Opposition Force and Blue Shift

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Can they be played in whatever order? I only recently recieved Blue Shift (stupid guy never sent it; got a refund and bought from another), and I personally think the guard's perspective would be more interesting than the Marine's. Or should I play them in a specific order?
 
They don't really continue the story. Just play Opposing Force first, it's much better.
 
I'd play Blue shift first, to be honest. Although all the early games are interchangeable, Blue Shift happens earliest in the timeline.

The order of start times goes Blue Shift, Half-Life, Decay, Opposing Force.
 
Actually... Half-Life is the earliest in the time line. Blue Shift doesn't start untill Gordon passes Barney on the tram ride.
 
i'm sorry but after the loading screen in blue shift you aren't suddenly being passed by gordon in a tram. blue shift starts first
 
Defpotec22 said:
i'm sorry but after the loading screen in blue shift you aren't suddenly being passed by gordon in a tram. blue shift starts first
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Lets just say then start around the same time... but Blue shift ends alot earlier. BTW What happened in Decay? Never played it.
 
Defpotec22 said:
i'm sorry but after the loading screen in blue shift you aren't suddenly being passed by gordon in a tram. blue shift starts first
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Uh... If I recall, you are.

[edit]: And if you want proof: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/gs/action/blueshift/blueshift_screen012.jpg

There it is, Gordon on the tram right when the game starts. Hence, Half-Life starts JUST before Blue Shift does. By mere seconds it doesn't matter, point is, Half-Life, then Blue Shift, etc.
 
ThrasherX9 said:
Uh... If I recall, you are.

[edit]: And if you want proof: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/gs/action/blueshift/blueshift_screen012.jpg

There it is, Gordon on the tram right when the game starts. Hence, Half-Life starts JUST before Blue Shift does. By mere seconds it doesn't matter, point is, Half-Life, then Blue Shift, etc.
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Uh, no, you're wrong. Blue-Shift starts considerably before that scene. Calhoun goes through a whole tram ride from the dormitories... you even pass Gordon before he even gets on the tram.
 
Also, Decay probably starts at or around when Half-Life starts... If you have access to all four games, I'd recommend playing Half-Life first, then decay, then Blue-Shift, then Opposing Force. They all interlap though so it really doesn't matter when you play them.

Blue-Shift starts before the original Half-Life tram ride and ends right before Residue Processing begins. Decay starts considerably before the experiment and ends shortly before "Power Struggle" in Blue Shift begins. Opposing Force technically starts sometime after the incident, but the player gets knocked out and doesn't wake up until probably towards the beginning or middle of Surface Tension, and ends considerably after Half-Life.
 
Opposition Force :LOL:

Anywho, I'd go for Blue Shift. Like UndeadScottsman said, Blueshift starts first, ends before Half-Life, and Opposing starts right after the accident, then transits already to surface, so one might say you begin the game from the surface, and ends after Half-Life. I, for once, played Blue Shift, then Half-Life, and then Op4. :D
 
I'd like to hear what happens in Decay..I couldn't play it *console FPS really..I can't do it. I die way to ez.*
But my favorite part HAS to be when Adrien sees gordon jump into the portal...to bad rockets go right through Gordon :(

I'd say play Half-Life --> Op4 --> Decay --> Blue Shift.

That's how I did it, and it felt so right
 
UndeadScottsman said:
Uh, no, you're wrong. Blue-Shift starts considerably before that scene. Calhoun goes through a whole tram ride from the dormitories... you even pass Gordon before he even gets on the tram.
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God damnit, you're right! I completely forgot that you start off in Blue Shift just getting on the Tram. It's been a while since I've played BS to say the least.
 
cyberpitz said:
I'd like to hear what happens in Decay..I couldn't play it *console FPS really..I can't do it. I die way to ez.*
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I was working on a transcript for Decay.. I got as far as transcribing all the dialog in the .pak file but without my copy (Which is currently lost a friends house :p Rat bastard keeps telling me he's going to go find it and bring it to me.), I can't organize it into a proper transcript. There's a few things that got cut out of it. (Like killing the two marines who dropped gordon into the trash compacter.)

Basic gist is, you play two of the scientists, Dr. Gina Cross (Who designed the HEV suits and is the hologram girl from the Hazard course) and Dr. Colette Green, that are involved in setting up the Anti-Mass Spectrometer (Overseen by a scientist in a wheelchair, Dr. Keller) before the crap hits the fan, Dr. Rosenburg (From Blue Shift) shows up to complain about how his equipment wasn't designed to be pushed that hard, but Dr. Keller shoots him down saying that the Administrator gave him authorization. Dr. Rosenburg decides to stay to keep an eye on things.

Of course, the crap hits the fan, and you have to escort Dr. Rosenburg to the surface to call for help. (Heh, some help that turns out to be.). Upon returning, Dr. Keller figures that the rift is widening and decides to shut it down with a Resonance Reversal; but it turns out that all the equipment to do that isn't up to the job. Eventually he decides on a system involving the sattalite Gordon launches (Which Gina and Collette had to give the all-clear in order for Gordon to launch it) and a series of crystal arrays. Banking on Lamda Labs (IE: Gordon) being able to take down the source of the invasion on the other side, Dr. Keller and his assosiates succeed in sealing the rift around Black Mesa. End game.

However, it appears that killing the Nihilanth didn't seal the rift on the other side, so portal storms are a go. Also, I think Gina appears in Op4 dead at the bottom of one of the xen mini-stages. It's been awhile though. But that's the basic gist of it. The important thing is the explanation of WTF the deliver rocket was for. The rest of it is just more (co-op :D) Half-Life, which I always like :D
 
So, the order in which the games start is: Decay, Blue Shift, Half-Life then Opposing Force. And the order they end in is Blue Shift, Decay, Half-Life then Opposing Force.
Right?
 
Bob_Marley said:
So, the order in which the games start is: Decay, Blue Shift, Half-Life then Opposing Force. And the order they end in is Blue Shift, Decay, Half-Life then Opposing Force.
Right?
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Decay is hard to pin down the beginning since up until the experiment starts there's no telling where Gordon is; however, I'd wager it would start after Gordon gets on the tram. Decay ends before Blue Shift though, that's for certain.
 
Based on Dialogue, it seems that the two Decay characters arrive directly on time, while Gordon is somewhat late.
The Blue Shift security screens also show that both ladies are at work well before Gordon even gets his suit.

Since Decay skips whatever tram ride they took to reach the lab though, Half-Life goes first start-wise.

cyberpitz said:
I'd like to hear what happens in Decay..I couldn't play it
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General plot outlines are hereabouts:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86523
 
Mecha. Msn teh now :p

(Yes, Blue shift is the best. AJ rimmer, as usual, is correct)
 
When was Blue Shift supposed to be put onto Steam..I was trying to find it so I could play it, but I'm not sure now..
 
TST_Devgru Seal said:
When was Blue Shift supposed to be put onto Steam..I was trying to find it so I could play it, but I'm not sure now..
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Way back when Steam just got out of Beta; Blue Shift and Gunman Chronicles were bothed mentioned as "We got to get these on Steam" by Valve, but I'm guessing the publishing snafu with VU prevented them from doing so. According to Gearbox, Valve has all the source code for Blue Shift and Gearbox's full support, it's up to Valve now.

Gunman Chronicles belonged to Rewolf Software and I believe they went poofies and if anyone owns the game now it'd probably be VU.
 
UndeadScottsman said:
Also, I think Gina appears in Op4 dead at the bottom of one of the xen mini-stages.
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Indeed she does, however it's inconclusive whether it is Gina that has died. Opposing Force was released 2/3 years before Decay when the Gina character hadn't been invented, and the Female HEV scientist was seemingly there for Deatmatch and Hazard Course purposes only. It's possible to see the Gina character in a similar light to Barney Calhoun in Blue Shift - how many dead Barneys did we come across before, or even when he got his own game?
 
Worth mentioning that the Decay Source project mentioned on wikipedia fell through... the Decay PC (original HL engine) version is still alive and kicking (new screens!) So Decay on PC is one day going to be a reality.
 
kupoartist said:
Worth mentioning that the Decay Source project mentioned on wikipedia fell through... the Decay PC (original HL engine) version is still alive and kicking (new screens!) So Decay on PC is one day going to be a reality.
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Cool beans; I hadn't heard anything about that in awhile.
 
Nahhh...Opposing Force is longer, cooler, more standout moments, more new content and adds a really cool squad-based dynamic.

EDIT: And a machinegun.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Nahhh...Opposing Force is longer, cooler, more standout moments, more new content and adds a really cool squad-based dynamic.

EDIT: And a machinegun.
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The soldiers pissed me off, Otis is fat.
 
Sheikah42 said:
i didn't want gina to die :-(

thanks for tellin me that jerk
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Actually, it turns out the reports were wrong. :p

The dead woman is a mystery character that uses the same model as gina, but reskinned. Real Gina is still at large.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Nahhh...Opposing Force is longer, cooler, more standout moments, more new content and adds a really cool squad-based dynamic.

EDIT: And a machinegun.
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But the end-of-game boss monster sucks.
 
So does Blue Shift's (by virtue of not existing). And Half-Life's to a certain extent.

The only thing I think Blue Shift did better than Opposing Force was the climatic final battle...charging up that teleporter was cool.
 
Sulkdodds said:
So does Blue Shift's (by virtue of not existing). And Half-Life's to a certain extent.

The only thing I think Blue Shift did better than Opposing Force was the climatic final battle...charging up that teleporter was cool.
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And some other chapters. Like power up, that was absolutley awesome.
 
Samon said:
And some other chapters. Like power up, that was absolutley awesome.
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And the key locations seemed slightly more polished imo, like that old pre-lambda teleport room felt real, ditto the lobby in the start. Btw, bosses in computer games generally suck, and I'm glad BS didn't have one.
 
Whichever game you prefer, they altogether chronicle the last days of the Black Mesa Research Facility (sniff ;( )
 
Blue shift would have been awesome-er if it had the SAW though, you gotta admit Samon. :p
 
Mechagodzilla said:
Blue shift would have been awesome-er if it had the SAW though, you gotta admit Samon. :p
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Alright, I admit, it certainly would be awesome-er :p
 
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