nvidia owned k thnx gg ati wins :D

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For some reason I've got the feeling I've seen this news before.
 
yes you are right im gonna throw away my gforce 3 because ati owns and im gonna play half life without a vid card because im short on cash.
 
gezus...this is like the 20th repost of news in the last 20 mins :\
 
i'm gonna play this shit on my ti4400 so blow it out your ass
 
own this fool.

Over the last 24 hours, there has been quite a bit of controversy over comments made by Gabe Newell of Valve at ATIs Shader Day.

During the entire development of Half Life 2, NVIDIA has had close technical contact with Valve regarding the game. However, Valve has not made us aware of the issues Gabe discussed.

We're confused as to why Valve chose to use Release. 45 (Rel. 45) - because up to two weeks prior to the Shader Day we had been working closely with Valve to ensure that Release 50 (Rel. 50) provides the best experience possible on NVIDIA hardware.

Regarding the Half Life2 performance numbers that were published on the web, we believe these performance numbers are invalid because they do not use our Rel. 50 drivers. Engineering efforts on our Rel. 45 drivers stopped months ago in anticipation of Rel. 50. NVIDIA's optimizations for Half Life 2 and other new games are included in our Rel.50 drivers - which reviewers currently have a beta version of today. Rel. 50 is the best driver we've ever built - it includes significant optimizations for the highly-programmable GeForce FX architecture and includes feature and performance benefits for over 100 million NVIDIA GPU customers.

Pending detailed information from Valve, we are only aware one bug with Rel. 50 and the version of Half Life 2 that we currently have - this is the fog issue that Gabe refered to in his presentation. It is not a cheat or an over optimization. Our current drop of Half Life 2 is more than 2 weeks old. NVIDIA's Rel. 50 driver will be public before the game is available. Since we know that obtaining the best pixel shader performance from the GeForce FX GPUs currently requires some specialized work, our developer technology team works very closely with game developers. Part of this is understanding that in many cases promoting PS 1.4 (DirectX 8) to PS 2.0 (DirectX 9) provides no image quality benefit. Sometimes this involves converting 32-bit floating point precision shader operations into 16-bit floating point precision shaders in order to obtain the performance benefit of this mode with no image quality degradation. Our goal is to provide our consumers the best experience possible, and that means games must both look and run great.

The optimal code path for ATI and NVIDIA GPUs is different - so trying to test them with the same code path will always disadvantage one or the other. The default settings for each game have been chosen by both the developers and NVIDIA in order to produce the best results for our consumers.

In addition to the developer efforts, our driver team has developed a next-generation automatic shader optimizer that vastly improves GeForce FX pixel shader performance across the board. The fruits of these efforts will be seen in our Rel.50 driver release. Many other improvements have also been included in Rel.50, and these were all created either in response to, or in anticipation of the first wave of shipping DirectX 9 titles, such as Half Life 2.

We are committed to working with Gabe to fully understand his concerns and with Valve to ensure that 100+ million NVIDIA consumers get the best possible experience with Half Life 2 on NVIDIA hardware.
 
Originally posted by SilentKilla
own this fool.

Over the last 24 hours, there has been quite a bit of controversy over comments made by Gabe Newell of Valve at ATIs Shader Day.

During the entire development of Half Life 2, NVIDIA has had close technical contact with Valve regarding the game. However, Valve has not made us aware of the issues Gabe discussed.

We're confused as to why Valve chose to use Release. 45 (Rel. 45) - because up to two weeks prior to the Shader Day we had been working closely with Valve to ensure that Release 50 (Rel. 50) provides the best experience possible on NVIDIA hardware.

Regarding the Half Life2 performance numbers that were published on the web, we believe these performance numbers are invalid because they do not use our Rel. 50 drivers. Engineering efforts on our Rel. 45 drivers stopped months ago in anticipation of Rel. 50. NVIDIA's optimizations for Half Life 2 and other new games are included in our Rel.50 drivers - which reviewers currently have a beta version of today. Rel. 50 is the best driver we've ever built - it includes significant optimizations for the highly-programmable GeForce FX architecture and includes feature and performance benefits for over 100 million NVIDIA GPU customers.

Pending detailed information from Valve, we are only aware one bug with Rel. 50 and the version of Half Life 2 that we currently have - this is the fog issue that Gabe refered to in his presentation. It is not a cheat or an over optimization. Our current drop of Half Life 2 is more than 2 weeks old. NVIDIA's Rel. 50 driver will be public before the game is available. Since we know that obtaining the best pixel shader performance from the GeForce FX GPUs currently requires some specialized work, our developer technology team works very closely with game developers. Part of this is understanding that in many cases promoting PS 1.4 (DirectX 8) to PS 2.0 (DirectX 9) provides no image quality benefit. Sometimes this involves converting 32-bit floating point precision shader operations into 16-bit floating point precision shaders in order to obtain the performance benefit of this mode with no image quality degradation. Our goal is to provide our consumers the best experience possible, and that means games must both look and run great.

The optimal code path for ATI and NVIDIA GPUs is different - so trying to test them with the same code path will always disadvantage one or the other. The default settings for each game have been chosen by both the developers and NVIDIA in order to produce the best results for our consumers.

In addition to the developer efforts, our driver team has developed a next-generation automatic shader optimizer that vastly improves GeForce FX pixel shader performance across the board. The fruits of these efforts will be seen in our Rel.50 driver release. Many other improvements have also been included in Rel.50, and these were all created either in response to, or in anticipation of the first wave of shipping DirectX 9 titles, such as Half Life 2.

We are committed to working with Gabe to fully understand his concerns and with Valve to ensure that 100+ million NVIDIA consumers get the best possible experience with Half Life 2 on NVIDIA hardware.
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who are you, some person that reads forums, ahh ok
go be a hero!
/me cheers sarcasticly for SilentKilla
 
Sigh, I get annoyed saying this over and over again, but let's wait when the REAL benchmarks come out 9/30 before we presume any winners shall we?
 
Valved, If you actually payed attention to current happenings you would see that the 5x.xx drivers perform quite well. I dont know if you got the memo...But "the g0t" is dead..You can stop typing like them.

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Originally posted by Javert
Sigh, I get annoyed saying this over and over again, but let's wait when the REAL benchmarks come out 9/30 before we presume any winners shall we?
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exactly, and ill be a hero Ray, u n00b. I think your lucky a mod wasnt on when u made this thread, you worse than the Headcrabs, this new has been posted 436,325,376,876,854,345,436,675,847,583,234,527,463,436,543 times.
 
Originally posted by Northwood83
Valved, If you actually payed attention to current happenings you would see that the 5x.xx drivers perform quite well. I dont know if you got the memo...But "the g0t" is dead..You can stop typing like them.

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i am talking about half life 2, not aqua duck, the g0t lives on they own you. 100% pure r4g3

:borg: :borg: :borg: sorry you made your choice in buying a gf fx card
it's ok, you can mourn with other nvidia users

/me hands over a kleenex tissue

:cheers: go ati :D


nvidia users = ;(
 
I cant tell you how happy Ill be when someone in power realises your probably going to use cheats on HL2 just like you did in HL1. Script Kiddie :cheers: The g0t died when OMP tried to sell their domain on ebay for 50 dollars and got no bids, lmao they are a joke and so are you.

EDIT: I dont even own a 5900U. I have a Geforce 3 which im upgrading for a 9800XT.
 
Originally posted by Northwood83
I cant tell you how happy Ill be when someone in power realises your probably going to use cheats on HL2 just like you did in HL1. Script Kiddie :cheers: The g0t died when OMP tried to sell their domain on ebay for 50 dollars and got no bids, lmao they are a joke and so are you.

EDIT: I dont even own a 5900U. I have a Geforce 3 which im upgrading for a 9800XT.
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sounds right
 
I don't think Valved Ray uses enough smilies in his posts.
 
Originally posted by DimitriPopov
Sweet merciful crap I want to shoot Valved Ray in the face.
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sounds right also, i want to see a Hijacked airplane hit his bedroom window.
 
Originally posted by SilentKilla
sounds right also, i want to see a Hijacked airplane hit his bedroom window.
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Too Soon..Too Soon...Dont be saying that kinda stuff..Especially on the 11th. I agree he is a moron though, Afterall he has ruined countless games for others. Seems like karma is kicking in on him, what with VAC banning him, Not being able to see his dog, etc.
 
Originally posted by Javert
Sigh, I get annoyed saying this over and over again, but let's wait when the REAL benchmarks come out 9/30 before we presume any winners shall we?
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I thought it came out 11/30...
 
Noone, I lurked. I was an Anti Cheater and I still am. Fak3r is a g0t member but I dont remember you, What avatar did you have?
 
V A L V E D - R A Y (ValVed-Ray

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g0t has been down for a while :(
 
Some shitty cheat site took it for a few days but then it died, lol. :cheese:
 
I was talking to desolate..:dozey: Hasn't your "scary" pentagram attacked you yet?
 
nope i don't know where it is.

look it's bed time

/me tucks in Northwood83 and strangles him in his sleep
 
WOW..... Gabe has an army of Ati'ers now u guys gotta remember graphics cards r grapics cards... wut matters is wut u do with it :) :sniper:
 
erm,
ive got a radeon 9000 pro. . . will i run dx9 Gabe? Will you do my laundry? which company is better (dont give me that at the moment crap).

lol
ok seriously, im curious, what bez g0t?
 
Originally posted by Orange
erm,
ive got a radeon 9000 pro. . . will i run dx9 Gabe? Will you do my laundry? which company is better (dont give me that at the moment crap).

lol
ok seriously, im curious, what bez g0t?
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If you have to ask, It was a cheating clan who thought they were 1337 but in reality they went nowhere and one of them even ended up killing himself.

BTW Arfenhouse!!!!11
 
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