No gibbage in HL2?

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I never saw any enemies get gibbed in the preview vids - is it possible to blow an enemy apart in HL2? From what I've seen the answer is no: enemies squashed under dumpsters and hit with grenades all ragdoll nicely, but never lose any limbs. Has anybody seen or heard any information to affirm/disprove?
 
We'll find out when the game's released. Theory is that gore levels have been turned down for the vids but I doubt it. The Barney shoot out that we should see next, where that guy gets blown up by a grenade and goes flying - that was much more realistic than a load of gibs flying around the place and hope it stays like that. But I guess it'd be funny to be able to gib zombies with your crowbar.
 
Although I agree that the guy flying in one peice is more realistic than total gibbage, i think its kinda dumb that a nade would land at his feet and not take off a leg. Hopefully valve will decide on a compromise.
 
Watch the Trap town video and you can see a zombie gib. (when the car explodes. Plus those are place holder gibs. So be ready for fresh new gibs in Half Life 2.
 
Realistic or not, but a guy flying 20 feet into the air is a whole lot cooler, IMO :)
 
You can cut zombies in half, thats all i care about.

Someone make a chainsaw mod!
 
The zombies also chop in half rather nicely in Trap Town. :bounce:

edit: I'm too slow as usual ;)
 
LMAO

I fecking love Mystery Men

/Falls on floor laughing.
 
Originally posted by DeathwisH
Although I agree that the guy flying in one peice is more realistic than total gibbage, i think its kinda dumb that a nade would land at his feet and not take off a leg. Hopefully valve will decide on a compromise.
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Grenades dont kill using the force of an explosion. They send ball barings out in every direction and they are what kills. It's a grenade not a large bomb or land mine. Actually there are grenades that dont use ball barings, flashbangs but they blind and stun. Unless it goes off in your pants pocket I would not expect it to take off a leg. It would probably just turn much of it into hamburger if it landed near your feet.
 
Originally posted by Anwar
Grenades dont kill using the force of an explosion. They send ball barings out in every direction and they are what kills. It's a grenade not a large bomb or land mine. Actually there are grenades that dont use ball barings, flashbangs but they blind and stun. Unless it goes off in your pants pocket I would not expect it to take off a leg. It would probably just turn much of it into hamburger if it landed near your feet.
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Not to mention the damage caused by the burning phospherus.
 
It looks very cool and uses the power of the ragdoll and physics effects. Who wouldn't like to see a guy fly from a granade and hit some barrels and then the barrels roll down the roof or something (uber coolness!)
 
How about being thrown through a glass window on the 10th floor by the blast of a grenade? :)
 
Originally posted by Anwar
Grenades dont kill using the force of an explosion. They send ball barings out in every direction and they are what kills. It's a grenade not a large bomb or land mine. Actually there are grenades that dont use ball barings, flashbangs but they blind and stun. Unless it goes off in your pants pocket I would not expect it to take off a leg. It would probably just turn much of it into hamburger if it landed near your feet.
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There are many, many differant types of grenades.....a concussion grenade for example....kills with its explosive force..and not so much its shrapnel.(although the steel casing of a concussion grenade is plenty deadly)
 
Wonder what will happen to a Combine soldier when I shoot him with my dad's Armelite AR50 from 1000 yards? :borg: Wait, make that Army surplus Armor Piercing .50 Caliber rounds.
 
Well, If you ask me. i think if a combine or something is hit by a grenade they should ahve tons and tons of sharpnel decals rather than being gibbed. but that would only be for the grenade. other explosives....let them gib :D
 
Originally posted by Anwar
Grenades dont kill using the force of an explosion. They send ball barings out in every direction and they are what kills. It's a grenade not a large bomb or land mine. Actually there are grenades that dont use ball barings, flashbangs but they blind and stun. Unless it goes off in your pants pocket I would not expect it to take off a leg. It would probably just turn much of it into hamburger if it landed near your feet.
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Frag grenades dont mostly use ball bearings. Its mainly peices of metal...shrapnel etc. A grenade can pretty much kill you 2 ways: A. Being hit by tons of shrapnel(and some ball bearings) or B. Concussion, if the grenade is close enough.

Mines however, use ball bearings more often. Most of you have probly heard of the Claymore mine. The claymore mine is pretty much just a giant shotgun that goes off when you step on it. Those will take both your legs off with ease. (even though i dont think there are mines in hl2.) With mines like claymores, the closer you are to the grownd the safer you are. Thats why the Bouncing Bette, which jumps 10 feet in the air before it explodes, so no one close is safe :bounce:
 
Originally posted by BWMASTER
no more rocket jumping? ;(
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Actually, provided you don't just instantly gib yourself, the ragdoll physics could make for some fun death-rocket-jumping...

Launch your limp body over tall obstacles, or over cliffs... lol - Multiplayer will be quite a comedic experience methinks.
 
The zombie and half-zombie are clearly two different enemies that are cleverly used together to seem like it gets cut - and what about getting squashed? When a soldier gets squashed under the blue dumpster (about 2" of clearance) they don't do anything except clip through the side.
 
I know it's not the end of the world but I hope that clipping gets fixed- either conveniently strip the relevant part off the Combine troop (to at least create the illusion of being crushed) or, more "realistically" if they can't be flattened, aligning the dumpster to a slanted angle.

And I thought the sliced up zombie was cool too :cheers:
Although the one that walks at Gordon looks like it was torn in half by the explosive barrel instead of the fan- the way it appears high up and then falls down again is a little wierd too...
 
ball bearings are most commonly found in claymore mines
 
incendary grenades would be fun to have if they wouldn't have been made redundant by the incendary projectile launcher. You know, having ball bearings richochet off of every hard surface in a tunnel would make a really cool visual.

Lets not forget that the source engine will amplify the effects of explosions if they are constricted enough. So you could actually have some of those "explosion chasing you down a tunnel" sequences
 
When the zombie gets crushed by the trapped car, it gibs but... are those placeholder gibs? Looks alot like the HL1 ones to me.
 
if put drop a grenade under a combine, i wouldn't his body to fly 20 feet cuz that's unrealistic. maybe take out a leg or two, and make his body fly 5-10 feet.

in the traptown vid, the big beams that gordon shoots should be able to cut combines in half if going fast enough (like lope off a head, hehe)
 
Originally posted by xtekian
in the traptown vid, the big beams that gordon shoots should be able to cut combines in half if going fast enough (like lope off a head, hehe)
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Umm no it wouldnt. Its too big. It would just bust them up really badly.
 
Originally posted by xtekian
if put drop a grenade under a combine, i wouldn't his body to fly 20 feet cuz that's unrealistic. maybe take out a leg or two, and make his body fly 5-10 feet.

in the traptown vid, the big beams that gordon shoots should be able to cut combines in half if going fast enough (like lope off a head, hehe)
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The combine might be wearing some sort of protective armor/suit, which protects them from gibbing.
 
I'm just wondering whats gonna happen when you nail one with a rocket...
 
it was so funny how u could change the gib amount in hl so like 10 skulls fly out. i want to have more of that :)
 
What they really ought to aim for is gib where gib should be. But flinging bodies where thats appropriate as well. Like if a nade goes of next to someone, maybe blow a leg or two off, then send the body flying. A nice balance would be good :)
 
Originally posted by [Hunter]Ridic
Frag grenades dont mostly use ball bearings. Its mainly peices of metal...shrapnel etc. A grenade can pretty much kill you 2 ways: A. Being hit by tons of shrapnel(and some ball bearings) or B. Concussion, if the grenade is close enough.

Mines however, use ball bearings more often. Most of you have probly heard of the Claymore mine. The claymore mine is pretty much just a giant shotgun that goes off when you step on it. Those will take both your legs off with ease. (even though i dont think there are mines in hl2.) With mines like claymores, the closer you are to the grownd the safer you are. Thats why the Bouncing Bette, which jumps 10 feet in the air before it explodes, so no one close is safe :bounce:
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Yes they do use mostly ball bearings. Ball bearings ARE the defination of shrapniel when used in a grenade. This is also pointless since my reply was to a person talking about not having gibs and how it detracts from reality when infact gibs are not real. Why you bring mines into this I dont know... it was about grenades. The reason a mine will take off a leg is because you leg is in contact with the explosion and they use much much more explosive.

really what about my post are you disputing? Modern grenades do mostly use ball bearings anyways, but its not required you just need anything that when flying a few hundred feet per second will stick in someone.

Back to my point. Grenades don't make gibs in real life and they throw shrapniel to kill. All of them...
 
They make an explosion just big enough to break the grenade apart, the only thing damaging is the shock wave it sends out and the shrapnel
 
State of emergency had some good gibs, although a little cartoony.

and you could pick up say a dismembered head, leg etc... and belt inocent bystanders with it

I didn't do that though, a friend of a freinds sick twisted brother told me :angel:

(eyes dart suspiciosly) :naughty:

It would ruin hl2 though if it were in
 
im getting that game on the pc pretty quick hope its worth it.
 
if your talkin bout state of emergency
its not that great, i liked it for eight days on ps2, just long enough not to get my money back at eb (7 day money back garrenty)
 
Although I agree that the guy flying in one peice is more realistic than total gibbage, i think its kinda dumb that a nade would land at his feet and not take off a leg.
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Sure, but if you havea choice of gibbage or ragdoll, which would you choose?
 
Originally posted by Logic
Actually, provided you don't just instantly gib yourself, the ragdoll physics could make for some fun death-rocket-jumping...

Launch your limp body over tall obstacles, or over cliffs... lol - Multiplayer will be quite a comedic experience methinks.
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Nope, sorry. Valve have stated many a time that they aren't going to let rocket-jumping be a part of HL2 as it's unrealistic and annoying.
Same with bunny-hopping.
 
I never said conventional rocket jumping... death rocket jumping!

Think about it.. if you are on lowish health and you shoot a rocket at the ground beneath you just as you jump, you'll die, and the explosion will throw your lifeless ragdoll-physics-activated body through the air in an entertaining manner. I thought it was pretty clear what I meant myself :cheese:
 
Dunno if anyone noticed but in the traptown movie when he drops from down towards the spinning blades theres a zombie next to him. The player then points and shoots the legs of the zombie which I took it as he was proberbly trying to shoot his legs off?
Anyone else agree?
 
gibbage AND ragdoll...like ut2k3. :)

blow off their upper body and watch their legs go flying. :)
 
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