New Jersey arrests 39 for Net Child porn.

[Raziaar]

http://news.com.com/New+Jersey+arrests+39+for+Net+child+porn/2110-1030_3-5553729.html?tag=nefd.hed

Man. I'm shocked and disgusted.

And it's surprising to note that people as young as 14 were involved, and these people weren't just your dregs of society... one of them was a freaking pediatric neurosurgeon!

I don't even want to think if he did anything to kids when he was performing, or after/before performing surgery on them. THat's just sick.

Goes to prove that sucessful people aren't always good people.

 

[Eg.]

in holland its leagal, magazines often say "sweet 14 year old p{}ssy"

 

[Raziaar]

in holland its leagal, magazines often say "sweet 14 year old p{}ssy"

UGH, that's awful.

 

[Kommie]

in holland its leagal, magazines often say "sweet 14 year old p{}ssy"

that's disgusting

 

[Eg.]

and they see nothing wrong with it too

i can just imagine some 16 year old in a bathroom crying
"damn, i need to look like im 14!im not pretty!"

 

[DoctorGordon]

Thats crazy a 14-year-old gets arrested. As for the rest though, excellent.

 

[Raziaar]

Thats crazy a 14-year-old gets arrested. As for the rest though, excellent.

Hey. Its a crime, one I quite happen to agree with. We don't need ANYBODY looking at the sexual exploitation of young girls or boys... that includes other kids, no matter the age.

 

[DoctorGordon]

Hey. Its a crime, one I quite happen to agree with. We don't need ANYBODY looking at the sexual exploitation of young girls or boys... that includes other kids, no matter the age.

Yes, but what if the porn was of another 14 year old?

Also, a mere person such as a 14 year old shouldnt recieve a ton of years in jail, as he/she probably had no understanding of the offenses they're commiting.

 

[Raziaar]

Yes, but what if the porn was of another 14 year old?

Also, a mere person such as a 14 year old shouldnt recieve a ton of years in jail, as he/she probably had no understanding of the offenses they're commiting.

Yes, even if the porn was of another 14 year old being molested by someone above the legal age. Even if it was just sex between two kids of the same age, I still think its incredibly wrong and should be illegal, no matter the age. Child porn is illegal in this country for a reason, and I happen to like this law. The idea of child porn sickens me to my core.

 

[BRODIEMAN2k4]

Thats crazy a 14-year-old gets arrested. As for the rest though, excellent.

It would have been crazy if the girl on the tape was like 15. But 5, he ****ing deserved it

 

[Steve]

Bleh...

 

[dlandis72]

I can't believe the scumbag who raped the girl only got 45 years in prison. That's nothing compared to the pain that girl will need to deal with for the rest of her life.

 

[DoctorGordon]

It would have been crazy if the girl on the tape was like 15. But 5, he ****ing deserved it

Ahh, well agreed then.

 

[smwScott]

I don't think a teenager watching porn clips of other teenagers having consentual sex should be illegal, or at least enforced, but he definitely had it coming with this one. Video of anyone being molested and raped (obviously against there will) is revolting but it's incredibly worse since the girl is 5.

I wonder if all of them were truly getting their jollies from it or if they were dementedly curious though. Doesn't matter though, anyone who would actively seek out and acquire such a tape gets whatever they have coming.

 

[GiaOmerta]

Thirty-nine people have been arrested in New Jersey charged with possession of video clips obtained over the Internet of the molestation and rape of a 5-year-old girl in the state of Georgia, state police said Thursday.

****ing sick ****s.
If I had any connection to that 5-year-old girl. All 39 of those ****s would each be tortured and die in a creative fashion. Madone... sick world we live in.

 

[Ardoramor]

Although I've never been in jain... or convicted or anything like that, I heard that criminals pretty much hate (in extremely light term) child molestors. So I think that we're safe assuming that they wont make it easy for them! But if that doesn't work out, how long do you think they will live? That bastard that got 45? He must be at least 30+ and all that ass-stress and beating in jail will take another 45 years out of him! Hehe, he deserves it... but if I had a go at him, jail would look like heaven for him!

****!!! I just realized that he will be living off our taxes... let him starve ***ch! I'm not paying my taxes till he starves

 

[Raziaar]

Although I've never been in jain... or convicted or anything like that, I heard that criminals pretty much hate (in extremely light term) child molestors. So I think that we're safe assuming that they wont make it easy for them! But if that doesn't work out, how long do you think they will live? That bastard that got 45? He must be at least 30+ and all that ass-stress and beating in jail will take another 45 years out of him! Hehe, he deserves it... but if I had a go at him, jail would look like heaven for him!

****!!! I just realized that he will be living off our taxes... let him starve ***ch! I'm not paying my taxes till he starves

Yeah, its common perception that most criminals have hatred towards child molestors. I dont know if thats true or not, but I believe it.

 

[Eg.]

it is true, not from personal experience. but yeah, child rapists and what not dont lve long as a lot of people in jail have kids, and are in jail for killing people, so why not

 

[Gray Fox]

in holland its leagal, magazines often say "sweet 14 year old p{}ssy"

No it's not, you have a really distorted Fox news image of the world dude.

 

[Raziaar]

No it's not, you have a really distorted Fox news image of the world dude.

What is the legal age for the country then? I honestly don't know. I was inclined to believe him because it didn't seem unrealistic to me. But i'm certainly open to fact.

 

[Eg.]

No it's not, you have a really distorted Fox news image of the world dude.

my mistake, i used holland as an example, i knew it was one of teh scandinavian nations, but i didnt know which one. there anre magazines, i just dont recall which nation in northern europe. and just because the general public frowns on it, doesnt mean their arent buyers

 

[Scoobnfl]

What is the legal age for the country then? I honestly don't know. I was inclined to believe him because it didn't seem unrealistic to me. But i'm certainly open to fact.

the age for consent in Holland is 12 years old.

and it's a shame that the death penalty isn't available for child porn and rape.

in regards to the 14 year old, odds basically guarantee that he/she was a victim of sexual abuse, a terrible shame.

 

[Gray Fox]

the age for consent in Holland is 12 years old.

and it's a shame that the death penalty isn't available for child porn and rape.

in regards to the 14 year old, odds basically guarantee that he/she was a victim of sexual abuse, a terrible shame.

12 years, now where did you hear/read that, give me some links. Or should I guess :naughty: :naughty:
Eg

my mistake, i used holland as an example, i knew it was one of teh scandinavian nations, but i didnt know which one. there anre magazines, i just dont recall which nation in northern europe. and just because the general public frowns on it, doesnt mean their arent buyers

First [img=http://img175.exs.cx/img175/8611/mapeuropa4kd.gif]
Secondly: what is wrong with scandinavian countries, they are like the best places to live in, the highest welvare rate, the best education, best girls, best intenet connections, lowest crimerates, very open. And yet you US people keep bashing it.

 

[Scoobnfl]

12 years, now where did you hear/read that, give me some links. Or should I guess :naughty: :naughty:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=age+of+consent+in+holland

pick one

 

[The Monkey]

They raped a 5-year old? That ****er should have his balls out, and then be forced to eat them.

 

[Eg.]

12 years, now where did you hear/read that, give me some links. Or should I guess :naughty: :naughty:
Eg


First [img=http://img175.exs.cx/img175/8611/mapeuropa4kd.gif]
Secondly: what is wrong with scandinavian countries, they are like the best places to live in, the highest welvare rate, the best education, best girls, best intenet connections, lowest crimerates, very open. And yet you US people keep bashing it.

kiddie porn.

 

[Gray Fox]

Haha lol, the age of consent is 16, well if you believe the site. But you know you shouldn't believe everything wat they say on he net.
On the net they even claimed that Iraq had WMD's, I mean how rediculus is that.
Besides in florida the AOC is 15, atleast if you **** someone under 25, and as far as I know Gay's are discriminated in the US, I believe the ACLU filed a report about that to the supreme court, their punishment are much tougher.

 

[Gray Fox]

kiddie porn.

?.... I don't get it.

 

[Eg.]

thats why some of us in america dont exactly have the best image of scandinavian nations, they are the largets exporters of kiddie porn in teh world

 

[Gray Fox]

Links please.

 

[Raziaar]

They raped a 5-year old? That ****er should have his balls out, and then be forced to eat them.

Too light of a punishment. He'd probably get off on it anyways.

 

[Raziaar]

Links please.

I don't really agree with him, since i have never heard such a thing before. But doing a search on something regarding the matter, I came across this old news article.

For verisimilitude, he borrowed the euphemistic language and complicated ordering instructions from the mailings of real Scandinavian distributors.

This particular quote above, stood out. I guess its what the search result found to display it in one of the top pages.

http://www.freejesse.net/Newsweek.htm

A Fresh Assault on an Ugly Crime

NEWSWEEK: MARCH 14,1988

Federal agents enter a sleazy underworld to track down kiddie‑porn customers and child molesters

Michael Bardy, 27, was getting ready for a Troop 960 Boy Scout meeting last June when the package of dirty pictures arrived. Dressed in his scoutmaster uniform, Bardy signed for a parcel containing a dozen photos of children in sexually explicit poses that he had ordered from a Canadian mail‑order house. Minutes later the police knocked on the door of his Schiller Park, Ill., apartment and arrested him for importing child pornography. Once inside, they found hundreds of child‑porn magazines, clippings of boys modeling underwear from department store catalogs and photos of scouts wearing only their briefs. In January Bardy, who had worked as a guard at the Cook County Juvenile Detention Center, pleaded guilty to two counts of importing child pornography; he's scheduled to be sentenced in federal court next week.

Bardy was snared by Operation Borderline, an ambitious project of the U.S. Customs Service to stem the trade in child pornography. Together with similar stings run by the U.S. Postal Service over the past few years, federal agents have become major traffickers in kiddie porn, posing as sleaze merchants in order to break up a vile underground business. By the summer prosecutors estimate that Borderline alone will have yielded a hundred guilty pleas or convictions. And these efforts have paid unexpected dividends, leading investigators to two dozen alleged child molesters. "These guys are cruising out of control and cruising toward our kids," says Jack O'Malley, the customs agent who directed the Borderline operation.



Photo spread: While consenting adults continue to differ on the issue of conventional pornography, the society at large has reached a clear consensus on its disapproval of dirty pictures or films involving children. Federal law bars the importing of child porn, and nearly all states forbid its production or distribution. Six years ago the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a New York law making it a felony to sell child porn, and 13 states even bar its possession.

Law‑enforcement agents believe that about 95 percent of the child porn in this country has been imported from abroad. But a few years ago O'Malley and his colleagues noticed that the volume of child porn seized by customs agents at O'Hare International Airport and other points of entry for overseas mail was dropping off. They concluded that foreign distributors had found ways to circumvent U.S. interceptions. The only way to find the customers then, O'Malley decided, was to have Uncle Sam go into the porn business

Working with a small team of customs agents, O'Malley created a bogus Canadian company, Produit Outaouais, whose principal product was 3‑by‑5 pictures of children in pornographic poses; each photo was mounted on cardboard as if it were a baseball card. The agents selected the photos from previously seized magazines and consulted a pediatrician to verify that each child depicted appeared to be under the age of 18. Then O'Malley designed a brochure advertising "boys and girls in sex action," offering a set of 12 photos for $15. For verisimilitude, he borrowed the euphemistic language and complicated ordering instructions from the mailings of real Scandinavian distributors. The brochure began "Hello Lolita Collector" ("Lolita" is the accepted term for child pornography, a legacy that would have appalled Nabokov), and offered ''foto sets" entitled: "Nymph Lover," "Mini Boys" and "Joe & His Uncle."

By March 1987 the sting was ready. A customs agent flew to Ottawa and mailed 2,500 fliers to people whose names had been compiled from previous raids and interviews. About 200 people responded to the offer. Some requested child‑porn videos, which O'Malley quickly produced from seized tapes and made available in a second brochure. "I couldn't believe the response," said Richard Tierney, head of the Chicago customs office. "Who knew?"

In June agents posing as messengers from DHL Worldwide Couriers (with the company's permission, according to customs) delivered the packages. After the drop was made, the agent would radio a team of federal and local officials waiting nearby with a search warrant. Once inside, the officials would look for other samples of child pornography or evidence of molesting. One search in Illinois uncovered a cache of 1,000 child‑porn magazines; agents had to rent a truck to remove them.

Agents report that most suspects are ashamed and contrite. "It's the scarlet letter of the '80s," says O'Malley. Two Borderline suspects killed themselves last year: a 25‑year‑old Ohio student shot himself after he was indicted, and a Wisconsin lawyer left a note saying he had been "cursed with a demon for a sexual preference."

Some suspects fight back, arguing that the government has "entrapped" them. But to sustain that defense they must show they had no "predisposition" to the crime and that agents had originated the idea. Thus far it has been successful in only one Borderline case: Vincent Herbort, a 71‑year‑old man from Cincinnati. Agents who searched his home found an extensive collection of legal adult pornography ‑‑ magazines and films – but no child porn other than the order from Produit Outaouais. At the trial, defense lawyer Allen Brown maintained that Herbort thought he was making a legal purchase. Herbort, he argued, was "an old man being manipulated" by the Feds. A jury acquitted him. Says Brown: "This kind of operation stinks."

During searches and subsequent investigations, agents looked for signs that their suspects had jobs or hobbies that brought them into contact with children. Interviews with Michael Kabala, who had received a Produit Outaouais order, led them to a nine‑year‑old boy who alleged that Kabala had twice fondled him during wrestling matches. Kabala, 33, of Chicago, pleaded not guilty to two counts of aggravated sexual abuse. In Great Neck, N.Y., agents working in a Postal Service sting were led to former high‑school teacher Arnold Friedman and his son Jesse. They were arrested on charges of sexual abuse of young boys. The Friedmans have denied the charges.

Last June agents came upon a nightmare in Conneaut, Ohio, when they searched the home of David McNutt. He had received the "Loving Children" photo set from Produit Outaouais. Agents entered a house thick with garbage and reeking from urine. Upstairs they discovered McNutt's three-year‑old daughter and two‑year‑old son locked in what Ashtabula County Sheriff 's detective Skip Eller called "the filthiest rooms I've ever seen." On top of the refrigerator they found a Polaroid print of the youngest daughter posing naked and exposing her genitalia. McNutt, 38, an unemployed Vietnam vet, sheepishly told detectives at the scene: "I thought it would be fun to take." As agents toured the house taking photographs for evidence, the daughter followed, posing all too coyly for the camera.

Psychological problems: McNutt admitted to having sex with his three children, forcing them to perform acts of oral sex from the time they were infants. According to police reports, he locked the kids in their rooms, releasing them only for meals and for his gratification. McNutt pleaded guilty to one charge of child rape; he was sentenced last month to 10 to 25 years.

McNutt fits the national profile of child molesters. His court‑appointed lawyer, James Schoren, describes him as a "meek, mild ... very pathetic person," who had psychological problems dating to his own abuse as a child. Like other pedophiles, he was too obsessed to stop. "He loves his kids like any parent. He said he couldn't help himself," says Schoren. His wife says she couldn't stop him, either. According to statements by her husband, Marsha McNutt, 39, was aware of the abuse. But her lawyer claims she didn't speak up because she was afraid of being beaten. "She's very pliable. She let this guy run her life," said attorney Frederick Pfouts. She has been charged with child endangering.

The McNutt children have been in foster homes since the arrests. The oldest, now 12, faces the most difficult adjustment. "She's in conflict about wanting to be back with her parents," explains Sally Richards, the Ashtabula county attorney who represents the youths. The younger kids, now three and four, also show emotional scars. "To them this is not wrong," says detective Eller. "This is the way they were raised." Like the boys and girls who are forced to pose for pornographic photos, the McNutt kids have been robbed of their innocence.

-- BOB COHN in Chicago

 

[Gray Fox]

Yeah but this link doesn't prove anything. As far as I know most kiddie porn is made in Taiwan,Thailand,Cambodja, laos, after that in Christian churches. Guess which country has more of those US or scandinavian.

 

[Raziaar]

Yeah but this link doesn't prove anything. As far as I know most kiddie porn is made in Taiwan,Thailand,Cambodja, laos, after that in Christian churches. Guess which country has more of those US or scandinavian.

I'm not saying it does prove anything. I'm not of the belief that scandinavian countries are the largest exporter of child porn. Simply, because I don't know, and I don't assume. All that link tells you, is that there are, at least of the time of that news article, scandinavian companies that actually professionally deal in the sale of child porn.

 

[Gray Fox]

Yeah but are they legal in scandinavia, cause it may be that in those countries, you can do porns at age 16, while in the US it's 18. So they might not be atleast by their own standarts pedophiles. But anyway unfortunatly thease groups operate in every country.

(edited:
But I don't I tend to trust more sexually open countries more than more closed like the US, simply cause if it's taboo then things get doen a lot more cause the victems feel more ashamed, but I don't know. I base my believse on reprts like thease. http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2678
And the fact that scandinavian countries the have the least amount of teen birthrates, while the Uk and US are at the bottom of the western countries, the US is beneath Bangladesh, because they teach abstance. So the more the closed country is about sex the worse it tends to be, so first take a good look at yourself before you judge others.)

 

[Raziaar]

Yeah but are they legal in scandinavia, cause it may be that in those countries, you can do porns at age 16, while in the US it's 18. So they might not be atleast by their own standarts pedophiles. But anyway unfortunatly thease groups operate in every country.

Heh. Just like you non americans can hate our laws, I can very much hate other countries laws, especially in regards to legal consent age

 

[Gray Fox]

I can understand that.
To me if the AOC in holland really is 16, then that would be really stupid to me, cause you can't vote until your 18, so why are you mature enough to have consentual sex and not able to vote. I personally have nothing against 16 AOC but lower the votingrequirments then. Besides I still think it is 18 cause a couple moths agoo a couple of soliders were arresten for having sex with 16year old girls, how ever no charges were pressed, cause the girls invited them, and liked them, and wanted it, they got with away with a warning.

 

[taeil234]

Consent laws should be well I really can't say. 13 is definitely too young but you know some 16 year old's are hot and I'll be damned if I won't be able to hit that shit when I turn 18. By that age girls and boys know what the hell they are doing.

As for pedophilia. Some guys are wired that way. I think child molesters should either be killed or have life sentences. Since there is no way a guy who wants to have sex with kids somehow change his sexuality. To me, it is useless as telling gay guys not to have gay thoughts. Of course our society is liberal enough to let gays act on what they want to do without getting stoned to death (unless it is in Texas). Pedophiles in this society want to have sex with people who are way too young in understanding and are still totally innocent with that kind of stuff (also kids are ugly). But unfortunately they are just born that way in what they desire. I have heard pedophiles go through therapy and CALSTRATION to get early releases, but to me that is useless when considering guys like Larry Flint still do other things with women even though he is physically handicapped from the waist below.

I personally do not have a hatred towards pedophiles. I pity them. But no doubt if any ****ing dude touched me I'd ****ing kick his ass. As for having sex with anything and everything else and with whatever sick fetish people have. It's fine with me as long as I don't see it.

 

[Pericolos0]

wtf guys i dunno if i have to cry or laugh with some of the stuff you say
kid porn is heavily fought against here in the benelux.
I really want to know where u got this sort of distorted view. I want any of you guys to find a dutch porn site that has legal minors

Theres always loads of dutch porn mags in the store here, and never i noticed one that had kids in it

theres a difference between age of consent and legal porn age. Its all 18+ guys. I wasnt allowed in the 'special section' of the videostory before 18

we may be very tolerant and liberal here, but that doesn't mean we've lost all sense of moral haha

 

[Hercules331]

Im movin to Holand