Neo-Nazis arrested planning to assassinate Obama

[The Monkey]

The vast vast vast majority of civilians killed in Iraq is thanks to all these jihadists from surrounding countries sneaking in and blowing up bombs in markets and on buses. The US and the West has nothing to do with those and saying we do just shows how uninformed you Europeans are regarding the war...

Yay for generalization. The US and its allied failed to take into account the sectarian realities when choosing to invade the country, and the policies post-invasion has done nothing to try to improve the conditions based on the reality in Iraq. That is that there are two religious groups, the Shiites and the Sunnis, who cannot work together as a unity. The invading powers acted as if Iraq was a homogeneous nation-state with a strong national identity, which isn't the case. The only way to have a long-time peace there is to establish two separate states, and the current policy by the Bush administration is not aiming for that goal, but instead trying to hold together a country with a population without any form of nationalistic traditions, and thus no structures at which to build a common state.

 

[TwwIX]

Might as well add to the off topic pile.


There will never be any stability in that region unless we put another dictator to rule those people. Either that or split the country into two. Split it into two,minimalize the troops and let UN do the peace keeping. The "Surge" is a joke. It's waste of lives and billions of dollars.
Occupying that country is only going to make it worse. Not that the US government gives a shit about that anyway. Don't worry though. Once we have exhausted all those natural resources there we'll be outta there in no time.

 

[Ridge]

1. The Surge DID work, and has since ended and troop numbers there are declining as we send units home.
2. We havent touched a single drop of their oil since the invasion, so shut the hell up about that. They are selling it to other countries at a great profit, but we havent bought or taken so much as a barrel...

Go back to Berkely...

 

[TwwIX]

1. The Surge DID work, and has since ended and troop numbers there are declining as we send units home.
2. We havent touched a single drop of their oil since the invasion, so shut the hell up about that. They are selling it to other countries at a great profit, but we havent bought or taken so much as a barrel...

Go back to Berkely...

You are the prime example of what's wrong with this country. You naively continue to swallow and digest the bullshit that they're shoveling down your throat. Sad,really.
It's "Berkley" by the way. And no thanks. Unlike you,i have already been educated in Europe. :dozey:

 

[Ridge]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination. Please tell me how going from hundreds of Coalition soldiers dead per month down to 7 deaths per month is a failure?

 

[lefty]

Nazis is de craaaziest peoples.

 

[Eejit]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination.

:dozey:

Baseless ad hominem attacks, **** yeah!

 

[Jintor]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination.

Are you some kind of idiot? How can you just handwave away the education system of a multitude of countries as 'indoctrination'?

 

[speedbump]

Shouldn't the new National Socialists actually be 'for' Obama... ?

Among the siezed WW2-docs released so-far by The Kremlin-archives, show lists of prominent German military-n-civilians that Hitler wanted to eliminate after the war.... For eating meat, drinking alcohol, and smoking tobacco. -Sound familiar ? The liberally-motivated health nazi's in New York City, banning all oil-fried foods from restaurants, building-restrictions on fast-food restaurants in so-designated 'minority'-neighborhoods in Los Angeles... and other copycat 'obesity police' tactics thru-out the US.

Plus the Dems tried to censor pop-music lyrics in the 80's (Tipper Gore), and now the Obama/Biden camp are censuring WFTV 'n every other reporting-outlet who poses tough questions to them (the LA Times 'sitting' on the Obama/PLO fund-raising story).

The truth is: Don't trust anybody that appears to care more about you than you do.

 

[Llama]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination. Please tell me how going from hundreds of Coalition soldiers dead per month down to 7 deaths per month is a failure?

Well, firstly, where are those statistics from?

Also, go to hell.
The sad thing is my poor, pathetic, european mind that's suffered from this 'indoctrination' is able to understand things and make logical connections that seem utterly beyond you.
For example, I wouldn't dare be ignorant enough to denounce all european education as a single style using indoctrination.

(The supreme irony, perhaps, is that you speak in the manner of someone who has fallen foul to this - baseless accusations, an inability to make substantial counter arguments, etc)

I hope you'll reply to this, I'm sure It'd give me a laugh or two....but I doubt it.

 

[CptStern]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination. Please tell me how going from hundreds of Coalition soldiers dead per month down to 7 deaths per month is a failure?

all you've done is maintain the previous status quo prior to 2006-2007 when there was a huge increase in coalition casualties in some cases tripling those of the previous years.. and that reduction in casualties hasnt even been attributed to the surge ..by all accounts the surge was seen as a failure despite what some pigheaded republicans claim

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2432438.ece
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_/ai_n19293782
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=19568&prog=zgp&proj=zusr
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1364760.ece
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070613203802.7yla5iav&show_article=1
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2007/08/2008525142845306682.html

incidentily while coalition casualties have been going down (relative to the increase of the year before) coalition casualties in afghanistan have been increasing as is civilian casualties

Shouldn't the new National Socialists actually be 'for' Obama... ?

Among the siezed WW2-docs released so-far by The Kremlin-archives, show lists of prominent German military-n-civilians that Hitler wanted to eliminate after the war.... For eating meat, drinking alcohol, and smoking tobacco. -Sound familiar ? The liberally-motivated health nazi's in New York City, banning all oil-fried foods from restaurants, building-restrictions on fast-food restaurants in so-designated 'minority'-neighborhoods in Los Angeles... and other copycat 'obesity police' tactics thru-out the US.

Plus the Dems tried to censor pop-music lyrics in the 80's (Tipper Gore), and now the Obama/Biden camp are censuring WFTV 'n every other reporting-outlet who poses tough questions to them (the LA Times 'sitting' on the Obama/PLO fund-raising story).

The truth is: Don't trust anybody that appears to care more about you than you do.

what the hell is this nonsense? comparing the democrats to nazis? can we suspend new membership at least until a few weeks after the election? we've filled our quota for retarded we dont need more

 

[nurizeko]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination. Please tell me how going from hundreds of Coalition soldiers dead per month down to 7 deaths per month is a failure?

Its a failure because the minute America leaves the whole thing will unravel and become an Iranian playground.





As for European education, sorry mate, but no-one from a country that requires pledges of allegiance, and national anthems and a history curriculum that idolizes and worships your country's own at the expense of the whole world, cannot in any way accuse anyone else of indoctrination.


:thumbs:

 

[speedbump]

Prove me wrong, CptStern...

If it looks like the lyric-police, talks like the obesity-police, 'n walks like the franchise-police... it's the Thought Police.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

European education...there ya go...indoctrination.

Ah, attacking your opponent. The ultimate hideout for the coward.

 

[CptStern]

Prove me wrong, CptStern...

If it looks like the lyric-police, talks like the obesity-police, 'n walks like the franchise-police... it's the Thought Police.

the burden of proof is up to you ..not me

prove these statements by citing sources and examples:

Shouldn't the new National Socialists actually be 'for' Obama... ?

Among the siezed WW2-docs released so-far by The Kremlin-archives, show lists of prominent German military-n-civilians that Hitler wanted to eliminate after the war.... For eating meat, drinking alcohol, and smoking tobacco. -Sound familiar ? The liberally-motivated health nazi's in New York City, banning all oil-fried foods from restaurants, building-restrictions on fast-food restaurants in so-designated 'minority'-neighborhoods in Los Angeles... and other copycat 'obesity police' tactics thru-out the US.

Plus the Dems tried to censor pop-music lyrics in the 80's (Tipper Gore), and now the Obama/Biden camp are censuring WFTV 'n every other reporting-outlet who poses tough questions to them (the LA Times 'sitting' on the Obama/PLO fund-raising story).

The truth is: Don't trust anybody that appears to care more about you than you do.

prove there is a direct link between hitler brand fascism and Obama or stfu. Vague associations speak of transfer logical fallacies with a big dollop of strawman fallacy