New Oblivion Screens

[Kyorisu]

dont make me laugh

You know and I know the xbox 360 has more power than a PC right now by far. Three processors and a GPU that hasnt even been released yet. It might not have the keyboard and mouse, but it sure as hell will push those frames per second faster than any pc. Assuming you have a HDTV, you can garuntee your screen will look better than a PC.

Laugh oh dear friend you have much to learn. There will be PC's that will run this game on full settings. Besides that the cost of the 360 will be about the price I could fully upgrade my PC (warehouse pricing).

Another thing regarding the 360's Ram. The embedded Dram sounds fun, and will suffice the hungry gfx users. 1280x720, with full screen anti-aliasing and almost no impact on framerate is damn good.

Foregoing all this the Xbox is designed as a gaming machine, it is not a multi purpsose unit. It is soley a multimedia center and nothing more.

Lastly the PC will overcome. Besides you Xbox users won't be able to do any modding. I however, will be able to mod to my delight.

 

[Cole]

Lastly the PC will overcome. Besides you Xbox users won't be able to do any modding. I however, will be able to mod to my delight.

And if it's anything like Morrowind, Modding will play one MAJOR role in the games lifespan. Not just a gimmick.

 

[DreadLord]

I love when ignorant noobs are like "omg lol, my 360 is gonna pwnz0r joor computer in da face, it has ultra leet graphics and oblvi0n is gonna look sooo hawt on it."

Shut the f*ck up. 360 isn't going to come anywhere near how good this will look on PC, just like no other console has beat a PC before.

Oh, and LMAO at no mods, gonna suck for them. XboxLive FTL.

 

[Narcolepsy]

Shut the f*ck up. 360 isn't going to come anywhere near how good this will look on PC, just like no other console has beat a PC before..

Every new generation of consoles has a brief window in which its technology will be superior to the current PCs. (The Xbox's graphics chip was more powerful than the behemoth at the time, the GeForce 3, for example.) Oblivion (not counting screen resolution) most likely WILL look better on the Xbox 360, at least until PCs catch up.

 

[Gargantou]

DreadLord, I love you(Check out my signature if you don't believe me).

 

[DreadLord]

Every new generation of consoles has a brief window in which its technology will be superior to the current PCs. (The Xbox's graphics chip was more powerful than the behemoth at the time, the GeForce 3, for example.) Oblivion (not counting screen resolution) most likely WILL look better on the Xbox 360, at least until PCs catch up.

I simply don't believe that the 360 is going to beat my dual 7800's. I accept the challenge though, and I will shell out thousands to win. Consoles suck.

 

[Axyon]

I simply don't believe that the 360 is going to beat my dual 7800's. I accept the challenge though, and I will shell out thousands to win. Consoles suck.

Prepare to accept and lose, then. ATi's custom Xenos GPU is at least a generation ahead of anything out (or soon to release) at the moment. Do your dual 7800s offer free AA? I thought not.

I'm as much a PC fanboy as an Xbox 360 one, but I thought I'd just put this troll in his place.

 

[Stigmata]

I simply don't believe that the 360 is going to beat my dual 7800's. I accept the challenge though, and I will shell out thousands to win. Consoles suck.

I'm sure you could probably win. But truth be told, that's a slim to nil chance.

The fact is, the 360's hardware will take a huge amount of money to simply match on a PC format, let alone allow said PC to match the game performance you'll get on the 360.

No matter how much you hate consoles, for whatever reason, the simple fact that the new Xboxes a) have no PC-esque multi-tasking capability, and b) all use exactly the same hardware, means that even if your computer exceeds the 360's power, it still won't run games as efficiently as the 360.

And here's a handly little piece of info: PC games are tailored to be compatible with millions of hardware and driver combinations, which means that there's simply no feasible way to fine-tune a PC game to make it run perfectly on any PC without sacrificing huge amounts of performance on thousands of other PCs.

Good luck, sir.

 

[DreadLord]

Prepare to accept and lose, then. ATi's custom Xenos GPU is at least a generation ahead of anything out (or soon to release) at the moment. Do your dual 7800s offer free AA? I thought not.

I'm as much a PC fanboy as an Xbox 360 one, but I thought I'd just put this troll in his place.

Oh f*ck off for Christ's sake Axyon. Yea I said it, I'm sick of your crap. I used to respect you but you over react on your fanboy attitude far too much. "OMG HITMAN IS GONNA LOOK SOOO GOOD" when it clearly looks crap. Accept the fact that you're not always right, and you don't need to snap whenever someone shares a different view than you. Call me a f*cking troll, go ahead, yea I start a lot of arguments over here @ hl2net, that's me. God forbid YOU realize that a $400 console isn't gonna beat crap on a PC, and all the hype that is going on now (which is usual) is going to die upon release (as usual). You honestly think ATi's custom Xenos is going to be this god send? Who gives a crap, I'd take two 7800's in a 360 over that any day.

 

[poseyjmac]

Oh f*ck off for Christ's sake Axyon. Yea I said it, I'm sick of your crap. I used to respect you but you over react on your fanboy attitude far too much. "OMG HITMAN IS GONNA LOOK SOOO GOOD" when it clearly looks crap. Accept the fact that you're not always right, and you don't need to snap whenever someone shares a different view than you. Call me a f*cking troll, go ahead, yea I start a lot of arguments over here @ hl2net, that's me. God forbid YOU realize that a $400 console isn't gonna beat crap on a PC, and all the hype that is going on now (which is usual) is going to die upon release (as usual). You honestly think ATi's custom Xenos is going to be this god send? Who gives a crap, I'd take two 7800's in a 360 over that any day.

the difference between him and you is that hes not a biased fanboy. you'd take two 7800s over a 360 anyway simply because you are biased against consoles, not because you actually care about which is faster, or care to read details about the xbox360.

 

[DreadLord]

the difference between him and you is that hes not a biased fanboy.

I'm as much a PC fanboy as an Xbox 360 one

And I said I'd take two 7800's in a 360, not over a 360, get some reading glasses. I don't think the GPU is going to be this behemoth that advertisements claim it is going to be. And it sure as HELL won't be fully utilized for at least a year or more, so Oblivion isn't going to be as super awesome as the 360 fanboys are claiming.

 

[Axyon]

Oh f*ck off for Christ's sake Axyon. Yea I said it, I'm sick of your crap. I used to respect you but you over react on your fanboy attitude far too much. "OMG HITMAN IS GONNA LOOK SOOO GOOD" when it clearly looks crap. Accept the fact that you're not always right, and you don't need to snap whenever someone shares a different view than you. Call me a f*cking troll, go ahead, yea I start a lot of arguments over here @ hl2net, that's me. God forbid YOU realize that a $400 console isn't gonna beat crap on a PC, and all the hype that is going on now (which is usual) is going to die upon release (as usual). You honestly think ATi's custom Xenos is going to be this god send? Who gives a crap, I'd take two 7800's in a 360 over that any day.

You're sick of my crap? That's fairly ironic, since you're pretty much the largest pain in the arse this forum has seen in recent times. You're belligerent, you flame, you troll and there's nothing more that I'd like to remove you from here.

Do you even know a single damn thing about the 360? I mean seriously, I bet you know nothing about the Xenos chipset and the potential it has. Your computer never was, and never will be the most powerful in the world like you tout it to be, so get over that fact and accept that this lame little console will thrash it in terms of performance power come release. Of course PCs will overtake it - just like all other console releases, they eventually do (apparently you missed reading that point that people were trying to make in this thread).

 

[Cole]

God forbid YOU realize that a $400 console isn't gonna beat crap on a PC, and all the hype that is going on now (which is usual) is going to die upon release (as usual).

But it will.

You honestly think ATi's custom Xenos is going to be this god send? Who gives a crap, I'd take two 7800's in a 360 over that any day.

Obviously you don't understand.

Axyon is 100% right. Your Dual 7800GTX's would not beat the Xbox 360.
Why?

It deals alot with Game Optimization.
The Hardware with the 360 can be made to only work with one another and work with one another in the perfect manor in every way. This is hardware wise and driver wise. You see, there can be 1,000 diffrent PC combinations. That can be EXTREMELY hard to optimize for.

Now what about Optimizing for the Xbox 360? Every 360 comes with the same parts(-hd), since you know that then you know exactly what your working with and exactly what to optimize for. You know precisly that if it works on one X360 it will work on other. This is a MAJOR feature. Why do you think Valve says HL2 for Xbox will have better lighting effects? It's because they can optimize it so much so far that they can make those lighting effects take soooo little work for the system. While on the PC that can't do that. Because you don't know if certain optimizations on one PC will lower performance on another.

Then you can do full AF\AA with no performance loss. This is something Pc's really need lol.

The CPU utilizes 3 cores. 3 CORES. Now lets remember, Todays GPU's are mostly CPU limited. Now what happens if you have a very very nice CPU....you can push even more power into that GPU. Those GPU's and CPU's are also heavily pushed by OPTIMIZATION. AGAIN. Why? They can focus the CPU on pure physic related things. While the PC the CPU is not a single focused thing. It is focused on everything. Making it the CPU just focused on physics and such...it allows them all to become sooo much faster. Having to focus on everything well...you can't optimize as good then.



I hope you relize dreadlord, your dual 7800's are very very fast, but the fact simple...
ATI's and Nvidia's and the cpu's to go with them are a generation ahead, easily mass producted and cheaply mass produced for there partner, optimized sooo much and in more ways that no pc could ever be.

When it comes down to it, right away Consoles will have better graphics. Yes Pc's will pull ahead no matter what.
And yes you will probably be able to play Oblivion with all things highest, and so will the Xbox 360. But there will be games that pull graphics beyond the PC for the Xbox 360.
A big reason?
Not everyone has a 7800 let alone 2. Games arn't going to use Dual 7800's has a standard for graphics, thus even though yes you could probably push much better graphics on your 7800's than what will be out..there wont be any games that have those graphics until later.


Seriously dude, I hope you understand. So far All Consoles right away in the start of there life have had better graphics than any PC Game at that time.
Though I am less intrested in the Xbox 360 and more intrested in PS3 and Revolution.

 

[DreadLord]

Your computer never was, and never will be the most powerful in the world like you tout it to be, so get over that fact and accept that this lame little console will thrash it in terms of performance power come release.

I'm sorry did I ever claim it was? Yea, sure I flame a ton, look at all the enemies I have on these boards, I'm a troll alright. Get over yourself. Get rid of me then, go ahead, if anyone's gonna do it, it's going to be you, as I'm friends with a fair amount of staff here, and you're the only one that has this burning hatred for me.

 

[Cole]

I'm friends with a fair amount of staff here, and you're the only one that has this burning hatred for me.

Actually it more seems that you have a burning hatred twords him.

He tells you it wont beat the Xbox 360 and you get all pist off:
"Oh f*ck off for Christ's sake Axyon. Yea I said it, I'm sick of your crap. "

 

[Axyon]

I'm sorry did I ever claim it was? Yea, sure I flame a ton, look at all the enemies I have on these boards, I'm a troll alright. Get over yourself. Get rid of me then, go ahead, if anyone's gonna do it, it's going to be you, as I'm friends with a fair amount of staff here, and you're the only one that has this burning hatred for me.

Get over myself? Buddy, I'm not the one boasting about the quantity of flaming and the amount of enemies that I have. Someone that causes disruption on a forum is not likely to be friends with its moderating staff, or maybe you'd like to introduce me to them?

 

[DreadLord]

Actually it more seems that you have a burning hatred twords him.

He tells you it wont beat the Xbox 360 and you get all pist off:
"Oh f*ck off for Christ's sake Axyon. Yea I said it, I'm sick of your crap. "

No actually, I couldn't care less about his view on the 360, this is what set me off:

but I thought I'd just put this troll in his place.

And,

Get over myself? Buddy, I'm not the one boasting about the quantity of flaming and the amount of enemies that I have. Someone that causes disruption on a forum is not likely to be friends with its moderating staff, or maybe you'd like to introduce me to them?

It's called sarcasm buddy, I was being sarcastic. I don't flame anywhere but on you, and I don't start arguments, and I don't have enemies here.

 

[Jimmeh]

I don't flame anywhere but on you, and I don't start arguments, and I don't have enemies here.

.....Yes. Yes that's right.

 

[Axyon]

It's called sarcasm buddy, I was being sarcastic. I don't flame anywhere but on you, and I don't start arguments, and I don't have enemies here.

Shall we start with this thread?

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1580003#post1580003

Now, do you really want me to sift through all of your posts and give further examples?

 

[DreadLord]

Now, do you really want me to sift through all of your posts and give further examples?

Yes, don't forget to point out all your fanboy mongering along with them though.

 

[DreadLord]

Actually I'm done with you Axyon, we'll just have to agree to not like each other, as I'm sick of the flame wars.

 

[Axyon]

Yes, don't forget to point out all your fanboy mongering along with them though.

Let's see...

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1578363#post1578363

Well, you were certainly making friends in this thread, weren't you? Unfortunately I can't find any of my 'fanboy mongering', but perhaps that's because I didn't post in the thread at all.

Actually I'm done with you Axyon, we'll just have to agree to not like each other, as I'm sick of the flame wars.

Well I'm glad that you decided that you're done with me, so very noble of you. I'm going to be watching your actions very closely from now on, so I suggest you try to keep clean. If you want to continue this, feel free to PM me.

Apologies for the thread derailment, now let's get back on-topic.

 

[Murray_H]

Xbox 360 SUX

Psyche!

I want oblivion so I can run into chains hanging in dungeons and watch them move realisticly

 

[Jangle]

I want oblivion so I can run into chains hanging in dungeons and watch them move realisticly

you could do that in real life as well you know... and you wou;ldn't have to pay £40 for it :E

 

[jdufault]

Please people stop responding to dreadlord.

Dreadlord what is the sense of being only PC, god if you have the money, buy a god damn 360 and a PC. Be Happy.

Your opinion is entitled to you, but openly stating that consoles suck shows an extreme lack of intelligence, and an extreme level of ignorance in your part. If I were you I would stop the hate, and just play all games, I dont care who the **** makes them, what system their on, or anything.

/end.

I am looking forward to this game so much, im probobly going to buy a 360 for it, I dont feel like upgrading my PC so much, because I go to college soon, and a laptop is the way to go then. The 360 would be less costly, and more economical for me. I so want to test this Radient AI out! It looks so awesome to have NPC's actually think!

 

[Cole]

you could do that in real life as well you know... and you wou;ldn't have to pay £40 for it

Well maybe you need to buy the chains......

 

[Murray_H]

Well maybe you need to buy the chains......

And a dungeon, or at least pay for travel to one.

 

[DreadLord]

Please people stop responding to dreadlord.

Dreadlord what is the sense of being only PC, god if you have the money, buy a god damn 360 and a PC. Be Happy.

Your opinion is entitled to you, but openly stating that consoles suck shows an extreme lack of intelligence, and an extreme level of ignorance in your part. If I were you I would stop the hate, and just play all games, I dont care who the **** makes them, what system their on, or anything.

/end.

I am looking forward to this game so much, im probobly going to buy a 360 for it, I dont feel like upgrading my PC so much, because I go to college soon, and a laptop is the way to go then. The 360 would be less costly, and more economical for me. I so want to test this Radient AI out! It looks so awesome to have NPC's actually think!

Oh I'll be buying all three consoles. Doesn't mean they won't suck compared to PC. I have all three current gen consoles too.

 

[clarky003]

Looks so cool, rpg's like this appeal to me much more than mmorpg's.. anyone else feel the same..?

 

[Murray_H]

Looks so cool, rpg's like this appeal to me much more than mmorpg's.. anyone else feel the same..?

Yes, I love the fact that it's single player

 

[spookymooky]

Yes, I love the fact that it's single player

unlike savage 2

/pout

 

[jdufault]

Well think about it..

MMORPG's are fun because you can interact and compete with friends. Singe player games I find fun because I can explore, learn, and have fun playing by myself, without worrying about any competition. Just have fun

 

[poseyjmac]

there was an interview a while back with the developers for oblivion. they said if you want to run oblivion at highest detail, you will need the BEST PC rig at the time of release. meanwhile they go on to say that an xbox360 will naturally be able to run at the same highest detail without a problem. i thought i had the interview bookmarked, but i guess i dont. anyway its out there.

Looks so cool, rpg's like this appeal to me much more than mmorpg's.. anyone else feel the same..?

definately. i can't really get into mmorpgs, because im entering a world where everything spoiled. everyones more powerful than me, they are at places i dream of going already, and people play the game with formulas and methods instead of a spirit of exploration and excitement. but in an rpg like oblivion its, well, not like that. plus more of a storyline and progression of main events.

 

[guchi]

definately. i can't really get into mmorpgs, because im entering a world where everything spoiled. everyones more powerful than me, they are at places i dream of going already, and people play the game with formulas and methods instead of a spirit of exploration and excitement. but in an rpg like oblivion its, well, not like that. plus more of a storyline and progression of main events.

well said, I remember traveling from one end of Vvardenfell to the other, just to explore, I wouldnt be able to do that in an MMO because I would get ganked

 

[Gargantou]

/me is an avid fan of Daggerfall, and hope he will become an avid fan of Oblivion.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Get over myself? Buddy, I'm not the one boasting about the quantity of flaming and the amount of enemies that I have. Someone that causes disruption on a forum is not likely to be friends with its moderating staff, or maybe you'd like to introduce me to them?

Although I understand Dreadlord being a pain in the ass, why not just ignore him. Be the bigger man and live up to your bigger title. That last post you made saying to PM him was a bit late.. laff. Although I personally have nothing against you and find you to be a fair headed moderator most of the time, proceeding to argue with somebody like this is not only fruitless but makes you look like you let people get to you easily.

You used your moderation powers to appear intimidating which is just as childish as dreadlord's flamebaiting. Yes you have moderation powers, please use them when necisary, but dont boast the fact and bare it like a badge when someone acts immaturely.. simply use them when you feel the time is right.

my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

The debate you two had could easily be placed in the hardware forum and be discussed maturely, and not like a squabble between two 8 year olds.

 

[Axyon]

Although I understand Dreadlord being a pain in the ass, why not just ignore him. Be the bigger man and live up to your bigger title. That last post you made saying to PM him was a bit late.. laff. Although I personally have nothing against you and find you to be a fair headed moderator most of the time, proceeding to argue with somebody like this is not only fruitless but makes you look like you let people get to you easily.

You used your moderation powers to appear intimidating which is just as childish as dreadlord's flamebaiting. Yes you have moderation powers, please use them when necisary, but dont boast the fact and bare it like a badge when someone acts immaturely.. simply use them when you feel the time is right.

my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

The debate you two had could easily be placed in the hardware forum and be discussed maturely, and not like a squabble between two 8 year olds.

As a moderator, I cannot simply just ignore people - that would render my job useless. I used my 'moderation powers' because this is not a one-off occurence, but something that I have noticed happening over and over again. I also fail to see where I 'boasted' my powers, all I was doing was attempting to resolve a situation. Remember that we too have had a history, so perhaps your advice is misplaced this time around.

 

[Cerpin]

This is supposed to be a thread about a great game, not two dudes arguing over nonsense.

 

[DreadLord]

Although I understand Dreadlord being a pain in the ass, why not just ignore him. Be the bigger man and live up to your bigger title. That last post you made saying to PM him was a bit late.. laff. Although I personally have nothing against you and find you to be a fair headed moderator most of the time, proceeding to argue with somebody like this is not only fruitless but makes you look like you let people get to you easily.

You used your moderation powers to appear intimidating which is just as childish as dreadlord's flamebaiting. Yes you have moderation powers, please use them when necisary, but dont boast the fact and bare it like a badge when someone acts immaturely.. simply use them when you feel the time is right.

my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

The debate you two had could easily be placed in the hardware forum and be discussed maturely, and not like a squabble between two 8 year olds.

It's done now... stop.

 

[DarkStar]

Every new generation of consoles has a brief window in which its technology will be superior to the current PCs. (The Xbox's graphics chip was more powerful than the behemoth at the time, the GeForce 3, for example.) Oblivion (not counting screen resolution) most likely WILL look better on the Xbox 360, at least until PCs catch up.

Simply put.....this is absolutely true.

There is no question about it.