NIN: "Cars" with Gary Numan, London

[unozero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qlUFKFHNIU&feature=sub

 

[theotherguy]

lol at Renzor with a tambourine.

This is why all 80's music needs to be remixed using modern instrumentation and recording. Sounds really great for a live recording.

 

[Vegeta897]

modern instrumentation

watchar

 

[theotherguy]

watchar

Modern synths, effects, amplification, etc.

Oh, and real drumsets.

 

[Vegeta897]

Explain how real drums sets are modern?

I don't know how to start with the "modern synths" comment. A saw wave is a saw wave. Resonating filters are resonating filters. Reverb is reverb.
Also I spy a minimoog there. That's an analog synthesizer. Incredibly oldschool.

You're talking about genre shift, not modernization.

 

[Warped]

really liked this video but this one is slightly better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKNd22GGaQ

 

[lefty]

I was hoping they'd change it up a little or something... oh well. still sounded good.

 

[theotherguy]

Explain how real drums sets are modern?

I don't know how to start with the "modern synths" comment. A saw wave is a saw wave. Resonating filters are resonating filters. Reverb is reverb.
Also I spy a minimoog there. That's an analog synthesizer. Incredibly oldschool.

You're talking about genre shift, not modernization.

That's right. When I say modernization, I mean modernization in the sense of in the modern style. What's popular today is actually in many cases technologically inferior to what was used in the 80's.

I also mean modernization in recording technology, however, which by and large has gotten better over time -- especially in terms of software.

 

[Vegeta897]

Better recording technology isn't going to make much of a difference, compared to the 80s.

In fact it's all going to get ****ed over because of modern trends in mastering.

 

[Viperidae]

What's popular today is actually in many cases technologically inferior to what was used in the 80's.

!?!? Elaborate.

 

[theotherguy]

Better recording technology isn't going to make much of a difference, compared to the 80s.

In fact it's all going to get ****ed over because of modern trends in mastering.

That's true.

The only thing that really bugs me about 80's synthpop recording was the tendency to drown the vocals in reverb and other superfluous effects, and also the reliance on (usually very cheesy) sampled instruments playing straight beats with no humanization.

 

[Vegeta897]

So basically you're talking about modern styles and production.

Talking about the instruments used or improvements in technology is really quite irrelevant and misleading.

 

[theotherguy]

!?!? Elaborate.

I mean in terms of instrumentation.

Analog synths, back to tube amps and effects,etc. etc. I actually think this is a very positive paradigm shift, as those technologies tend to be more expressive than sampled digital audio and guitars drowned in fuzzy transistor distortion.

 

[Viperidae]

Analog synths, back to tube amps and effects,etc. etc. I actually think this is a very positive paradigm shift, as those technologies tend to be more expressive than sampled digital audio and guitars drowned in fuzzy transistor distortion.

Where are you getting this?

The only reason 80s synthpop sounds cheesy is because those artists used the cheapest gear available; which at the time was early digital effects and synths. Artists that could afford high end equipment (like Rush or Bowie/Eno) would often use very expensive analogue synths, tubes amps and those 'warm' effect pedals. You're confusing what poor pop bands had to use with what rich bands could use.

What paradigm shift? Since 1990 there have been artists and aficionados who refuse to go digital. Collectors spend thousands of hours and dollars searching for shitty analogue Roland gear from the early 80s because of the prestige associated with owning a 'real' synth.

I will believe there is a paradigm shift when there is a movement to stop using computers for recording.

 

[Qonfused]

So that video was awesome guys.