unless... :naughty:

 

[Captain M4d]

el Chi <3 Captain M4d.
In a manly, totally NON-gay way. Unless... :naughty:

Sorry, I'm taken. ;(

 

[el Chi]

Blast.
Erm, I mean... Erm... Nah gays are sick. Like all other homophobes, I'm totally straight. Complete red-blooded male homophobe who never thinks about cock. Ever. No sireee.

 

[Ennui]

Atheism is merely the refusal to blindly place faith in a God who has no reason to exist. We do not deny his existence totally (that'd be stupidity), we merely state that we are fairly sure there's not one and go about our lives.

 

[Danimal]

^ Qft...

 

[Jintor]

Why is denying his existance stupidity?

Although i agree with your definition of Atheism, Ennui.

 

[The Monkey]

I'm an Agnostic, not an Atheist.

 

[Maxi]

I'm neither an atheist or an agnostic or a "beliver". I just don't care. I don't go to church, I don't do "atheist" or "agnostic" things, I celebrate christmas and easter, but not for religious reasons and not for non religious reasons. I celebrate those events because they are.