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I've just received word from gh0st that Promised Land, a total conversion for Half-Life 2, has just gotten a new home and they also want to show us the following renders.[br]<span align="center">
New Host and Renders for Promised Land
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supermeerkat
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Interesting idea, perhaps it could be used as way to explain and explore the current conflict in Israel and examine the philosophies and motives of both sides. This would be certainly be a novel medium to bring such discussions into an more open arena. Hmm, worth keeping an eye on.
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Awesome, unskinned renders......
Retards.
Retards.
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I think this mod will be extremely controversal. Not that I don't like the sound of if, but just make sure you watch your step with it.
Oh and just ignore people who insult you for not liking the work you are showing. If they don't like seeing unskinned weapon renders then they could have simply ignored this news post.
Now to those who can't stand seeing unskinned renders: People need to hear about mod teams if the mod is going to end up getting anywere. One of the best ways of doing that is to have news sites post up the work that the team has done. If all they have are unskinned weapon renders (and at this early stage there really isn't much else to show) to show off then that is what they should show off.
Oh and just ignore people who insult you for not liking the work you are showing. If they don't like seeing unskinned weapon renders then they could have simply ignored this news post.
Now to those who can't stand seeing unskinned renders: People need to hear about mod teams if the mod is going to end up getting anywere. One of the best ways of doing that is to have news sites post up the work that the team has done. If all they have are unskinned weapon renders (and at this early stage there really isn't much else to show) to show off then that is what they should show off.
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supermeerkat said:
Or perhaps it could have them blowing the shit out of each other.
Personally I'd steer clear of topics like this. There's realistic conflicts, and then there's real ones.
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Meh... looks ok.
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Bah, people really need some damned manners. I'm getting sick of hearing these comments.
Anyway, my opinion is that while conflicts are still going on, maybe games aimed at entertainment should be held off. After all, many people are actually dying. I would think that if you used actual, real events in this mod, it would be equivilant to making a game or something "fun" related to the 9/11 attack. I mean, wouldn't Israelites (or anyone involved first-hand, for that matter) react the same way to watching this conflict that an American watching a re-creation of 9/11 in a game would?
Just my opinion, is all. I'm not trying to tell you to stop, I'm just saying that people may not react so well to this mod.
Anyway, my opinion is that while conflicts are still going on, maybe games aimed at entertainment should be held off. After all, many people are actually dying. I would think that if you used actual, real events in this mod, it would be equivilant to making a game or something "fun" related to the 9/11 attack. I mean, wouldn't Israelites (or anyone involved first-hand, for that matter) react the same way to watching this conflict that an American watching a re-creation of 9/11 in a game would?
Just my opinion, is all. I'm not trying to tell you to stop, I'm just saying that people may not react so well to this mod.
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The Mullinator said:
We dont plan to take sides at all, obviously how ever you look at it both sides are fighting for a cause, i have different personal beliefs than what i stated, but i wont let them affect the mod. All we are doing is telling a story like CoD, or Americas Army.
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Do the terrorist side blow themselves up? It could be their "secret bonus weapon"!
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yeah nice one. maybe you can have peace activists for the israelis to kill. OR MAYBE you can have innocent civillians on each side that can be mindlessly slaughtered.
yeah good idea!
suicide bomber class..
i'm not usually one to be affected by tripe but having just recently just seen 'death in gaza' and 'death of an idealist' I guess something about this conflict is just pure bad taste to be made into something for entertainment. AA is just a propoganda tool and CoD is about a conflict in which we knew very little about the human cost. They were no way shown nearly as graphically as it is today.
yeah good idea!
suicide bomber class..
i'm not usually one to be affected by tripe but having just recently just seen 'death in gaza' and 'death of an idealist' I guess something about this conflict is just pure bad taste to be made into something for entertainment. AA is just a propoganda tool and CoD is about a conflict in which we knew very little about the human cost. They were no way shown nearly as graphically as it is today.
Yo was death in gaza about those kids on each side of the fence so to speak? and the cameraman got shot for no reason.
Damn that was powerfull stuff.
Atleast the kid who worked for the "terrorists" decided he wanted to become a camera man and so did the other kid who followed him around.
Damn that was powerfull stuff.
Atleast the kid who worked for the "terrorists" decided he wanted to become a camera man and so did the other kid who followed him around.
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These "lets make a mod based on current events" are getting as bad as reality TV shows.
You know where this is going, next will be IRA mods, mods based on killing terrorists, finally ending with very sick who killed the kid mods.
You know where this is going, next will be IRA mods, mods based on killing terrorists, finally ending with very sick who killed the kid mods.
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yeah the cameraman who got shot in the head by an israeli sniper.
they followed it up. The kids are no longer friends because the families had to move apart when the israelis destroyed their homes.
they followed it up. The kids are no longer friends because the families had to move apart when the israelis destroyed their homes.
Yeh i was like wtf they shot him?
I remember watching a program it was called something like "kids in war" and it went all around the world documenting children who had to fight in wars and what their experiences where, check it out.
And yeh suicide bomber class :| that is taking it a bit to far.
Let's make a mod based on beheading westeners! Ohh can i be the guy with the knife!
But anyway i thought posts with no skinned renders werent getting put on here?
I remember watching a program it was called something like "kids in war" and it went all around the world documenting children who had to fight in wars and what their experiences where, check it out.
And yeh suicide bomber class :| that is taking it a bit to far.
Let's make a mod based on beheading westeners! Ohh can i be the guy with the knife!
But anyway i thought posts with no skinned renders werent getting put on here?
What's the deal here? I mean CS is about terrorists planting bombs and you don't complain about that?
Kuma wars puts you in Fallujah. I haven't heard anyone mention that.
Desert Combat is all about the Gulf Wars. No political rant on that one?
Fenric, I have to disagree, reality TV shows make people stupid. This is a game you take part in. And no one would play a mod with the IRA. But if we're gonna debate about this, I suggest someone make a topic about the subject in the OT board.
Kuma wars puts you in Fallujah. I haven't heard anyone mention that.
Desert Combat is all about the Gulf Wars. No political rant on that one?
Fenric, I have to disagree, reality TV shows make people stupid. This is a game you take part in. And no one would play a mod with the IRA. But if we're gonna debate about this, I suggest someone make a topic about the subject in the OT board.
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I don't like the idea of this mod, but I don't know how to argue this without sounding like a hypocrit.
I play CS, but it is very vague. There are no specific political or historical elements to the game. IT's almost fantasy.
Americas Army is obviously "kill the guys wearing towels around their heads" propaganda. I don't play that game because of that.
I also don't play Desert Combat because it was reaching popularity during the second gulf war. I just found it sick and disturbing that people would watch tanks blowing stuff up on T.V, killing people then they'd fire up DC and hoon around in an M1 to relive that experience.
Likewise, i won't be touching this mod with a 50000m pole due to the subject matter. The whole world constantly watches Israelis and Palestinians killing eachother. It's a scar on humanity and it's something i think EVERYONE WANTS TO END. But the hatred is too deep rooted on both sides and it won't end.
Anyway.....no i won't be playing this mod.
I play CS, but it is very vague. There are no specific political or historical elements to the game. IT's almost fantasy.
Americas Army is obviously "kill the guys wearing towels around their heads" propaganda. I don't play that game because of that.
I also don't play Desert Combat because it was reaching popularity during the second gulf war. I just found it sick and disturbing that people would watch tanks blowing stuff up on T.V, killing people then they'd fire up DC and hoon around in an M1 to relive that experience.
Likewise, i won't be touching this mod with a 50000m pole due to the subject matter. The whole world constantly watches Israelis and Palestinians killing eachother. It's a scar on humanity and it's something i think EVERYONE WANTS TO END. But the hatred is too deep rooted on both sides and it won't end.
Anyway.....no i won't be playing this mod.
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I've got it, I've got it!
Let's have a mod called "Child sex". It's far less political, and once you'd have "scored" your points, you could still have them blow up gaza style! You could even have bonus levels in school buses!
Hurray!
Is this the freedom of speech our grandfathers fought for? I think I hear mine turning around in his grave.
Shmucks
Let's have a mod called "Child sex". It's far less political, and once you'd have "scored" your points, you could still have them blow up gaza style! You could even have bonus levels in school buses!
Hurray!
Is this the freedom of speech our grandfathers fought for? I think I hear mine turning around in his grave.
Shmucks
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phuket101
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i won't be playing this mod either.
i knows family and friends who's lives have been profoundly affected because those they knew and loved, lost to terrorism. ive been to places in Israel that are no longer there because of suicide bombings. i know people who live in fear near the borders because fences still have holes for bullets to go through.
frankly, im pretty offended your making a game out of something that comes so close to these sensitive and _not_ light topics of terrorist activity in the middle east.
i knows family and friends who's lives have been profoundly affected because those they knew and loved, lost to terrorism. ive been to places in Israel that are no longer there because of suicide bombings. i know people who live in fear near the borders because fences still have holes for bullets to go through.
frankly, im pretty offended your making a game out of something that comes so close to these sensitive and _not_ light topics of terrorist activity in the middle east.
It's a game about a military conflict. What makes this one so special? there are a thousand others like this one. Just because the two sides involved are the IDF and the Hamas doesn't make it any different than the Allies and the Axis in a World War II game.
And Alpha you really crossed the line with child pornography. If you're offended by this mod how did you react when you heard of Grand Theft Auto?
And Alpha you really crossed the line with child pornography. If you're offended by this mod how did you react when you heard of Grand Theft Auto?
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The problem is that the conflict is currently going on. This is not an Axis vs. Allies ripoff. It's not CS with the "leet crew" of terrorists. It's not gta with it's tongue-in-cheek ridiculous pop culture. People are fighting and dying every day in that region. It's sick that somebody would make a game out of it, and disgusting that they insult anybody who questions its ethics.
And a thank you Alpha for interjecting some humor here. lol @ the schoolbus.
And a thank you Alpha for interjecting some humor here. lol @ the schoolbus.
So it would have been okay if the conflict had taken place twenty years ago? I mean all first person shooters in Vietnam are okay but make a game about the current conflicts and it's an outrage? c'mon!
It's like that South Park episode where you have wait 22.3 years for tragic events to become funny.
It's like that South Park episode where you have wait 22.3 years for tragic events to become funny.
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whats this? a new host? and oo, unskinned renders too! excuse the sarcasm, but i think the fact that i'm drinking a cup of coffee is more interesting news.
no offense to whoevers mod it is of course. i'm not a complete bastard so i won't bring up the uglyness of the site in question
no offense to whoevers mod it is of course. i'm not a complete bastard so i won't bring up the uglyness of the site in question
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whats this? an halflife.net staff employee flaming unskinned renders!?
this is too good to be true.
*For the modmakers*
seriously, as stated before, renders are a little ok, but unskinned is wayy too much.
*for all these peoples out there*
not interested.
this is too good to be true.
*For the modmakers*
seriously, as stated before, renders are a little ok, but unskinned is wayy too much.
*for all these peoples out there*
not interested.
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Thats true he's not an employee. We did a Milton Waddams with onions and just kinda forgot to tell him.Onions said:if you'd care to read my post again you will see that i wasn't flaming the renders, rather the fact that the news post itself was a bit pointless. i'm not an employee either. that sentence was just a string of lies and you know it!
Onions on the webcam a few minutes ago
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FictiousWill said:The problem is that the conflict is currently going on. This is not an Axis vs. Allies ripoff. It's not CS with the "leet crew" of terrorists. It's not gta with it's tongue-in-cheek ridiculous pop culture. People are fighting and dying every day in that region. It's sick that somebody would make a game out of it, and disgusting that they insult anybody who questions its ethics.
And a thank you Alpha for interjecting some humor here. lol @ the schoolbus.
:upstare:
I understand where you guys come from saying it's pointless to have to wait XX time before it's decent enough to make entertainment out of it. Also that if "they" can do this, why can't I do that, etc etc ... But you have to admit it's less ethical than a game like CS or Vice city, wich has no ethnicity involved.
Making a game where black people get beaten by the (white) player character and his white crew on a cargo ship coming from Africa, headed to America, and have this be the whole game, with such realistic graphics as source can offer, wouldn't be acceptable, even today, 500 years(=half a millenia) later.
But if you change the role of the main player in being the hero freeing the slaves of that ship, then suddenly it's ok, even tho the setting is the same.
It's ok in some cases to make a game that takes place in such conflicts as a setting (even tho it's "risky"), it's just not ok to have the player himself be the protagonist of something so awful and that we can relate to so easily, especialy when it can get so graphical as your renders suggest they could.
You can't take away the fact(!) that it's just bad taste.
I hope you see where I come from when I say all this, I'm just trying to give you my perspective on it.
Peace out
Notice: I probably just killed this thread even tho I used reverse psychology in the notice.
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well onions, since you took the time to find that nice image of a cup of coffee, i scoured the internet for a picture i thought might be relevant:
thanks for your support of our mod. i think the fact you bothered to respond to pointless, boring news is evident of your own stupidity. thanks!
thanks for your support of our mod. i think the fact you bothered to respond to pointless, boring news is evident of your own stupidity. thanks!
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This game has no place in current time, It is based on a current crises. This game can only add to the tention of both sides and even encaurage more death. Think that a palestinian kid playing this game will might get aspired to go with a weapon and kill Israelies and surely get killed in the process. These kids have enough brain washing from their grown ups to do so.
This game gives support for sueside murderers there is nothing good in this. It's just like making a game NOW of AlKida terrorists trying to crash plains in the USA. Think about that, this game involves true, current ethnics. It has no place nowadays...
This game gives support for sueside murderers there is nothing good in this. It's just like making a game NOW of AlKida terrorists trying to crash plains in the USA. Think about that, this game involves true, current ethnics. It has no place nowadays...
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[This post is not meant to hurt anyone's feelings or put down their opinions. If anyone is offended I'm sorry. This is merely an exercise in voicing my own opinion and an exercise to spell those tricky words we hear all the time!]
I don't recall hearing you could be a suicide(not sueside) bomber. Umm, Hamas and al-Qaeda (not AlKida) are completely different people with completely different causes.
I believe (don't know about you) parents, cultures and religions have a much more profound effect on children than video games, if the palestinian child is able to get their hands on hl2, a computer and internet access (which is through their parents anyway).
i.e. [means example!] Someone hates [insert ethnic group] becase:
a. He played a video game where he killed bunches of [ethnic group]
b. His parents consistently refer to [ethnic group] as ******s , and teach the child to hate [ethnic group] because they do.
c. (I won't even get into the religion debate)
or
d. They were born that way (jk)
{why do people take posts so seriously anyway?
"he called me a dum-dum!" now they respond with "why are you so mean?!" or "STFU you dumbass!" etc.}
I don't recall hearing you could be a suicide(not sueside) bomber. Umm, Hamas and al-Qaeda (not AlKida) are completely different people with completely different causes.
I believe (don't know about you) parents, cultures and religions have a much more profound effect on children than video games, if the palestinian child is able to get their hands on hl2, a computer and internet access (which is through their parents anyway).
i.e. [means example!] Someone hates [insert ethnic group] becase:
a. He played a video game where he killed bunches of [ethnic group]
b. His parents consistently refer to [ethnic group] as ******s , and teach the child to hate [ethnic group] because they do.
c. (I won't even get into the religion debate)
or
d. They were born that way (jk)
{why do people take posts so seriously anyway?
"he called me a dum-dum!" now they respond with "why are you so mean?!" or "STFU you dumbass!" etc.}
