Obama Cabinet Member Anita Dunn: Mao Tse Tung "Favorite Philosopher

[CptStern]

It's a failed economic system. The US is already in a decent recovery while many socialist states are still feeling crippled by the global recession.

such as? Libya? Bangladesh? Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka? Portugal? there's, surprisingly enough, not a heck of a lot of "socialist" countries in the world

unless you mean "socialist" as in anything that isnt right-wing american conservatism then yes I'm sure there's a few first world nations that arent doing as well as the US ...I cant think of any ..the only "socialist" nation that's comparable to the US is canada and the US is doing far worse than "socialist" canada. in fact our dollar should be on par with the US dollar any day now and our minister of finance reported a few months back that canada has pretty much come out of the recession unscathed

Glenn Beck being a douche has nothing to do with what this admin. official said

ok so what of it? does that make her a commie? does that mean Obama is also a commie? what the hell does this have to do with anything? this is pure sensationalism aimed at people like you: too stupid or too lazy to look past their own preconcieved partisan nonsense to see what he's actually doing here

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Well, actually it has everything to do with Glenn Beck, because without him this would pretty much be a non-issue and no one would be making a deal out of it because everyone else knew she was simply quoting Mao to make a simple point. It was Beck who took it out of context and connected any kind of reference to Mao by an advisor as a sign of Communism/Socialism/Fascism/UnAmericanism/Satanism/Baby-Eatingism/Linsday-Lohan-Disorder in the White House.

Also, I'd avoid Drudge. It's far more bias than you assume it to be.

Glenn Beck has nothing to do with this. The content of the video shows it all. The majority of people in the US are angered by having a Maoist pulling influence in the white house.

Just like the green jobs czar- luckily for Obama he resigned, could've spiralled into even more than it was.

This is either

A) A rookie administration who is shooting itself in the foot with these stupid slip ups- this should've been seen from a mile away

or

B) Actually an administration that wants to push a more socialist agenda and governing style onto the US


I pray it's just A, but all actions thus far point to B.

 

[Sheepo]

You see, I can't help but get the vibe that the only reason you're afraid of socialism is because you grew up hearing it used as a dirty word.

 

[Sulkdodds]

This is either
A) A rookie administration who is shooting itself in the foot with these stupid slip ups- this should've been seen from a mile away
or
B) Actually an administration that wants to push a more socialist agenda and governing style onto the US
I pray it's just A, but all actions thus far point to B.

It seems to me that all actions so far point to A, but you pray that it is B.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

You see, I can't help but get the vibe that the only reason you're afraid of socialism is because you grew up hearing it used as a dirty word.

Very funny because I feel the EXACT same way about most of the far leftists on here.

A VERY small percentage of America is as leftist as most of the people on this forum or even the Obama administration. His election was more of a rejection of Bush and the ruling party rather than an embracing of Obama's fiscal policies. I guarantee you if they held the Democratic primary again Hillary Clinton would probably win.

It seems to me that all actions so far point to A, but you pray that it is B.

Yeah I pray it's B because I want a socialist system in the US. WTF??? This guy is already POTUS and made his appointments to cabinet positions. If I hoped that he was a socialist I'd be cheering them all on and defending the lady in this video.

If I'm praying for anything it's that he has some secret libertarian agenda up his sleeve- but that's just a fantasy.

 

[Sheepo]

Very funny because I feel the EXACT same way about most of the far leftists on here.

I haven't the slightest idea what you mean by this.

A VERY small percentage of America is as leftist as most of the people on this forum or even the Obama administration.

Okay?

His election was more of a rejection of Bush and the ruling party rather than an embracing of Obama's fiscal policies. I guarantee you if they held the Democratic primary again Hillary Clinton would probably win.

Hillary lost the election because she was Bush?

Yeah I pray it's B because I want a socialist system in the US. WTF??? This guy is already POTUS and made his appointments to cabinet positions. If I hoped that he was a socialist I'd be cheering them all on and defending the lady in this video.

If I'm praying for anything it's that he has some secret libertarian agenda up his sleeve- but that's just a fantasy.

You see, he's saying that what they've done has not really given much evidence at all that would lead you to the conclusion that Obama wishes to introduce socialist heavy policy, you just seem to be a member of a group of people that seems to want to see Obama to fail or be the mistache twisting villian so many people suspect him to be, and go out of their way to see the things that lead to that conclusion.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I haven't the slightest idea what you mean by this.
Okay? Hillary lost the election because she was Bush?

No, you're not connecting the concepts. A Democrat win in '08 would've occured no matter who it was- the win was a rejection of Bush.

However, had people known what they know now about Obama they probably would've elected Hillary Clinton as the democratic candidate rather than Obama. I don't like Hillary one bit but that's the truth.

You see, he's saying that what they've done has not really given much evidence at all that would lead you to the conclusion that Obama wishes to introduce socialist heavy policy, you just seem to be a member of a group of people that seems to want to see Obama to fail or be the mistache twisting villian so many people suspect him to be, and go out of their way to see the things that lead to that conclusion.

Are you kidding me?

"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent as radical as people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical,”

Redistribution of wealth?! WTF!!!!!! Things like THIS are alarming people and fueling militia movements, and honestly with good reason.

He's a union lover in a time period where unions basically crippled and killed American auto makers. Unions have their place and do some good today, and had their champion times during the industrial revolution, but that time has mostly passed as unions become corrupt.

 

[Sheepo]

HOLY SHIT. HE SAID THE PHRASE 'REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH'.

And I highly doubt that Hillary would've won (and yes, I'm well aware that democrat would've won no matter what). Honestly what super duper scandalous things have occurred since election day that would've changed him beating Hillary by the margin he did?

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

HOLY SHIT. HE SAID THE PHRASE 'REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH'.

And I highly doubt that Hillary would've won (and yes, I'm well aware that democrat would've won no matter what). Honestly what super duper scandalous things have occurred since election day that would've changed him beating Hillary by the margin he did?

It's not a matter of a scandalous event, it's a matter of how leftist his policies are and that's become clear to many people. People got swept on the hopenchange bandwagon and fell in love with him as an icon or cult personality rather than examing his policies for themselves.

If you don't see a problem with the redistribution of wealth comment that it's an issue of social justice, or for that matter if you don't see a problem with the concept of redistribution of wealth at all, then you obviously aren't going to see a problem with socialist policies in the first place.

 

[Sheepo]

He didn't ****ing say anything. All he did was comment on what the Supreme Court has done in the past. That is literally all he said.

And yes, you're right about Obama's campaign. And no, you're wrong if you think there has been anything substantial enough to sway the majority of people who don't even vote based on issues.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

He didn't ****ing say anything. All he did was comment on what the Supreme Court has done in the past. That is literally all he said.

And yes, you're right about Obama's campaign. And no, you're wrong if you think there has been anything substantial enough to sway the majority of people who don't even vote based on issues.

He categorized the redistribution of wealth as an issue of social justice. Did you read the quote?


I challenge you to read the entire interview as well and you'll see that it's NOT an out of context text grab, but that its exactly what he was trying to say. He was saying that they should've gone farther in the civil rights movement by including redistribution of wealth.

 

[Shyam]

The Liberal ideology during the Bush era was hate everything he did and poke fun at him. Now the conservative ideology is pretty much blast Obama on everything.

Though I personally haven't liked some of his policies.

 

[Sheepo]

He categorized the redistribution of wealth as an issue of social justice. Did you read the quote?


I challenge you to read the entire interview as well and you'll see that it's NOT an out of context text grab, but that its exactly what he was trying to say. He was saying that they should've gone farther in the civil rights movement by including redistribution of wealth.

I can see how you're reading it that way, but I think you're really going out on a limb. He didn't say redistribution of wealth was a matter of social justice(actually he never says social justice at all) or political justice or economic justice. He basically just mentions it. I don't know how you can read this as any sort of certain evidence. And I would love to read the interview, do you have it?

 

[Sparta]

RakuraiTenjin, you are entirely wrong about that quote. This was something that came up during the campaign last year and was quickly squashed by people who knew specifically what they were talking about in the interview. It wasn't a case of him calling out for the civil rights movement to have gone further by including redistribution of wealth, he was actually speaking about the court could and could not do, strictly according to their role. This was a conversation about how the law actually works and what its role was, not what it should have done or should do according to him. Have a read of this

SCARBOROUGH: Well, I mean he talks about redistributing wealth and that the Warren Court was not radical enough --

MITCHELL: Not really.

SCARBOROUGH: -- because it didn't, there wasn't the redis -- what do you mean not really?

MITCHELL: If it -- well, it's not clear that that's what the words -- it's not clear that that is not taking it out of context, Joe. In fairness to everybody involved, I tried to read deeper into this yesterday, more deeply into this, and was persuaded by people a lot smarter than I about the law that he wasn't really speaking about income redistribution. He was speaking simply, descriptively about what the court did and what the court did not do, and what is appropriately the role of the court. There are some people arguing that he was taking a conservative position about the -- this was not the business of the court, that the court didn't do this.

SCARBOROUGH: Which people would that be?

MITCHELL: This was the business of community organizers.

SCARBOROUGH: David Axelrod and --

MITCHELL: No, no, no.

SCARBOROUGH: Who would think that when a guy talks about one of the -- that the Warren Court, the Warren Court did not go far enough, that actually one of the great tragedies was there was no redistribution of wealth.

MITCHELL: I will send you the full --

SCARBOROUGH: I mean, I did go to law school, and there is nothing conservative about what he said.

HARWOOD: But actually, Joe, he said that the court can't do that --

SCARBOROUGH: But actually, I'm not a good lawyer, exactly, good point.

HARWOOD: No, actually, he said -- he said the court's not equipped to do that.

SCARBOROUGH: Not now.

HARWOOD: Yeah.

MITCHELL: Exactly.

HARWOOD: It didn't sound like he was advocating that the court to do it. What he was saying the civil rights movement needed to recognize that if that's the kind of change they want, they weren't gonna get it from the court.

The only people who still trumpet this are from the far-right. The same kind of people who are calling Obama socialist and fascist and all that nonsense. To say Obama is Socialist (for this or any of his policies) is absolutely ludicrous when you take into account just how much the government was involved in your life today (as in, the last 24 hours of your life) and this all came about before Obama.

This is a brilliant breakdown of why this fear-mongering of government involvement (and hardcore Libertarianism) is outright stupid

this morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right

All of these came publically-funded government programs came about before Obama. The fact that morons trumpet out-of-context Mao quotes from advisors as proof of Obama's "socialism" is completely stupid when you choose to ignore everything the government already does/did before he got into office.

What American's call "socialist" is apparently center-right to the rest of the world.

 

[Shyam]

What American's call "socialist" is apparently center-right to the rest of the world.

True, while Obama is called a far leftist in America by conservatives, Right of centre in many countries.

 

[dallozdoppler]

I find

 

[MJ12]

Some philosophers are assholes.

Doesn't mean everything they've had to say is null.

 

[unozero]

I find it funny and somewhat troubling that some Americans find that a system that helps those in need, provides health care at reasonable prices for everyone and generally wants equality, so scary. This mentality of "everybody's out for themselves" and "this is my hard-earned money and I won't share a cent with you" has to disappear. Our system might not be perfect but I think it's (and I don't want to start a war here against Americans, it's just my opinion) better than yours. Of course it's not full-on socialist but it shares many of its ideologies.

Also, don't believe anything Fox News says about Canada's Health Care system, it's all false, same goes with anything else they "report".

Something like this can only come from someone who "Can't get any."

 

[Sheepo]

I find it funny and somewhat troubling that some Americans find that a system that helps those in need, provides health care at reasonable prices for everyone and generally wants equality, so scary. This mentality of "everybody's out for themselves" and "this is my hard-earned money and I won't share a cent with you" has to disappear. Our system might not be perfect but I think it's (and I don't want to start a war here against Americans, it's just my opinion) better than yours. Of course it's not full-on socialist but it shares many of its ideologies.

Also, don't believe anything Fox News says about Canada's Health Care system, it's all false, same goes with anything else they "report".

Something like this can only come from someone who "Can't get any."

Let's play "Who's more irritating!?"

 

[Shyam]

Something like this can only come from someone who "Can't get any."

Do you ever say anything that is remotely coherent ?

 

[Sparta]

Something like this can only come from someone who "Can't get any."

Yeah, all the support for any socialist programs for any government throughout all of history, comes from losers who can't get any. That's it. You've found the common denominator. Well done. World Peace can be achieved now.

 

[dallozdoppler]

I realize that I may not have expressed my ideas correctly.

 

[mastag]

Something like this can only come from someone who "Can't get any."

Really?