New Steam Games Ready for Pre-Purchase!

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Dangerous Waters and Space Empires IV Deluxe, both are two new 3rd-party games making their way down the Steam pipelines. Today, these two game titles developed by Strategy First are available for pre-purchase and/or pre-load via a Steam client near you!

S.C.S - Dangerous Waters is a groundbreaking naval simulation game, and will be available via Steam for $39.95. [br]Space Empires IV Deluxe, a grand strategy title in the space 4X (explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate) genre, will also be available via Steam for just $19.95.

Both titles are scheduled for a February 7th release date. Read more about it all from Valve themselves.

 

[63]

Dangerous Waters looks pretty neat, but I don't think I'll shell out $40 for it..

 

[Mand0lesi]

nice....

hopefully we'll get demos soon

:bounce:

 

[ComradeBadger]

Good stuff, it's interesting to see Valve go from primarily being developers a form of hybrid developer publisher craziness.

I love gin.

 

[Drackard]

A mate from college was going on about the Dangerous Waters demo that he has, sounds ok, not my kinda thing though.

 

[kupocake]

Dangerous Waters looks pretty neat, but I don't think I'll shell out $40 for it..

Space Empires IV even sounds steep to me. All it is a slightly dressed up version of a 5 year old game. That's trouble for me, because, though i've seen good reviews, they're all judged by 5 year old standards. The thought of a space-based game reviewed without knowledge of the sheer extent of Homeworld 2's failings boggles my mind.

 

[Roland Deschain]

Ah homeworld, the only game where I was able to finish my homework before the harvester got to every single frigging asteriod.

 

[Epsi]

This might sound obvious, but how would I actually go about preloading without first paying in the new UI?

 

[Vegeta897]

Dangerous Waters looks like it was made in 2000.

 

[Mand0lesi]

Good stuff, it's interesting to see Valve go from primarily being developers a form of hybrid developer publisher craziness.

I love gin.

i agree on both accounts

 

[nutcrackr]

Strategy First, Graphics Last..... lololol

I remember a few of my friends talking about Space Empire around 8 years ago. Space Empires 4 is 5 years old, seems a little steep for a 5 year old game.
I guess eventually Steam will be large enough that even the relatively old or crap games get good sales.

 

[CookieCuttah]

Meh, after being spoilted by good graphics I can't help but judge these games somewhat . They look so old , it just hurts. = (

 

[Steven]

I don't want either. :|

 

[pvtbones]

Space Empires series FTW!

fun times destroying whole solar systems for the hell of it or building giant constructs around suns/planets, fun times.

 

[ironclad]

I think this calls for a poll

 

[sickre]

Look like bargain bin games to me.

 

[Zeus]

Those games look really bad (graphics wise)..that space one looks like it could be ok..is there a demo for it?

 

[boglito]

I love steam and wholeheartedly approve of the content delivery/piracy countermeassure/publishing role it has taken on, but these games are overpriced. If they had been 20 and 12 dollars instead of 40 and 20 I might have considered it, but a combined 60 bucks for two games that look more dated than my voodoo rush gfx-card is crazy. Heck, I paid 60 bucks for HL2, and that included css and dods + valve's back catalog (which I allready had ofcourse).

Too bad, because one part of me really does want to support steam (and thus valve and their games) even though I don't really need these games. I got darwinia and rdkf, though but they were much fresher and cheaper (combined).

[off topic]Any price-info on Red Orchestra yet?[/off topic]

.bog.

ps. oh, and btw, I recently found splinter cell: chaos theory and serious sam 2 in the "bargain bin" (online) for ~20 bucks each. That makes this deal look pretty rotten in comparison.

pps. I do wish both valve and strategy first good luck with this project though. I guess some people with special interest might be intrigued enough to buy the games.

 

[polyguns]

heh, that space game was made in 2000


both got decent reviews though. one a 8.1, the other an 8.2 at gamespot.

I don't get it though, unless they are just gonna sell any game that wants to be released on steam, why they would choose these. I reakon from a devs point of view, if valve splits 50/50, why not sell your game over steam? its already made, and this way you don't have much of a risk involved. you ould send a turd through steam and still sell a hundred thousand copies.


im curious, how did darwinia do?

 

[Zeus]

Well personally I bought darwinia and I liked it. Not sure for actual statistics though

 

[RabidJester]

I'll be clear about this. Dangerous Waters is probably the most complete and accurate naval warfare simulation available.

As someone who's not all "ZOMG GRAPHICS", having a great game with tons of options and realistic simulation of systems is most important to me. This game is a definite 10 on that scale.

 

[polyguns]

ool, when did you buy it?


bia proved to me that graphics don't always matter, though its graphics were still good

 

[RabidJester]

Man, it must have been back in May, I think.

There's seven fully modeled weapons platforms to play. Subs, surface ships, and airplanes.

The biggest draw to me (if I could find anyone to play with other than the hardcore guys at subsim.com) is that in multiplayer, they have multi-crew capability. It's the first serious simulation of it's kind to allow more than one person to control the stations, and it's a shit ton of fun to be on teamspeak and have a guy at the ESM station yelling like crazy because there's a contact bearing down on you.

 

[Varsity]

I love steam and wholeheartedly approve of the content delivery/piracy countermeassure/publishing role it has taken on, but these games are overpriced. If they had been 20 and 12 dollars instead of 40 and 20 I might have considered it, but a combined 60 bucks for two games that look more dated than my voodoo rush gfx-card is crazy. Heck, I paid 60 bucks for HL2, and that included css and dods + valve's back catalog (which I allready had ofcourse).

Too bad, because one part of me really does want to support steam (and thus valve and their games) even though I don't really need these games. I got darwinia and rdkf, though but they were much fresher and cheaper (combined).

With you on that one.

 

[theGreenBunny]

I echo the price sentiment. Space Empires looks interesting, but not for 20 bucks.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

I don't want either. :|

Well then lucky for you, you don't have a thing to do. And you don't have to spend any money either! Do you?


Stop complaining about nothing... Its irritating.

 

[Veotax]

im curious, how did darwinia do?

During the first three weeks Darwinia sells more copies through Steam than Introversion have managed from their website since March.

It did fantastically for Introversion.

No actual sales figures, Valve doesn't seem to like to give them out

 

[Sulkdodds]

If they had been 20 and 12 dollars instead of 40 and 20 I might have considered it, but a combined 60 bucks for two games that look more dated than my voodoo rush gfx-card is crazy.

QFE. I thought the whole point of it was to sell cheap games - because they're cheaper, more people will buy them and you save money on packaging costs anyway.

 

[Beerdude26]

QFE. I thought the whole point of it was to sell cheap games - because they're cheaper, more people will buy them and you save money on packaging costs anyway.

Yeh. 60$ is simply a bit too much for games as old as these.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

I echo the price sentiment. Space Empires looks interesting, but not for 20 bucks.

20 bucks?
on the first page it was mentioned as 40 bucks.
hmm...i don't know if i'd pay 20

 

[boglito]

20 bucks?
on the first page it was mentioned as 40 bucks.
hmm...i don't know if i'd pay 20

The naval sim is 40 bucks, the space 4x is 20. (-10% if you preorder)

.bog.

 

[RabidJester]

Yeh. 60$ is simply a bit too much for games as old as these.

Dangerous Waters came out last year.

 

[lonestar]

via a Steam client near you!

hehe

 

[wilka91]

don't care, don't care, don't care!!!!!!

these games suck, give me teh Aftermath already!!!11111

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

don't care, don't care, don't care!!!!!!

these games suck, give me teh Aftermath already!!!11111

As these games weren't developed by Valve, and take no time from Valve's development schedule, I fail to see the relevance.

 

[Beerdude26]

Dangerous Waters came out last year.

So what? I've seen games that cost the half of the price about 6 months after they were out.

 

[boglito]

don't care, don't care, don't care!!!!!!

these games suck, give me teh Aftermath already!!!11111

Successfully distributing games through steam might make valve's development budget larger. Which might be a good thing.

.bog.

 

[TwwIX]

geez!
What's next?
A bastardized version of Tetris?
All these non valve games are utter crap expect the upcoming standalone version of the Red Orchestra mod.
40 bucks for a ten year old sim?WTF!?

 

[polyguns]

yea for 60 buks i can buy hl2 and doom 3 and part of farcry.


steam won't save anyone a dime on games. Steam wasn't developed as a benefit to the consumer, just a benefit to the game maker.

its like an atm was suppose to save banks money ause they didn't have to pay a teller. but now if you go to an atm that doesn;'t belong to your bank, they charge you $$ for something that use to be free when someone was there manning the operation.

there will be more online dist, i doubt that valve will become the ea of online distribution; ea will.

I would like to see the freakout if they released a badass ompetative game like fear, or crysis on steam. or how about unreal 3 and all the tools. wouldn't that be a trip :S

 

[ZoFreX]

yea for 60 buks i can buy hl2 and doom 3 and part of farcry.


steam won't save anyone a dime on games. Steam wasn't developed as a benefit to the consumer, just a benefit to the game maker.

its like an atm was suppose to save banks money ause they didn't have to pay a teller. but now if you go to an atm that doesn;'t belong to your bank, they charge you $$ for something that use to be free when someone was there manning the operation.

there will be more online dist, i doubt that valve will become the ea of online distribution; ea will.

I would like to see the freakout if they released a badass ompetative game like fear, or crysis on steam. or how about unreal 3 and all the tools. wouldn't that be a trip :S

Actually, ATMs in this country are free...
And these poor, poor examples aside, Steam does benefit the consumer. I pay the same price for a game that I normally would and I don't have to get off my arse, and the developer gets more money so can make more and better games! And in the case of Introversion, if they get more money to spend on hookers... far as I'm concerned they deserve em! These new games do seem a tad overpriced though, especially the $40 one.. I can't remember the last time I spent that much on a single game.

Edit: There's a demo out for that spacey game.. so why isn't it on steam already?