Nvidia going the way of 3DFX?

[Arrowhead]

It doesn't look good. alot of people seem to prefer ATI nowadays. myself included. last week I was set on buying a new geforce card, but after a little research, I came to my senses and settled with the R9600 pro. I couldn't be happier.

I looked at the FX5600 from all angles, tried to find the advantages and came up dry. ATI really does have the edge now, and with more and more people realizing that, Nvidia is losing big!

I think unless they do something to drasticly improve their next generation line, Nvidia is going the way of the dodo.

I kinda feel sorry for the people who still have faith in Geforce because of its good history, but have been practicly ripped off with buying the psuedo 'mid-range' FX5600.

 

[Sgt.Igneri]

Nah, this always happens. Last year ATI was like Nvidia now. Soon ATI will be way behind again.

 

[SpineofGod]

Theres alot more to it than Nvidia being behind technology wise, because with the FX 5900 the two companies are fairly even. Nvidia's problem is their recent shady practices which are turning people off. If they would stick to developing good hardware and good stable drivers instead of "optimizing" drivers just to get a few more numbers theyd be fine.

 

[Hudson]

im probably going to go the route of ATI when i get enough money, nvidia suddenly seems dirty :bounce:

 

[Patten]

I to was going to get an Nvidia card because of how good my Geforce 3 has been to me and still is pretty nice, will run lots of games fine.

Nvidia really built some bad cards with the FX line and all the people saying Nvidia cheated with the 5900, and most people proved that they did really just made me look at my choices for video cards again and ATI seems to be the better card right now.

Nvidia better figure out what they are doing soon so they can get back into the battle, but I dont beleive they are at all going to go away any time soon.

Right now I would go with an ATI card, and until Nvidia makes a good card with no big "optimizations" then I will keep on buying from ATI, unless they also hit a rut in the road and make a bad card, then I will just have to not play on my computer ;( :O .

 

[Ridic]

if the little shit heads over at nvidia have thier minds set on toneing down image quality to boost fps then im stickign with ati %100.

and plus, i dont even get why nvidia is toneing down the iq...it barely gives more fps. i remember when i upgraded my ram, i could play bf1942 with all the max settings at 60+ fps, before i only got like 15-20 fps on max detials. so again why bother toneing down image quality when most of the buyers have loads of ram to get their ati card looking nicer, and haveing a higher fps.

 

[KiNG]

i doubt anyone would notice the image quality in normal use, but i myself was converted as well. i just bought the 9800 pro 128mb last night on newegg(hail meh!)
anywho im not a fan boy im just a gamer that likes the best price/performance and i chose ati, which not everyone does its just a personnal opinon. i dont have loyalty to either one really.

 

[xXSMGXx]

Nvidia wont go down, they are a big company not like 3dfx was, they have more stocks and shares. Another company like ATI simply cannot buy out Nvidia like Nvidia did 3dfx. Nvidia might fall behind though.

 

[DeathlessOne]

I agree, NVIDIA won't be behind long. Hell, they're already making new cards as we speak. I think I'll wait a while and see if the 5900 ultra is worth it.

 

[PSX]

if anything, nVidia is in as good a position as Microsoft, just take a look at their share and compare to ATi and you'll see

about "cheating" drivers, what's the big deal? (well, except for blatantly cheating and screwing w/ ATi customers)
you couldn't even tell the difference unless you used special tools to go "behind the scenes"; I would rather have the optimized drivers considering you'd still get a fair amount of extra performance and the iq remains the same; on the subject of marketing, I'd say ATi is slightly being more selfish with some of their current lineups; earlier tho, it was nVidia going this route with gf4 mx/fx 5200, etc., and now ATi seems to have caught on

buy what you think is best for the cheapest price; it's never fair to stay loyal to one company and one only; this way, everything stays balanced so that they don't share the fate of 3dfx

 

[dawdler]

Originally posted by Sgt.Igneri
Nah, this always happens. Last year ATI was like Nvidia now. Soon ATI will be way behind again.

Yeah, it moves in waves.

Have a look at this:

"...given the level of submicron silicon we are given access too, I dont think there's any excuse for a 3D processor not to support the full D3D feature specification." (they found an excuse I suppose )

"Proprietary API's dont move the industry together as a group" (on the answer why Nvidia dont have something like Glide. Now look a t Cg...)

"We want to get to the point where developers can look at the D3D spec and program to it" (they never got there)

"115 fps on a Voodoo2 isnt interesting to anybody. Tap into these tremendous fill rates and jack up the quality." (115 fps? TO SLOW! WE WANT 200 FPS AND HAXED QUALITY!!!)

- Mike Hara, Nvidia Director Of Marketing, 1998.

No wonder Nvidia became so succesfull. They had all the words people wanted to hear
ATI is doing the exact same thing now. While Nvidia is doing what Voodoo did. Its quite funny really, I'm starting to think time really IS a wheel, and a rather small one.