No shite sherlock: CIA says Iraq is now terrorist training camp

Icarusintel said:
ummmm.... dunno what this whole "karma payback time" thing is (is this a move in Mortal Kombat 4?) but, well, the only reason i can ever see for us taking canada is to get your trees, but still, what do you have in canada that's of any interest to the US?
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Nah, if anything it'll be for our vast fresh water. :E
 
A True Canadian said:
Nah, if anything it'll be for our vast fresh water. :E
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are there any hot women up that way? cause that's always a good reason to go to war
 
Icarusintel said:
ummmm.... dunno what this whole "karma payback time" thing is (is this a move in Mortal Kombat 4?)
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think 9/11 but on a grander scale


Icarusintel said:
but, well, the only reason i can ever see for us taking canada is to get your trees,
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you already steal it from us as it is


Icarusintel said:
but still, what do you have in canada that's of any interest to the US?
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you'll think of something
 
Icarusintel said:
are there any hot women up that way? cause that's always a good reason to go to war
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not too many women impressed with yankee accents ...makes you sound a little ....slow
 
CptStern said:
not too many women impressed with yankee accents ...makes you sound a little ....slow
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What about southern accents? :D
 
well considering I like you ...I'll keep my mouth shut :E
 
No no!

I demand a better answer!I know most girls here like the southern accent ;)...Question is do candian women like/would like a southern accent? :p
 
Tr0n said:
No no!

I demand a better answer!I know most girls here like the southern accent ;)...Question is do candian women like/would like a southern accent? :p
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i like women with a southern accent, something about it just makes me all hot and bothered
 
Tr0n said:
No no!

I demand a better answer!I know most girls here like the southern accent ;)...Question is do candian women like/would like a southern accent? :p
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I'm not a canadian woman, so I cant really say for sure :) ...but no ..sorry ...maybe in the Prairies or Alberta but usually not city folk ...we've watched too many re-runs of the Dukes of Hazzard, Deliverence and Smokey and the Bandit to like southern accents ...although women with southern accents can sometimes be hot ...depending who it is
 
Oh well, at least it works on american women...and guys..
 
Tr0n said:
Oh well, at least it works on american women...and guys..
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actually we just dont like the stereotypes ...my american cousin has a southern accent and he's a nice guy
 
Icarusintel said:
something you wanna tell us?;)
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Negative! (qckbeam loves my accent) :p
CptStern said:
actually we just dont like the stereotypes ...my american cousin has a southern accent and he's a nice guy
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So am I...well actually I'm kinda an asshole...but hey we all can't be perfect. :D
 
Icarusintel said:
You want something ridiculous? How about the constant news reports of everything bad happening in Iraq and Afghanistan and barely anything mentioned about the things that are being done to help those countries, and its not just the US doing these good things, its the Coalition
One of the most enlightening views I got on the war in Iraq came from a Japanese finance official who was stationed there to help make sure the JSDF was getting the money it needed to help improve the area they were stationed at

looks more like Three's Company
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You want to hear something rediculous? Conservatives know that Iraq had no WMDs, the main justification for the war. Conservatives know that the terrorist part of the original justification was bullshit as now we created the perfect terrorist state as the CIA said. And conservatives know the Bush lied and misused intelligence to mislead us in to war based on the many things that have been posted here in the last month. Yet, they will not admit that Bush did wrong and claim some bullshit about no good news getting reported from Iraq. What good news? Are you insane? Rebuilding a hospital is not good news when you destroyed it in the first place and allowed years of hell where Iraqis couldn't even get simple medical care let alone electricity and running water. Sure, you rebuilt a few schools, but that is hardly good news considering you destroyed a very good education infostracture that insured each person got a good education under Saddam, now the schools are in total ruins. Sure you had an election (which contrary to your claims was reported on for weeks on mainstream media) but that election doesn't mean shit when the country is on the verge of civil war and the 2nd largest group in Iraq refuses to participate. Read up on what is really going on in Iraq, the bad news all outweights the good. But the main point is that Iraq, the US, and the world would have been a much better place right now if Bush didn't go on his crusade and started an illegal invasion. We already lost around 300 billions dollars, enough to insure every child in this country, enough to pay for years of education, enough to secure the security holes in this country, enough to send each high school grad to collage, and still have some left. Iraq is in total waste when nothing is going according to plan. The view around the world of America has been damaged so much we might never get our good image back. And now we find out that Iraq is the perfect training camp for terrorists around the world, including the US. And you have the decency to say this doesn't matter as nobody is reporting good news out of Iraq? You apologists for Bush and Republicans in congress make me sick. You will not accept the most basic facts (facts the entire world knows but you won't admit) while thousands have died for lies.

Stop drinking the kool-aide, this is honestly getting sickening. Learn to think for yourself. Learn to care about human life. Learn that Bush isn't God and that he ****ed up big time.
 
The biggest crush I ever had on anybody was a girl with a southern accent. Very easy on the eyes as well.

Too bad she had a boyfriend (my friend). But she was great to talk to. Oh, how interesting things can get when a drunk liberal atheist fights with a drunk religious conservative. :)
 
Absinthe said:
The biggest crush I ever had on anybody was a girl with a southern accent. Very easy on the eyes as well.

Too bad she had a boyfriend (my friend). But she was great to talk to. Oh, how interesting things can get when a drunk liberal atheist fights with a drunk religious conservative. :)
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same here, i was down at myrtle beach when i saw the girl, damn was she fine in that green bikini, and when she talked i just melted, too bad she lives like 7 hours away

For NoLimit - all i'm saying is the media's only been presenting one side, the least they could do is give a minute of air time to good things that are being done in iraq, and last i check the JSDF didn;t destroy anything as they are not allowed to fight, so any contributions they make are purely a profit to iraq
 
Icarusintel said:
same here, i was down at myrtle beach when i saw the girl, damn was she fine in that green bikini, and when she talked i just melted, too bad she lives like 7 hours away

For NoLimit - all i'm saying is the media's only been presenting one side, the least they could do is give a minute of air time to good things that are being done in iraq, and last i check the JSDF didn;t destroy anything as they are not allowed to fight, so any contributions they make are purely a profit to iraq
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I know what yo are saying and I know why you are saying it, to avoid the actual topic. All I want to know is if you think this war was a mistake? If you say it wasn't I want you to explain how having Iraq as the biggest terrorist training camp is a good thing.

Contrary to what you say the media does report on good things in Iraq. They report when top terrorist leaders are captured, they reported greatly on the election, they repeated the talking points the white house puts out about everything being just dandy over ther. The problem is that the bad far out weighs the good. What good news would you like the news media to report on that they ignored? But before you get into that answer my question.
 
No Limit said:
I know what yo are saying and I know why you are saying it, to avoid the actual topic. All I want to know is if you think this war was a mistake? If you say it wasn't I want you to explain how having Iraq as the biggest terrorist training camp is a good thing.
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I don;t see the war as a mistake, because while it is a large terrorist training ground, it's also a large training ground for American soldiers, and they're learning skills that can't easily be taught on any kind of base or training facility

i'd like to see more stories about the accomplishments of units and individuals in helping restore water and electricity and improving roads, stuff like that, stuff that shows the soldiers in a different light, because they're doing a helluva lot more than just attacking and being attacked by insurgents
 
Icarusintel said:
I don;t see the war as a mistake, because while it is a large terrorist training ground, it's also a large training ground for American soldiers, and they're learning skills that can't easily be taught on any kind of base or training facility
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you're kidding right? 18,000 dead iraqi civilians and 1700 dead US soldiers and you're justifying it by saying it's good training? wtf is wrong with you?
 
I don;t see the war as a mistake, because while it is a large terrorist training ground, it's also a large training ground for American soldiers, and they're learning skills that can't easily be taught on any kind of base or training facility
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God, I hope you are kidding. If you aren't I see no more hope for America.
 
CptStern said:
you're kidding right? 18,000 dead iraqi civilians and 1700 dead US soldiers and you're justifying it by saying it's good training? wtf is wrong with you?
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the only thing i can think of that might be wrong with me is accepting certain inevitabilities, and accepting the past, and if accepting it and trying to glean some good out of the bad is a horrible thing, well, then i guess i'm a horrible person
No Limit said:
God, I hope you are kidding. If you aren't I see no more hope for America.
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no, i'm not kidding, no hope for america, eh? well, i'm just one american, and there's plenty of people to counteract my views, don;t you think you're being a little over dramatic here, this place was founded on freedom of thought and speech, and i certainly don;t represent everyone
 
Icarusintel said:
the only thing i can think of that might be wrong with me is accepting certain inevitabilities, and accepting the past, and if accepting it and trying to glean some good out of the bad is a horrible thing, well, then i guess i'm a horrible person
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No, you are a horrible person because you do not give a shit 18,000 families in Iraq and around the world have been destroyed and over 1,700 families in the US have lost a loved one. You brush this off as oh well, thats in the past. If you had a family member die in a war that you knew was based on lies you certainly wouldn't be saying "oh well, its inevitable", you would want justice for your loved one. Do you fail to see how disgusting your statements are? Do you think if you were faced with a mother that is opposed to this war and wants justice for her child who died in Iraq you would say the same thing? "Oh well, you can't dwell on the past, just forget about it and be sure to vote Republican in 06 and 08". Again, you disgust me.
 
no, i'm not kidding, no hope for america, eh? well, i'm just one american, and there's plenty of people to counteract my views, don;t you think you're being a little over dramatic here, this place was founded on freedom of thought and speech, and i certainly don;t represent everyone
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You represent the right wing in this country, they are share the same view as you on the Iraq war. They don't give a shit that Bush lied, they don't give a shit that 1,700 of their fellow americans have died for this lie, they don't care that 18,000 civillians have lost their lives for this lie, they don't care they destroyed an entire country, and they don't care we started a conflict we might never be able to finish.
 
Icarusintel said:
the only thing i can think of that might be wrong with me is accepting certain inevitabilities, and accepting the past, and if accepting it and trying to glean some good out of the bad is a horrible thing, well, then i guess i'm a horrible person
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you're not accepting the past if you were, you wouldnt be a bush supporter ...you'd be asking for accountability and the impeachment of a president who lied to 300,000,000 americans and put their lives in jeopardy

what good could possibly come from Iraq? civil war is just around the corner, you've created more enemies of the US that will stop at nothing but the utter destruction of your country and you've spit on international law ...you're just going to let that all slip by? ...for a person in the military youarent exactly serving your country to the best of your abilities
 
CptStern said:
you're not accepting the past if you were, you wouldnt be a bush supporter ...you'd be asking for accountability and the impeachment of a president who lied to 300,000,000 americans and put their lives in jeopardy

what good could possibly come from Iraq? civil war is just around the corner, you've created more enemies of the US that will stop at nothing but the utter destruction of your country and you've spit on international law ...you're just going to let that all slip by? ...for a person in the military youarent exactly serving your country to the best of your abilities
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well, i'm not in the military yet, i'm gonna finish college first, so there's still time for people to try to sway me to their politics, but as of right now, the only thing i think should really be done is showing support for the troops, they were sent over there, had a job to do, the politics behind it can be sorted out later, but right now we can;t just leave
maybe i should have said i accept the present, because i accept that we're in iraq, and we're not getting out any time soon, bush lied, alright, fine, i accept, great, someone can try to imp[each him if they want, but what kind of message does that send to the troops about their commander-in-chief?

To NoLimit - I'm only right-wing on certain things, but i still support thing like abortion and gays being able to marry, so don;t label me right-wing and think it's as simple as that, because it never is
 
yes but dont you think you owe it to yourself to know the facts before it's too late and you find yourself in some foreign land guarding oil reserves?
 
CptStern said:
yes but dont you think you owe it to yourself to know the facts before it's too late and you find yourself in some foreign land guarding oil reserves?
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oh trust me, as long as i've been on this board i've heard plenty of facts about iraq
 
Icarusintel said:
oh trust me, as long as i've been on this board i've heard plenty of facts about iraq
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"hearing" and "listening" are 2 different things
 
CptStern said:
"hearing" and "listening" are 2 different things
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well, since i have selective hearing as it is i guess i';m just plain screwed
sucks to be a republican at a time when one is in the white house and they have the majority of congress.... or not
 
wont be saying that time when it's karma payback time
 
CptStern said:
karma payback time
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you should trademark that, especially if you're gonna keep saying it, too bad i don;t believe in karma, actuallt, i don;t believe in much at all, atheism's so mcuh fun
 
Icarusintel said:
you should trademark that, especially if you're gonna keep saying it, too bad i don;t believe in karma, actuallt, i don;t believe in much at all, atheism's so mcuh fun
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do you believe in "what goes around comes around"? ...same principle ...and I'm agnostic
 
CptStern said:
do you believe in "what goes around comes around"? ...same principle ...and I'm agnostic
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i believe in it for things that happen to me, but sadly, and thankfully sometimes, it doesn;t work that way a lot in the bigger picture
 
Icarusintel said:
To NoLimit - I'm only right-wing on certain things, but i still support thing like abortion and gays being able to marry, so don;t label me right-wing and think it's as simple as that, because it never is
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You are pretty much right wing in the way you wont accept facts. However, I was talking about the war; you represent the right wing in that regard. I really do hate to be a dick but your posts are making my head hurt. It sounds to me like the position that Iraq is good has been impanted in your brain and you aren't capabale of anything else. You have not been able to defend why we went to war, why its good for us to be there, and what good will come out of it. However, you still support it. This is about as far right wing fanatical as you can get when it comes to the war.
 
Icarusintel said:
i believe in it for things that happen to me, but sadly, and thankfully sometimes, it doesn;t work that way a lot in the bigger picture
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I agree, but in this case ...sadly it's inevitable:


"The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda"
 
CptStern said:
I agree, but in this case ...sadly it's inevitable:


"The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda"
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this is why i keep guns in my house, and lots of them

To NoLimit - glad to be of service
 
Icarusintel said:
this is why i keep guns in my house, and lots of them

To NoLimit - glad to be of service
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what you gonna do? shoot every suspicious looking person you see? all the handguns in the world wont stop a runaway 747 or a carload of explosives
 
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