*Need Information and Pictures for Half Life Bestiary*

In the list, see how you've put the "enter" after each letter - try putting the enter before the letter instead. Might look better.

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Some things you might want to add:
-Joe (the guy in Route Kanal, that lives in a cargo container with a Vortigaunt).
-Matt (the guy in Route Kanal that helps you fight the manhacks with a piece of a pipe).
-Combine Thumpers.
-Since you have other vehicles on your list, you may as well add: Black Mesa Jeep, Black Mesa Transit (the tram at the beginning), Black Mesa Rail Cart (type 1) - from On a Rail, Black Mesa Rail Cart (type 2) - at the very start of Apprehension.
-If I remember correctly, the military had some more vehicles. They were the Flatbed Truck and the Jeep.

Some things on your list that are the same:
-Holo Assistant = Gina Cross
-Spore Launcher = Race-X Shock Trooper (baby version)
-You also have Combine Transport Train and Combine Razor Train. They're the same right? Razor Train is the technical name anyway.

Some minor corrections:
-You have Dr. Einstein, Albert on your list. Note that he is not THE Einstein. Valve just gave him that nickname because he looked like him.
-You should put City 17 Citizens instead of just Citizens, because Citizens could be referring to any citizens at all. You could also put down the different types of citizens (e.g. Downtrodden, Medic, Rebel, Ammo supplier etc). You've done the same thing for the human grunts (eg. medic, engineer etc).
-I don't think DOG has the hyphens in his name (D-O-G)
-You've put Breen down as "administrator", yet he is also referred to as "Doctor"
-Maybe you should put the characters with titles in the alphabetical group of their last name instead. So, for example, "Dr. Freeman, Gordon" would go under "F", rather than "D".
 
Ok

In the list, see how you've put the "enter" after each letter - try putting the enter before the letter instead. Might look better.

Ok, i did.

-Joe (the guy in Route Kanal, that lives in a cargo container with a Vortigaunt).

Done

-Matt (the guy in Route Kanal that helps you fight the manhacks with a piece of a pipe).

Done

-Combine Thumpers.

Done

-Since you have other vehicles on your list, you may as well add: Black Mesa Jeep, Black Mesa Transit (the tram at the beginning), Black Mesa Rail Cart (type 1) - from On a Rail, Black Mesa Rail Cart (type 2) - at the very start of Apprehension.

Done, though i'll include both rail carts in the same entry.

-If I remember correctly, the military had some more vehicles. They were the Flatbed Truck and the Jeep.

Done, already had the jeep.

-Holo Assistant = Gina Cross

She modelled it, both have different goals and achievements.

-Spore Launcher = Race-X Shock Trooper (baby version)

Proof of this?

-You also have Combine Transport Train and Combine Razor Train. They're the same right? Razor Train is the technical name anyway.

Took out transport train.

-You have Dr. Einstein, Albert on your list. Note that he is not THE Einstein. Valve just gave him that nickname because he looked like him.

Ok found his real name and gave it to him.

-You should put City 17 Citizens instead of just Citizens, because Citizens could be referring to any citizens at all. You could also put down the different types of citizens (e.g. Downtrodden, Medic, Rebel, Ammo supplier etc). You've done the same thing for the human grunts (eg. medic, engineer etc).

Done.

-I don't think DOG has the hyphens in his name (D-O-G)

Removed them.

-You've put Breen down as "administrator", yet he is also referred to as "Doctor"

He was a doctor, he's an admin. now.

-Maybe you should put the characters with titles in the alphabetical group of their last name instead. So, for example, "Dr. Freeman, Gordon" would go under "F", rather than "D

Done for all characters with titles.
 
Sfc_hoot's right about the shoct troop babies. I think it could have been the model file that stated it, but the fact you feed them spore grenades, and both creatures spit them out as an attack proves it to me.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Ok

Ok changed the Spore Launcher to 'Shock Trooper, Juvenile'

Any more suggestions anyone?
 
Here are some more things that never made it into the game (if you want to put them up):

-Muddy (original form of the Ichthyosaur).
-Mr. Friendly.
-Sacktick (a macro virus).
-Tripod Hopper (weird thing that looks like... well, let's not get into that right now).
-Stampeder .
-Alien Fauna (thing that looks like a plant version of the kingpin).
-Combine Synth Elite Soldier (big thing that looks like a shock trooper).
-Combine Alien Soldier (Combine soldier with no legs, but a snake-like tail instead).
-I.A. Latham (seems to be some kind of assassin).
-Metro Cop Elite.
-Odell (he was the captain of the Borealis).
-Skitch (an alien pet that Alyx was supposed to have).
-Citizen Child (they were scrapped for some reason. Someone found a picture of one from the leak though on another forum).
-Waste Scanner (was supposed to fire missiles at Gordon, during Route Kanal and Water Hazard)

... from Raising the Bar. Hope I haven't done something too bad. :( We're allowed to post stuff from it on the forums, just not scanned pages, right?

Oh, and the normal metal scanners that the Combine use are called "City Scanners" Maybe you should put that up.
 
-Muddy (original form of the Ichthyosaur).

Since it was replaced by the Icthyosaur, possibly with a mere name change i don't think we should include it.

-Mr. Friendly.

Got him down as 'Xenian Whip Beast'

-Sacktick (a macro virus).

May have it under another name, what does it look like?

-Tripod Hopper (weird thing that looks like... well, let's not get into that right now).

Same as above.

-Stampeder .

Also same as above.

-Alien Fauna (thing that looks like a plant version of the kingpin).

You mean the whipping plants on Xen. i have them.

-Combine Synth Elite Soldier (big thing that looks like a shock trooper).

Done.

-Combine Alien Soldier (Combine soldier with no legs, but a snake-like tail instead).

Done.

-I.A. Latham (seems to be some kind of assassin).

Any more info about him or pics of him? I'll add him though.

-Metro Cop Elite.

Do you get elite metrocops? Any pictures? I'll add anyway.

-Odell (he was the captain of the Borealis).

The what? When do you meet him? I'll add him.

-Skitch (an alien pet that Alyx was supposed to have).

Better leave it out, it was suceeded by DOG and can't be Alyx's pet now since it can't fit in the storyline anymore.

-Citizen Child (they were scrapped for some reason. Someone found a picture of one from the leak though on another forum).

In the changed storyline, they were all killed by the Combine. I'll add anyway, as long as you have pics and on the assumption some are still alive.

-Waste Scanner (was supposed to fire missiles at Gordon, during Route Kanal and Water Hazard)

Done

Oh, and the normal metal scanners that the Combine use are called "City Scanners" Maybe you should put that up.

Scanners is fine, city scanners is too literal a name.

I will add the ones i asked questions about, but i need info about them.
 
'Alien Fauna' is a generic term Valve used to describe the large number of Xenian beasts that didn't make it into the game, nor get named.

The Children were cut from the game from an early stage because people were too tempted to shoot them (back before they had Civilian Invincibility), and that'd have made the game rating go up to an 18.

The Sackticks, from what I've read, seem to have been replaced by Headcrabs, as they were originally going to be launched via canister onto Civilians.

-Angry Lawyer
 
I read in the book the reason the children were cut is because the Combine are trying to stop all urges, including the urge to reproduce. With no reproduction, there are no children (page 171 in "Raising the Bar" AL).

Also, if you are trying to make a list, check out the bok "Raising the Bar." It whas everything you are trying to do, I think.
 
Pictures of these only exist in Raising the Bar, which can't be scanned:
-Sacktick
-Tripod Hopper
-Stampeder
-Alien Fauna
-I.A. Latham
-Metro Cop Elite
-Odell (the Borealis was an ice-breaker ship, scrapped though)

So you might have some difficulty with those. You should add them anyway, since you've added other creatures that never got past the concept stage.

Check this thread out. This guy found some pictures from the leak:
http://www.hlfallout.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28796&st=0&#entry493512

Other corrections:
-It's Shephard not Sheppard (check his footlocker in Boot Camp for proof).
-You still have Xenian Roach on the list. :p
-You should add Xenian Thumpers to the list (you see Vortigaunts operating them during Interloper).
-There are theories that G-Man also works for the resistance now, so you might want to add the resistance sign in parentheses.
 
Pictures of these only exist in Raising the Bar, which can't be scanned

Can anyone draw them? I don't live in America so i can't get raising the bar unless it's through EBay oe something, i'll try though.

-Tripod Hopper
-Stampeder
-Alien Fauna
-I.A. Latham
-Metro Cop Elite
-Odell (the Borealis was an ice-breaker ship, scrapped though)

So you might have some difficulty with those. You should add them anyway, since you've added other creatures that never got past the concept stage.

Check this thread out. This guy found some pictures from the leak:
http://www.hlfallout.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28796&st=0&#entry493512

Thanks, very useful link.

Other corrections
-It's Shephard not Sheppard (check his footlocker in Boot Camp for proof).

Woops

-You still have Xenian Roach on the list. :p

Woops again

-You should add Xenian Thumpers to the list (you see Vortigaunts operating them during Interloper).

I'm sure those were also set up by the Combine (who had taken over Xen blahblahblah)to keep the Antlions on Xen away, explaining why you don't see any in HL1.

-There are theories that G-Man also works for the resistance now, so you might want to add the resistance sign in parentheses

Woops yet again
 
Antlions? In Xen? :x I don't think Antlions are from Xen. Compare them to the other Xenian creatures. They share no similarities. They don't looks Xenian. Antlions are probably from another alien planet.

And I don't think the Xenian Thumpers are actually thumpers, as they don't actually pound the ground, but go inside the ground instead. They might be there to extract ores or minerals or whatever. :p
 
The 'Xenian Thumpers' don't have any form of Combine markings on them, nor are they actually creating any form of 'thump' (HL1's technology could actually represent the thumping that the Combine thumpers create). Like Sfc_Hoot stated, they seem to be some kind of mining equipment.

However, I tend to think of Antlions as Xenian, although that's only because there are no other categories they can fit under.

And the way the Vortigaunts in the single player game seems to know how to extract Pheromones cleanly from the corpse suggest they've had past experience with them.

Avoid leaked pictures - they're unsafe to use.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Yes!

I'll add the new beasties you listed tomorrow, by the way i ordered Raising the Bar, 24 hours delivery time!

I won't scan the pictures, for i do not wish to have my ass sued out my mouth 'till i crap money, mostly for information and sketch making.
 
Raising the Bar - best book... ever....really. A must have for any HL2 fan, new fan or diehard.
 
that page is a good idea

I am making a miniproject that is creating my own Xen wildlif based on the concepts of Valve and stuff

so your page will be very usefull

EDIT: ad what if you draw the concept art of the book?
that can be illegal too?
 
Sketching

No i don't think sketch making is illegal, fanart is not illegal while scanning is straight ripping of Valve's design and writing.

About the Antlions coming from Xen- There aren't mnay other places where they could come from, apart from through the portal storms, i doubt they could evolve in 10 years and judging from the Combine's precautions and hostility, i doubt they were engineered. I think the thumper you see on Xen are to keep antlions away, explaining why you don't see any. Maybe it also serves as an ore extractor at the same time?

P.S Adding stuff this evening

P.S P.S Getting RTB this evening

P.S P.S P.S Making pictures for all HL Creatures and some of the cut HL2 ones.
 
I still vote on them being mining tools.

From the looks of it, Xen is some form of Nebula, with a large mass in the centre. Notice you can fall off the edge of the planetoids, and fall downwards.

Something's gotta be making the gravity. Perhaps there's a larger world at the centre?
And, with the number of possible rocks (considering Freeman only visited the smaller ones), there are large chances that the Antlions existed upon a larger planetoid.

-Angry Lawyer
 
busybusybusy

Ok i downloaded the HL2 MV and i'm ripping pics from the HL1 MV, Still waiting for summaries and pics.

P.S New avatar i animated! Neat, eh?
 
Sorry, haven't written my summaries yet. Been too full of beer these last few days.

I'll get them done when I'm sober.

-Angry Lawyer
 
It's Okay

S'Okay, no need to rush these things, i get drunk on any liquid known to man.
 
That'd be great!

That'd be great, could you send it to me as an .htm file?
 
Wilsonator, will you make a separate .htm page for every single entry or will you use some kind of database system? I think it'd be easier to make it using a database. It saves a lot of work, because that way you only end up making one page, and the database changes the page to display information from it about a certain entry (e.g. Antlion). It's better than having something like 200 separate .htm pages. Plus, with a database, if you ever end up changing the design of the page that displays the creature information, you'd only have to do it once, instead of changing the design of 200 pages. :x
 
Database eh?

I am intrigued, tell-a me more about-a this date-a-base.

(How do i make one?)
 
lol. its php and mysql i think hes talking about.
i have the exact same idea in my head.
making new website now..

btw making a database, the pages would have to be php so you would have to find a webhost with php. i currently have one and if i dont use all the space i might be able to host there.

it had unlimited bandwidth too which is good.

and i was also thinking of implementing a search page.

you type a few words into a search field and press search and it will come up with all the things that have those keywords in their description.

also im thinking of making a categories thing, where you will be able to click a category and all things listed in that category are showed.
implementing both these things would make it MUCH easier to search what you are looking for. ;)
 
hey Wilsonator, I use only AIM or YIM, and Id really like to help you on with your site. I own the Half-Life Official Guide which I think would help since it includes bestiaries and when first sighted etc.
 
I remember I built a site a long time ago, and I used Cold Fusion with a Microsoft Access Database. Yeah, anyway, databases are cool for things like searching, displaying catagories (eg, you could only display entries from Xen), ordering (the viewer might want to have the entries in race-groups, rather than alphabetical groups) and generally things like that.

And yeah, I'll tell you more about how the database works with an htm file. For example, you'd only have one htm file with the fields in it, things like "name", "picture", "description" and so on. Now every time you click an entry, the fields on that htm page will change to display info about that entry. However, if you don't use a database, you'll have to make a separate page for every single entry. Now, say you want to change the look of your entry page. For example, you want to display the faction before bio. You'd have to change that on every single htm page, but with a database, you only have to change it on that one page, and then automatically, everything will be updated.

I have Microsoft Access, so once you have all the information, I could put it together in an Access database for you -- that's if you choose to use an Access database.
 
access databases are usually for a small ammount of people and not meant for high usage... but anyway...

i created a new site. Its a 20 minute job, if you like it tell me and ill get a shortURL for it like hlbeastiary.vze.com or something.
(not **** sucks :)) anyway heres the link --

http://freehosting.hostrave.com/p/sathernut/hlb/index.html

Give it a slap. Not all the links work yet as im just creating this to see if you like it. if not, ill make a better one. Although i think its best not to have a really graphical site because of how large the site is in the first place. k.
ive got access but ive never bothered trying to work it...
 
Fantastic. Now all we need is some way of viewing the Database stuff.

-Angry Lawyer
 
i didnt bother to read all the posts. can someone tell me in short what this is all about? :p :afro:
 
I think the icons should be updated. They should all be the same size (eg. 30x30px). It doesn't look that good in the list when you've got icons of all kinds of different sizes. Example:

icons18jy.gif

(Not very professional!)

Also, when representing the groups/races, I think it would be a very good idea to use the actual game's symbols, rather than your own. This way the reader of the site will be able to make better connections to in-game content. Example:

concept14kr.jpg

(Just a very basic image showing some of the game's icons. I'm sure someone can do a far better job than me.)

Just a thought that I had. You can stick to your own icons if you like.
 
I agree with sfc_hoot, it's better to use the in-game symbols.

The one thing that confuses me - what would Xen's symbol be? It's difficult with me making an RTS without having a symbol to assign to one of the teams...

I love the Combine symbol. I might have to get it tattoed on to me.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
I love the Combine symbol. I might have to get it tattoed on to me.
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Nice idea. :cheers:

As for Xen's symbol, someone who's not lazy should vigilantly replay the Xen levels - maybe catching a glimpse of some kind of symbol somewhere, because as far as I can remember, Xen doesn't have a symbol to represent it.
 
i like the site cant wait till the bios come up. one thing though, you forgot vortiguant slave.
 
Super Mega Question Answering time, GO!

CtFootninja- Any chance you could get MSN? I can't really use any other IM program, maybe an online chatroom, i have the bestiary guide and Raising the Bar, so i'm not in too much trouble there but you could write summaries of you want.

SFC_Hoot- Ok once we're done with the bios you can place them in a database, (by the way, is Microsoft Acess compatible with all browser?)

One the subject of icons- I think that's a good idea, can anyone get the faction symbols from both games, the ones that don't have them we can keep the original icons (i made up the Xen one by the way, but i think it fits nicely.)

Sathernut- Neat, i especially like the logo! ):D That's a great design, looks nice and easy to update and loads quickly, maybe a different creature montage, but most likely after we're done.

We should add a Contributer's section as well as the summary writer's names attached to the Bio's when we do them.

Oh and by the way, do you know the password access to your account on the site (Your's) host? I could save the htm.'s and edit them without screwing aboiut with HTML, of which i have only basic knowledge, You could PM it to me.

Ghost_Assassin- I think it's better to put Vortigaunt slaves under Vortigaunt, since they are essentially the same, and i have the faction change symbol on it, so there's no need, but feel free to infrom me of left out creatures, i found a bunch more in RTB.
 
SFC_Hoot- Ok once we're done with the bios you can place them in a database, (by the way, is Microsoft Acess compatible with all browser?)
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If we choose to do an access database, though. There might be a better database system out there designed for websites. Let's wait to hear some more opinions - I'm not sure if Access is the best, but it's the only thing that I can think of right now. And yes, access should be compatible with all browsers.

i have the bestiary guide and Raising the Bar, so i'm not in too much trouble there but you could write summaries of you want.
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Just make sure that you put stuff into your own words, as those books are copyrighted.

One the subject of icons- I think that's a good idea, can anyone get the faction symbols from both games, the ones that don't have them we can keep the original icons (i made up the Xen one by the way, but i think it fits nicely.)
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The only symbols that I know are: Resistance, Combine and BMRF. As for the other icons, they'll either have to be made up or someone will have to search thoroughly through the game. If you choose to make an icon up, I guess you'd have to do something that is strongly related to that faction, e.g. a shock roach rifle in a circle for Race-X. Or a pair of night-vision goggles for the BlackOps. Just some silly ideas. :p
 
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