Official Doom 3 Benchmarks

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They will probably get the performance of the X800s up a bit.

I'm sure they have forgotten about us R300 users.
 
Why didn't someone do a Doom 3 benchmark using the Radeon 9xxx series and the Geforce FX series.
 
Doom 3 could be the new computer killer...coming close to Sassers reign of terror. :x
 
first off, this is just a breif look at the top of hte line cards right now. more benches are comeing later as they said in the article. i honestly doubt well see benches from a wide range of systems since all this was done in house at Id. its not like hard ocp had an unlimited time to test the game how ever they wanted.
 
ATi cards score lower than Nvidia cards not because id software had Nvidia cards in mind when they made the game but because Nvidia had Doom 3 in mind when they made thier card. ATi has fine OpenGL drivers, this preformance gap has nothing to do with opengl but with how the game is built each frame. The way Nvidia goes about building the shadows each frame is different and faster than how ATi builds the shadows in each frame. Nvidia took part of the GPU and used it to figure out how to cull shadows so as to speed up the drawing of shadows, this was called Ultra-Shadow.

Once more ATi cards openGL is fine but Nvidia had Doom3 in mind and built Ultra-Shadow into the GPUs so thier cards would get better frame rates. I do not think ATi will ever reach Nvida speeds with thier current generation of cards.

I have said it before and now with this benchmark basicly backing me up I will say it again: I expect Doom3 frame rates to be higher than what was seen in Thief3 or Far Cry and very possibly higher than what we will see in Half Life 2.
 
Did I just smell Nvidia bait when I saw those benchmarks? :E
I'm looking forward to more comprehensive ones that'll include the Pro's, XT's, and 5950's.
 
Javert said:
Did I just smell Nvidia bait when I saw those benchmarks? :E
I'm looking forward to more comprehensive ones that'll include the Pro's, XT's, and 5950's.
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http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQyLDQ=

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Oh and the only reason the ATi card is faster in the first benchmark is because ATi is faster at Antistropic filtering and the game was running at 1024 with no AA BUT with 8x Antistropic flitering ... and we all know ATi cheats at Antistropic filtering ... Carmack even said so right in the article

"it should be noted that some of the ATI cards did show a performance drop when colored mip levels were enabled, implying some fudging of the texture filtering. This has been a chronic issue for years, and almost all vendors have been guilty of it at one time or another."
 
I just hope that Doom 3 will be better optimized than Far Cry so that they don't have a lot of areas where the framerate suddenly drops by 10-20, or even better, HL2 system where graphics are lowered if frame rate drops too low (the ultimate insult from your computer).
 
lazicsavo said:
I just hope that Doom 3 will be better optimized than Far Cry so that they don't have a lot of areas where the framerate suddenly drops by 10-20, or even better, HL2 system where graphics are lowered if frame rate drops too low (the ultimate insult from your computer).
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as for graphics getting lowered I doubt that just for the fact that you normaly need to restart the rendering engine for things like that.

It was said a few weeks ago that 512mb was all Doom3 needed and 1gb showed now Frame Rate boost
 
Lethal8472 said:
Doom 3 could be the new computer killer...coming close to Sassers reign of terror. :x
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Sassers reign of terror? Who or what is Sasser?
 
lazicsavo said:
Excellent, I can procastinate on buying that extra 512 RAM :)
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I got a gig myself hoping it will help maps load faster and aid me in building maps but I dont expect to see a frame rate boost from it.
 
The one good thing is that developers still want their games to load fast. Far Cry took about 40sec-1min to load a level and almost instantaneous in game loads. I hope Doom 3 can pull the same trick. I know half life 2 will.

But nobody can beat Max Payne 1 and 2 in the loading area, it's lightning fast.
 
Hmm.. I wanna see how 2.5 ghz, 512mb ram...and a 9600 256mb holds up. I'm worried. I've been playing my games at 1024x768 for ages...and that's what I plan to stick with...I just hope I can run it without my comp crashing and forcing me to bring my clockspeed down to 1.9 ghz like Farcry did.
 
AmishSlayer said:
Hmm.. I wanna see how 2.5 ghz, 512mb ram...and a 9600 256mb holds up. I'm worried. I've been playing my games at 1024x768 for ages...and that's what I plan to stick with...I just hope I can run it without my comp crashing and forcing me to bring my clockspeed down to 1.9 ghz like Farcry did.
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Overclockers, read quote below

John Carmack said:
A note on overclocking: it is very likely that overclocked configurations that "play everything else perfectly" will start to show problems on D3 due to new usage patterns. Everyone is of course free to do whatever they want with their own hardware, but don't complain to us...
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Talking to John briefly about his overclocking comments made some things clear to us that many enthusiasts will need to be aware of. When he speaks of "new usage patterns" he is literally talking about transistors on some of new GPUs that are going to be used for the first time when you play DOOM 3 on your video card. So be aware that pushing your GPU MHz may get you different results in DOOM 3 than with other games.
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hmmm, well i overclocked my Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb (like AmishSlayer) for Far Cry and i haven't had any problems with it since i overclocked it
 
This is good new and competition for the graphic card market.
Nvidia needs a game, that people aren't over with, to exceed in.

I actually thought the ATI cards did really well. Most OpenGL based games have Nvidia ahead by a lot more than that. They also run at 100+ FPS though too.

This would be a good time for ATI to come through and rewrite their OpenGL code like they have hinted at before.

I wouldn't buy your card based on one benchmark alone. What game do you think you will be playing a year from now? Let the cards finish weighing in.
If you buy a card now it will play all the new games great but don't assume it's performance compared to the rest of the cards either.
 
now that these are out i wonder when we'll see HL2 benches to help oout ATI like ID is doing with nVidia *wink wink*
 
looks like the ATI cards are being shafted
:|
 
I`ll stick with my 9800 Pro. I`ll probably be too scared to notice the fps difference.
 
Yeah most likely ati will be better with hl2 but I hope it is not by a large amount. Got a pny 6800 gt last week :thumbs:
 
Sparta said:
hmmm, well i overclocked my Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb (like AmishSlayer) for Far Cry and i haven't had any problems with it since i overclocked it
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Err.. I didn't overclock my Radeon...but I should sometime...if I can figure out how (also wondering if I'd need another case fan...I only have 1 and I wonder if the fan on the card + the case fan is enough to handle the overclock).

I was just talking about my CPU. I have an AMD Barton, core speed something like 1.9 ghz overclocked to 2.5...but Farcry would freeze up unless I brought it down to 1.9. That's what I was talking about. I didn't word my post very well.

I look forward to seeing screens/benchmarks on lower and middle grade gfx cards. I've heard about this GeForce4 MX screen how it looks good..but I just wanna see how good and how well it runs.
 
I wonder how much 3Dc would help in a game like Doom 3 where practically every surface has a normal map.
 
decision decision decision. Which card to buy ? hmm

ATI : HL2
Nvidia:HL2, D3, SplinterCellX, Stalker, etc

I think Nvidia win :D
 
Argh, I was expecting the ATi cards to do better than that. Oh well.

BTW, congrats on the correct use of the word 'benchmark.' :)
 
I find the best benchmarking tool is to actually install the game, if you can't get the game to run in a manner you can play then re-assess what you need to make the game run better. If you must replace some part then try get a part that exceeds what you actually need to limit having to upgrade again.

Of course it has a slight disadvantage in that you can't always play the eagerly awaited for game straight away.
 
Gorgon said:
decision decision decision. Which card to buy ? hmm

ATI : HL2
Nvidia:HL2, D3, SplinterCellX, Stalker, etc

I think Nvidia win :D
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ATI: HL2, Splinter cell 3, Vampires
nVidia: D3, Stalker, Far cry

Splinter Cell 3 is very shader intensive like HL2. The FX 5xxx series doesn't stand a chance.

Actaully, every game can work on ATI, just it has that crappy "nvidia the way it's meant to be played" crap. :(
 
Im kind of pissed off that i spent £350 on an X800pro + delivery and it looks like i wont be able to play doom3 at 1280x1024 (my normal ress) with any AA/AF.

/Knew i should of just let my brain overcome my patience and bought a god damn 6800GT like i planned on doing.
 
Unless the 6800 gets totally spanked on HL2 or ATi speeds up their OpenGL it looks like I'm going with Nvidia.
 
What is everyone worrying about? ATi cards perform fantastic on any game that isn't an OpenGL game.
 
By the way, people - these are benchmarks, so they're made to stress the cards to their maximum capacity. Hell, it even says in the article that the actual gameplay won't be so demanding. Stop getting so worried.
 
Abom said:
By the way, people - these are benchmarks, so they're made to stress the cards to their maximum capacity. Hell, it even says in the article that the actual gameplay won't be so demanding. Stop getting so worried.
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quoted for emphasis, this isn't anyhting to worry about. If you have a top end card then it will play games incredibly well, there is no reason to worry about little differences that shall be unnoticable. Poeple are seeing a 5 fps difference and thinking their cards are being dicked.
 
lans said:
ATI: HL2, Splinter cell 3, Vampires
nVidia: D3, Stalker, Far cry

Splinter Cell 3 is very shader intensive like HL2. The FX 5xxx series doesn't stand a chance.

Actaully, every game can work on ATI, just it has that crappy "nvidia the way it's meant to be played" crap. :(
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Good, before I decide what to buy I am going to wait for Hl2 benchmark and see. If Ati has 10-15 FPS more than Nv then I am going for Ati. :rolleyes:
 
Me too.

I doubt ATI will have that much an edge in HL2, tho. At the moment i'm leaning towards the 6800 gt. Great card for the cash - and should start getting cheaper in a few months :)
 
I thought all the top end cards performed well, as they stated the X800 Pro was hurt by ATI's decision not to add the 4 extra pipelines to the card like the X800 XT has. They might want to rethink that concept as more games coming out this fall.
 
Rupertvdb said:
quoted for emphasis, this isn't anyhting to worry about. If you have a top end card then it will play games incredibly well, there is no reason to worry about little differences that shall be unnoticable. Poeple are seeing a 5 fps difference and thinking their cards are being dicked.
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That's so true. Besides the difference in cards from those benchmarks is what? 10fps? pfff!
 
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