New GTA SA screenshots.

Thanks, that's awesome. It sucks that it's gonna take months for this game to come out on PC.
 
For you maybe :LOL: But I went out and got a PS2 for it and killzone also crash and lots of other games :cheers:

But yeh i suppose it does suck cause sony have a 6 mounth exclusive to it :LOL: (I think) :eek:

But seriously if your a gta fan get a PS2 cause there pretty cheap now :thumbs:
 
like i would like to play as 90% of the people shown on the show "cops".

no thanks.
 
lol, the PS2 won't be able to handle that! ragdoll, advanced physics engine, new graphics engine, all the huge locations, the lighting, the VASTLY HUGE gang system (IE: your respect changes by the clothes, hair, and how heavy you are)... the PS2 won't be able to handle it! i'm waiting for the xbox version, sony and rockstar's exclusivity deal wore off early this year... i expect an xbox port by Q1 2005

on the PS2, the draw distance will be 3 meters :p
the PS2 could barely handle Vice City :|, the character models alone will lag it to 9 FPS. They will probably do the old trick with the tracing of everything (so you seem like your high, i forget their explanation for THAT) and have really washed out lighting effect (IE: the red sun ALWAYS being in your eyes)... i dunno, Xbox pwns all 3 consoles hardware wise... the GC comes in 2nd, but they have absolutely NO 3rd party support because of lackluster sales and (for some reason) thinking there is no money to be made from online gaming (can you say 1,000,000 subscribes to Xbox Live? and the 30,000 who play SoCom 2 every day)... oh well, i've digress and am now widly ranting... goodbye
 
Holy crap, look at the highway :eek: how awesome will chases down that be.
Wow they showed the golden gate bridge, this game is going to rock. wow
 
thehunter1320 said:
lol, the PS2 won't be able to handle that! ragdoll, advanced physics engine, new graphics engine, all the huge locations, the lighting, the VASTLY HUGE gang system (IE: your respect changes by the clothes, hair, and how heavy you are)... the PS2 won't be able to handle it! i'm waiting for the xbox version, sony and rockstar's exclusivity deal wore off early this year... i expect an xbox port by Q1 2005

on the PS2, the draw distance will be 3 meters :p
the PS2 could barely handle Vice City :|, the character models alone will lag it to 9 FPS. They will probably do the old trick with the tracing of everything (so you seem like your high, i forget their explanation for THAT) and have really washed out lighting effect (IE: the red sun ALWAYS being in your eyes)... i dunno, Xbox pwns all 3 consoles hardware wise... the GC comes in 2nd, but they have absolutely NO 3rd party support because of lackluster sales and (for some reason) thinking there is no money to be made from online gaming (can you say 1,000,000 subscribes to Xbox Live? and the 30,000 who play SoCom 2 every day)... oh well, i've digress and am now widly ranting... goodbye
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Haha, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. That "washed out lighting effect" was called trails, and you could turn it off in the options menu. When it's off it looks almost exactly like the X-BOX version. On top of that, the framerates for the PS2 version were actually BETTER than the X-BOX version. You're also wrong about the draw distance, with the PS2 it will be twice what it was in Vice City when you're in the city. When you go into the country it will increase to three times as large.

Also, the idea that the PS2 can't handle this game is just stupid. There are already games in the same genre of this that look MUCH better on the system, such as Driver 3 and The Getaway. The graphics aren't that great, and they're not doing anything that the PS2 hasn't already done. Rockstar makes great games, but their games don't have good graphics. The fact that they could make these kinds of enhancements to the existing engine just proves how badly coded it was in the first place.
 
Xbox sucks the only good xbox games are halo and splinter cell! all the others are stolen off other consoles like gta! plus they weigh a tone!
 
Suit yourself man, i prefer Xbox to any other console
 
bud7miker said:
Xbox sucks the only good xbox games are halo and splinter cell! all the others are stolen off other consoles like gta! plus they weigh a tone!
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"xbox weighs a tonne, the controller is SO big, and only halo is the game worth playing - omg! microsoft made it is teh SuXorz".

Stereotypical BS. :hmph:
 
mhmmm maybe i should get this for my ps2..... the last game i bought is nfl street and i had lots of fun with gta3 on ps2.... so.. we'll see
 
I'm not gonna get a PS2 just for this, I don't want low FPS, half-assed graphics and no keyboard/mouse. VC was way better on PC.
 
bud7miker said:
all the others are stolen off other consoles like gta!
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DO NOT GET ME STARTED!!! :flame:

Ninja Gaiden, Sudeki, Full Spectrum Warrior, Chronicles of Riddick, Fable, Jade Empire, KOTOR, Halo 2, Crimson Skies, Mech Assualt Series, Lots of Xbox only ports cause only the xbox can handle them. Plus, Xbox live kicks so much ass! Now, I'm not saying the PS2 is bad, it's an exceptional system! But the hardware is 4 years old, while the xbox's is only 3 and is more advanced
 
Point taken, :eek: sorry xbox fans :cheers: i'm just pissed that xbox got ahold of gta when it's supposed to be a PS2 Exculsive. :hmph:
 
bud7miker said:
Point taken, :eek: sorry xbox fans :cheers: i'm just pissed that xbox got ahold of gta when it's supposed to be a PS2 Exculsive. :hmph:
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it was exclusive, but like i said before, Sony's contract with Rockstar died... i don't blame you for being pissed

and no harm, no foul... mate :D
 
http://maddox.xmission.com/xbox_suckit.html

^all that needs to be said about the XBox,
Not to mention its made by Microsoft. every single person who works on the XBox at Microsoft is annoying. The Ps2 Surpasses The XBox in everyway possible, even in hardware, Sony knows how to make unique hardware that can be pushed. XBox is barely in its 4/5 year, and will already reach its limit with Doom 3 and Halo 2, the Ps2 is in its 6'th year and is still finding its untapped power. Peter Moore said Forza is the best looking game on the XBox, while GT4 still looks way better then Forza...i wonder why? Everything XBox has Ps2 has 2 to counter, Ninja Gaiden is a good game, but if i want fast pace action i'll just play DMC1 then get DMC3 when it comes out, XBox has Forza, like i said GT4 will own it in every way. Not to mention the Ps2 has the top 2 selling Platformers, Jak and Daxter, and Rachet And Clank. XBox can keep the overated piece of trash Halo/2 is, I Want Killzone, Cold Winter, And Black (which might end up being a Ps2 exlcusive if SCEE or SCEA keep on with discussing it) the XBox will have XBox 2, the Ps2 will have the Ps3, which will obviously beatith the crap out of XBox 2, Sony even helped build Collada and will use OpenGL as a platform for Ps3 games, not to mention every Game Developing software such as Software Image XGI, Maya x.0 and 3Ds Max are all in Collada, including the people who produce Renderware, Criterion who are also developing Black. XNA completely takes away Developer freedom since they provide 80% of the code to developers, do you really think Developers will like that? developers especially ones such as VALVe and ID (esp. John Carmack) hate being controlled like that. Sony is setting up a perfect plan to let the Ps3 be "Open" developer wise while MS is concetraiting on showing off what they dont have, and what they do is not much in reality.

BTW Ps2 = 80+ Mill consoles sold World Wide, XBox = 15 Mill Sold World Wide... Its all in the figures.

anyone who replys opposite of this is a fanboy that is overly angry and in denial.
 
Pitbul said:
http://maddox.xmission.com/xbox_suckit.html

^all that needs to be said about the XBox,
Not to mention its made by Microsoft. every single person who works on the XBox at Microsoft is annoying. The Ps2 Surpasses The XBox in everyway possible, even in hardware, Sony knows how to make unique hardware that can be pushed. XBox is barely in its 4/5 year, and will already reach its limit with Doom 3 and Halo 2, the Ps2 is in its 6'th year and is still finding its untapped power. Peter Moore said Forza is the best looking game on the XBox, while GT4 still looks way better then Forza...i wonder why? Everything XBox has Ps2 has 2 to counter, Ninja Gaiden is a good game, but if i want fast pace action i'll just play DMC1 then get DMC3 when it comes out, XBox has Forza, like i said GT4 will own it in every way. Not to mention the Ps2 has the top 2 selling Platformers, Jak and Daxter, and Rachet And Clank. XBox can keep the overated piece of trash Halo/2 is, I Want Killzone, Cold Winter, And Black (which might end up being a Ps2 exlcusive if SCEE or SCEA keep on with discussing it) the XBox will have XBox 2, the Ps2 will have the Ps3, which will obviously beatith the crap out of XBox 2, Sony even helped build Collada and will use OpenGL as a platform for Ps3 games, not to mention every Game Developing software such as Software Image XGI, Maya x.0 and 3Ds Max are all in Collada, including the people who produce Renderware, Criterion who are also developing Black. XNA completely takes away Developer freedom since they provide 80% of the code to developers, do you really think Developers will like that? developers especially ones such as VALVe and ID (esp. John Carmack) hate being controlled like that. Sony is setting up a perfect plan to let the Ps3 be "Open" developer wise while MS is concetraiting on showing off what they dont have, and what they do is not much in reality.

BTW Ps2 = 80+ Mill consoles sold World Wide, XBox = 15 Mill Sold World Wide... Its all in the figures.

anyone who replys opposite of this is a fanboy that is overly angry and in denial.
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^Also a fan boy^
 
Even though I'm a X-Box hater, the X-Box is far more superior in graphics etc then the PS2. The PS2 has better games though.
 
Some new character info release :bounce: : www.gtagaming.com
The new characters called Wu Zi Mu he's the leader of the triad gand in san fierro :thumbs:
 
nw909 said:
NOT RACIST
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One does wonder, doesn't one...

I was definitely interested to see whether people would be put off by playing a black guy*.



* : I was tempted to make an ironically racist innuendo, but I'm worried that some people don't get things unless they're wrapped up in sarcasm tags with neon lights attached :hmph:
 
Visit the official site for hi-res trailer and new screenies and other features.
 
Im not interested in the new GTA game, they have turned it into "GTA: The Weight and mussle sim!" I have no interest in haveing to go eat and stuff in gta, thats not what the games about. Wee.
 
The Mistress said:
Im not interested in the new GTA game, they have turned it into "GTA: The Weight and mussle sim!" I have no interest in haveing to go eat and stuff in gta, thats not what the games about. Wee.
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Eating is not a major aspect of the game.
 
a forum clean of flames......impossible thing

is really anoyingwhen the people start to say "thats sucks cuz is in PS2,Xbox, and the PC ownz cuz doom3 looks roX0r in my atinvidiaxtmegaplatinun8800090000plutoniuncoreultraatomicprocezing and blablablablabla"

the PS2 came first of all the next generationg consoles so is not rare that the xbox hav better things
but still the ps2 is good and xbox is good also

I dont understand the people hates consoles, cuz the consoles videogames and PC videogames are the same..videogames is just that hav litle diference

I hav a ps2 but is damaged :(:.( and I like the Xbox,gamecube and PC too and I will be happy to hav them all

and back to GTA:SA: is a GTA!!1 is enough reason to buy it
 
Some people hate microsoft, some people hate steam. But microsoft has always done well for me(Usually), people always overdue everything. "Service Pack 2 is full of bugs" - ive not had 1 bug with it. Im not a fanboy i just don't see anything majorly wrong with it. If there was something wrong with it, i would get upset.. but nothing bad so far.

Im going to post exact specs for each and let you all argue over them!
Ps2 Specs:
CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"
System Clock: 300 MHz
System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
Co-Processor: FPU (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 1, Floating Point Divider x 1) Vector
Units: VU0 and VU1 (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 9, Floating Point Divider x 1) Floating
Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons Per Second
Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Clock Frequency: 150MHz
DRAM Bus bandwidth: 48 GB Per Second
DRAM Bus width: 2560 bits
Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8:32)
Maximum Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons Per Second
Number of voices: ADPCM: 48 channel on SPU2 plus definable by software
Sampling Frequency: 44.1 KHz or 48 KHz (selectable)
CPU Core: Current PlayStation CPU
Clock Frequency: 33.8 MHz or 37.5 MHz (selectable)
Sub Bus: 32 Bit
Interface Types: IEEE1394, Universal Serial Bus (USB)
Communication via PC-Card PCMCIA
DVD-ROM (CD-ROM compatible)

Xbox Specs:
Height: 3.1'
Width: 11.8'
Depth: 7.1'
Weight: 8.8 lbs
Media Type: DVD-ROM
CPU: X86-to-RISC Intel Pentium III or Celeron 733 MHz
RAM installed: 64 MB
RAM technology: DDR SDRAM
Cache size: 128 KB
HDD Capacity: 8 GB
Video Output: NVidia Xbox GPU 256-bit 2D/3D graphics acceleration
Supported Video: NTSC S-Video Installed,Component video Installed,Composite video Installed
Max resolution (external): 1920 x 1080 pixels Graphic Effects Shadows,Fog effects,Pixel Shaders,Vertex Shaders,Texture lighting,Bilinear filtering,Trilinear filtering
Fill Rate: 4000 million pixels/sec
Audio Processor: NVidia Xbox MCP
Sound Output Mode: Stereo
Memory Card: 8mb Flash
Net: Intergrated 100mbps modem/LAN
Ports: 1 Xbox AV output Xbox AV connector Installed,4 Game controller,1 Network RJ-45 Installed

Gamecube Specs:
Contemporary cube shape
4 controller ports
2 memory card slots
Capacity for future modem/broadband connection
485MHz custom CPU with 162MHz custom graphics processor
40MB total memory; 2.6 GB per second memory bandwidth
12M polygons per second; texture read bandwidth 10.4 GB per second
64 audio channels
Dimensions 4.5" x 5.9" x 6.3"
3-inch Optical Disc Technology (1.5 gigabytes)
------------------------------------------------
Ps1 Specs:
Analog Joystick
Controller
Memory Card
Link Cable
Mouse with Pad
RFU Adaptor
Multitap Unit
R3000A
32 bit RISC processor
Clock- 33.8688MHz
Operating performance - 30 MIPS
Instruction Cache - 4 KB
Data Cache - 1 KB
BUS - 132 MB/sec.
Data Transfer Rate (DMA TO RAM) 150 KB/sec. (Normal) 300 KB/sec. (Double speed)
Maximum Capacity - 660 Megabytes
Features Audio CD play XA Interactive Audio
Control Pad Two control pad connectors Expandable with multitap connector
Backup RAM Two removable cards 128 KB Flash Memory OS support for File Save, Retrieve and Remove
Serial Port I/O Link Cable Connectivity
Main RAM: 2 Megabytes Video RAM: 1 Megabyte Sound RAM: 512 Kilobytes CD ROM buffer: 32 Kilobytes OS ROM: 512 Kilobytes
24 Channels
44.1KHz sample rate
PCM audio source
Digital effects include: Envelope Looping Digital Reverb
Load up to 512K of sampled waveforms Supports MIDI Instruments

N64 Specs
PU: MIPS 64-bit RISC CPU (customized R4000 series)
Clock Speed: 93.75 MHz
Co-processor: 64-bit RISC processor running at 62.5 MHz
RCP SP (Sound and Graphics Processor)
and DP ( Pixel Drawing Processor)
Graphics processing functions: Z-Buffering, Anti-aliasing, eliminates jagged lines and edges, mostly in low res. Realistic texture-mapping. Alpha Channel effects\Fog, Transparency, etc.
Ray-Tracing/sophisticated form of light tracing ability. Gouraud shading, (Featuring: Tri-Linear filtered mip-map interpolation, Perspective correction, Environment mapping).
Memory: Rambus D-RAM 36 Mbits
Transfer Speed: Maximum transfer speed 4,500 M bits/sec. running at 500Mhz.
Polygon draw rate: 150,000pps with all effects @ 60fps
Resolution: 256 X 224 - 640 X 480 dots with flicker free interlace mode support
Color: Maximum: 16.8 million colors, 32-Bit RGBA, Pixel Color Frames Buffer Support, 21-Bit color video output, 16.8 million colors available, 32,000 colors on screen at once
Output: RF, Stereo A/V, S-Video, HDTV, NTSC/PAL
Digital sound: 16-bit
Number of voices: ADPCM: 16-24 channels w/pitch-shifting
PCM: 100 channels possible, take 1% of CPU each
Sampling frequency: 44.1KHz or 48KHz (selectable)
Benchmark performance: Main CPU clocked at 125 MIPS (millions of instructions per second) Graphics Co-Processor clocked at 100+ MFLOPS (millions of floating point operations per second) 100,000 polygons per second, with all hardware graphic features turned on.
Controller: Input for four controllers Analog/Digital Total of nine buttons
Dimensions: 10.23" wide x 7.48" deep x 2.87" high
Weight: 2.42 pounds
 
Pitbul said:
anyone who replys opposite of this is a fanboy that is overly angry and in denial.
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:LOL:

Wow, just take a look at what you're writing. Please. No, really.
 
Minerel said:
Actually the Xbox is faster than the PS2, its true face the damn facts. Some people hate microsoft, some people hate steam. But microsoft has always done well for me(Usually), people always overdue everything. "Service Pack 2 is full of bugs" - ive not had 1 bug with it. Im not a fanboy i just don't see anything majorly wrong with it. If there was something wrong with it, i would get upset.. but nothing bad so far.

But ive seen the specs and am willing to present them.
Memory - Ps2: 32 Xbox: 64DDR
Speed - Ps2: 294.912 MHz Xbox: 750 Mhz
Gfx Card speed - Ps2: 150 Xbox: 250
Memory Bandwidth - Ps2: 3.2/Gb(s) Xbox: 6.4Gb(s)

These are the only specs i could exactly compare on the stuff i got, ill try to find more and edit this.
Also xbox supprots: Full Scene Anti Aliasing, HDTV, Micro Polying Support,:64(up to 256 stereo voices) Audio Channels
3D Audio Support
MIDI DLS2 Support
AC3 Encoded Game Audio
Broadband Enabled: Yes
Ill try and get alot more accurate, if i could find that 1 page a long time ago i could tell you exactly with alot more comparisions.
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I know the xbox is faster
I hav played games that are in ps2 and xbox and looks whit better fps in xbox

but still I love ps2 :D
 
game looks kool, as alway's,

so... any real / would be criminal's following this one? :p
 
This thread is like a month old... :|

Game looks great.. Again... Can't wait to play that... When I bored enough of HL2 to even THINK about playing it.
 
/me carreses my PS2 with my salad fingers...ah the feel of PS2 against my salad fingers is almost ORGAZMIC!
 
thehunter1320 said:
DO NOT GET ME STARTED!!! :flame:

Ninja Gaiden, Sudeki, Full Spectrum Warrior, Chronicles of Riddick, Fable, Jade Empire, KOTOR, Halo 2, Crimson Skies, Mech Assualt Series, Lots of Xbox only ports cause only the xbox can handle them. Plus, Xbox live kicks so much ass! Now, I'm not saying the PS2 is bad, it's an exceptional system! But the hardware is 4 years old, while the xbox's is only 3 and is more advanced
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You forgot the Dead or Alive series!
 
You forgot HL2 will be going onto Xbox!
Can it go on the ps2? Hell no, to slow i mean they are already reducing some detail in the monsters for Xbox, for Ps2 it would be umm... insanley bad..
 
wow this thread reaks of fanboys...


Off topic: I dont know why people go crazy over xbox live..i dont think its anything special..plus you have to pay. ps2's online system is free isnt it?
 
Sad that so many Formerly Great PC Game Developers are being inticed by Miscosoft's bribes .... Name some ? Okay :

Deus Ex 2 - Invisible War : Okay, this game is optimised for the X-Box as far as I'm concerned, from the crappy loading times to the horrible physics, and the (puny) selection of weapons, and finally, NO SKILL SYSTEM !. I mean, come on, Deus Ex had tons of weapons (about 50+), modifications which actually affected the wepons, a cool skill system to boot, and lots of augumentations (15 I think ...), all Ionstorm needed to do was get a great graphics system, and they would have been set !.

Fable : Yes, Fable looks excellent, but there has to be some sort of restriction on it if you use the X-Box's crappy processor. Whether it will be load times, world size, or actions allowed, there will be SOME restriction !. Meanwhile if it was on PC, well, modding would add to the length of the game, and with even-increasing processor power, all restriction could have been lifted. Yet another company bribed by Microsoft !

Far Cry : Well, this takes the cake. Only X-Box fanboys will be able to decyper any good things about this game. I mean, look, a "fog" sets in past 750 meters +, the mercaneries A.I will be severly toned down (again, the processor), and the weapons and vehicles look like crap.

Well, at least we have Black and White 2 to look foward to ... that is, until Microsoft bribes Lionhead to bring it to the XBox .... trust me, it WILL happen .... :(
 
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