Not enough Vampires!!!

[Yakuza]

Okay so there is bloodlines coming out sometime in late 2004 or early 2005. But I was thinking of a Vampire Mod that takes place back in the day with a medieval setting of sort. You are a vampire assassin so to speak. You are used by a higher ranking Clan of Vampires to keep order and to eliminate the weak or any threat to the Vampire Society.

Or maybe you could play as a Vampire or a Liken (werewolf). Used by the same Clan to do the same kind of biding.

Another idea I had was kind of along the lines of what happened in the Masquerade. Where it goes from the past to the present.

Any ways I think there is some room for Vampires in this community.

Also if any one wants to know. I do concept art, a very little modeling, and some animation.

 

[Shinobi]

hmmm,, regardless of the setting, you'd be going up against troika's vampire game,, and besides using the source engine, troika are IMO some of the best game designers in the industry

 

[qckbeam]

Like Shinobi said, you'd be going up against Troikas Bloodlines game. No matter what you do your mod would be compared to their professional quality AAA title. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just saying that unless you can surpass Troikas game, your mod would either go unnoticed, or be held up to the very high standards of a AAA title and subsequently bashed for failing to meet them (perhaps unfairly, but that's the way it goes).

 

[Yakuza]

Like Shinobi said, you'd be going up against Troikas Bloodlines game. No matter what you do your mod would be compared to their professional quality AAA title. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just saying that unless you can surpass Troikas game, your mod would either go unnoticed, or be held up to the very high standards of a AAA title and subsequently bashed for failing to meet them (perhaps unfairly, but that's the way it goes).

meh, I never think of things in the sence that I would have greater compition. I know Troika has a ton of "experts" working on their team. But then again so did battlefield 1942, and I play DC more than 1942.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Go on say it, you just want to make a Van Helsing mod. It's pretty obvious



I partly can't blame you neither, could be fun with all his batman gadgets, van helsing gadgets rather.. :E

 

[IchI]

lol, I am guessing you have seen Van Hellsing then This happens all the time. I wish people would make up there own original ideas rather than just copying the latest film

 

[Maxi]

Somehow van helsing reminds me of painkiller.

 

[Majestic XII]

somehow van helsing reminds me of the show hellsing

 

[Yakuza]

LoL, that would seem to make since. Actualy my vampire idea jumped into my head when I was watching one of the new thief game videos.

You would play the role of a vampire who assassinates other vampires and humans alike.

Besides I hate doing remakes. I like to have total creative control. Also Van Hellsing sucked.

If there was one movie or something that has realy inspired me its the movie Underworld.

 

[The Dark Elf]

LoL, that would seem to make since. Actualy my vampire idea jumped into my head when I was watching one of the new thief game videos.

You would play the role of a vampire who assassinates other vampires and humans alike.

Besides I hate doing remakes. I like to have total creative control. Also Van Hellsing sucked.

If there was one movie or something that has realy inspired me its the movie Underworld.

Sounds like Blade or Underworld then

 

[ComradeBadger]

lol, I am guessing you have seen Van Hellsing then This happens all the time. I wish people would make up there own original ideas rather than just copying the latest film

I know what you mean, but, there is still room for mods based on films tbh.

I personally want to see a mod based on: Batman, the proper camp one!

 

[The Dark Elf]

I know what you mean, but, there is still room for mods based on films tbh.

I personally want to see a mod based on: Batman, the proper camp one!

I don't

Though I'd like to see a faithful one done on the two decent batman movies, the Tim Burton ones, not the horrid excuse to kill it all off that came after.

 

[X_i_Z_o_R]

Hey Yakuza

I'm currently developing a modern day vampires mod called Bloodthirst. Fast paced teamplay oriented mod. I know it's not quite what you have in mind but if you're interested please check out www.bloodthirst.org We're just setting up and looking for developers.

 

[qckbeam]

meh, I never think of things in the sence that I would have greater compition. I know Troika has a ton of "experts" working on their team. But then again so did battlefield 1942, and I play DC more than 1942.

Ok, that's a great attitude to take and all, but what's with putting experts in quotes? They ARE experts Yakuza. You would be pitting yourself against an expert team, developing a full fledged vampire game on the source engine. You would be an amateur team making a vampire mod on the source engine. Just know that if you were to pull it off and even get the mod out the door you'd be judged much harsher than other mods. You would be compared to Bloodlines, there is no doubt about that. It's something you should acknowledge and understand before heading off to develop. That way you can plan it so that your mod has some very unique features separating it from Bloodlines (as well as everything else out there).

 

[Yakuza]

Ok, that's a great attitude to take and all, but what's with putting experts in quotes? They ARE experts Yakuza. You would be pitting yourself against an expert team, developing a full fledged vampire game on the source engine. You would be an amateur team making a vampire mod on the source engine. Just know that if you were to pull it off and even get the mod out the door you'd be judged much harsher than other mods. You would be compared to Bloodlines, there is no doubt about that. It's something you should acknowledge and understand before heading off to develop. That way you can plan it so that your mod has some very unique features separating it from Bloodlines (as well as everything else out there).

I put experts in quotes because, experts are not a neccesity for a great game. There are a tone of games out there That suck, yet were done by experts. I do however give it up to the guys who bust there butt dont get me wrong. And it also depends on how "good" bloodlines is. If it is completly horrible than the bar of comparison might not be that high.

I totaly agree with what you said here:

That way you can plan it so that your mod has some very unique features separating it from Bloodlines (as well as everything else out there).

I am all about looking at the big dogs and trying to come up with something they havent done yet, something a little different. I just dont get into that frame of mind that "just cause there bigger".

 

[Shinobi]

uhhh man when it comes to troika, they are experts at gameplay

here's their track record


fallout
arcanum
greyhawk:TOEE
and now that vampire game

fallout and arcanum are 2 of the best computer rpg's ever... so gameplay-wise, I'd say they're experts,,

Troika is at the top of my dream job list

 

[PinFX]

First of all, TOEE sucked (although i worship fallout/arcanum [non-bioware PC RPGs of power] ). Also, VAMPIRE HUNTER D!!!

ANYWAYS, the amount of lore and fiction based around vampires is... vast. And not just in terms of spinoffs and clones, but completely different focuses on completely different elements. In other words, go for it.

 

[Yakuza]

First of all, TOEE sucked (although i worship fallout/arcanum [non-bioware PC RPGs of power] ). Also, VAMPIRE HUNTER D!!!

ANYWAYS, the amount of lore and fiction based around vampires is... vast. And not just in terms of spinoffs and clones, but completely different focuses on completely different elements. In other words, go for it.

Thats exactly how I feel. I mean yeah maybe people would compare it with a bigger company, but its not like a clone that resmebles every other mod out there. And Vampire Hunter D owns.....

I am thinking though of a vampire story that takes place in ancient times,
With a not so cliche vampire plot.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

Bloodlines makes me moist, it has since I saw it back last e3
btw
Vampire The Masquerade: Redemption
was an awesome Rpg too.

Christoph wewt.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I personally want to see a mod based on: Batman, the proper camp one!

Sometimes you just can't get rid of a bomb!


Anywho, here's just a little personal opinion:
I hate vampires and I hate their gothy ways! They're always:
"Oh. I am depressed because of my superpowers. The blessing of immortality is also a curse. Sigh."
They are specifically responsible for the Matrix sequels!

 

[The Dark Elf]

"Oh. I am depressed because of my superpowers. The blessing of immortality is also a curse. Sigh."

lol! excellent

 

[Shinobi]

First of all, TOEE sucked (although i worship fallout/arcanum [non-bioware PC RPGs of power] ).
.

yeah that's true, but consider this,, it took less than half the time of arcanum to produce.. they're one game to actually meet the 18 month product cycle


all this talk about arcanum is making me nostalgic,, I'm very tempted to start a new game...

 

[PinFX]

That was a pretty wicked game, I think Bioware topped all PC RPGs last year with KOTOR though.

 

[Yakuza]

yeah that's true, but consider this,, it took less than half the time of arcanum to produce.. they're one game to actually meet the 18 month product cycle


all this talk about arcanum is making me nostalgic,, I'm very tempted to start a new game...

And thats all that I was saying earlier. Just cause you are an "expert" doesn't mean that you wont make crappy games.

 

[Shinobi]

and I'm saying regardless they made 2 of the best if not the best games,, TOEE is not going to ruin my faith in troika,, also it wasn't a bad game, it's hard when you have to live up to revolutionary

 

[Yakuza]

Sometimes you just can't get rid of a bomb!


Anywho, here's just a little personal opinion:
I hate vampires and I hate their gothy ways! They're always:
"Oh. I am depressed because of my superpowers. The blessing of immortality is also a curse. Sigh."
They are specifically responsible for the Matrix sequels!

I agree, thats why my idea is not realy so gothy.

My idea is based off a scripture verse in the bible.

"God has made good what you intended for evil."

They Question is.....Can a Vampire be used for good? Can a Vampire be used to bring Gods Vengence to all Vampires who persue a path of Evil?

This guys gets turned into a vampire against his will. Although he loves God he now embodies everything evil. But what if God gave this person the ability to use the Vampire powers, intagled with holy powers to be a bringer of death to all Vampires and evil creatures. Simply because he loves God even in his body of evil.

 

[hiln]

I'd say go for it. If you can make interesting characters, original story and situations, then it doesn't matter how many other vamp games are out. Not to mention the fact that some people would rather get a free game then a $49 game(that is if you do this and you don't charge for your mod).

I'd say good luck, determination is a very good thing.

If your serious, I'd recomend you start writing a well thought out story, how you want the game mechanics to be, and whatever else. Then later get a team together when you have a good idea what you want. (also, try not to copy of the rules of other people's vampires, make them your own. I beleive the underworld people are being sued for copying some vampire: masqerade stuff or something, look into it).

take it easy

 

[PinFX]

ya if you are even thinking about it I think you should brainstorm and just start putting down a few ideas.

 

[Morlock]

Okay so there is bloodlines coming out sometime in late 2004 or early 2005. But I was thinking of a Vampire Mod that takes place back in the day with a medieval setting of sort. You are a vampire assassin so to speak. You are used by a higher ranking Clan of Vampires to keep order and to eliminate the weak or any threat to the Vampire Society.

Or maybe you could play as a Vampire or a Liken (werewolf). Used by the same Clan to do the same kind of biding.

Another idea I had was kind of along the lines of what happened in the Masquerade. Where it goes from the past to the present.

Any ways I think there is some room for Vampires in this community.

Also if any one wants to know. I do concept art, a very little modeling, and some animation

I'd play it. It sounds just like Vampire: Dark Ages, from White Wolf (they created VtM).

I think it would be distinct enough from the bloodlines game to stand on its own, personally. Medieval vampire game, modern vampire game...BIG difference, in terms of mood, gameplay, and well, just about everything.

The best way to do this might be to collaborate with one of the existing medieval mods, sort of a mod of a mod, since so much of the work you'd be doing would be redundant otherwise.

edit: nitpick alert: it's Lycan, not Liken. It's short for Lycanthrope.

 

[Styloid]

I think it is a fine idea if you flesh out your story and world a little more. It does seem to be 'just another vampire' idea right now so you have to put a bit more of a personal touch into it. Think up what the gameplay will be like, what the atmosphere would be like, the story, etc.