OUCH - REALLY bad day for Nvidia stock!

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Then again it was a REALLY bad day on the stock market as a whole but poor Nvidia got royally whacked even having trading of its stock being suspended for a while.

From Gamespot:

"The graphics chipmaker's shares take a beating after it announces its quarterly earnings are off 79 percent; after-hours trading send shares further south.

Nvidia shares tumbled sharply after the graphics chipmaker revealed its earnings were substantially less than what Wall Street analysts had expected. Nvidia announced sales of $456 million for its second fiscal quarter--almost $50 million below what most analysts had expected. Revenue for the quarter ending July 25 was a shocking 79 percent off the previous year's second-quarter numbers, $5.1 million vs. $24.2 million.

Nvidia shares have shed almost 40 percent of their value this year, with most of that decline occurring since June 26 when competitor ATI announced sales and earnings that exceeded analyst expectations.

"The second quarter was challenging and disappointing as the desktop GPU segment declined significantly as a result of several unusual market events," CEO Jen-Hsun Huang reportedly said in today's earnings call to analysts and investors. Huang attributed the decline in income to price competition and production delays.

While most of its divisions reported losses, revenues from the sale of GPUs used in Microsoft's Xbox game console climbed $16 million to more than $85 million.

After trading was momentarily halted midsession, the stock closed off $.41 to $14.56, a 2.7 percent decline on the day. The Wall Street Journal reported the stock endured further losses in after-hours trading, trading as low as $11.13 a share."

Although I am an ATI owner, I do hope that the Doom 3 inspired spurt in card sales does help them out. I hate to see a good company (and they are a good company) go through tough times.
 
The results of the FX series have finally come through the financial side of Nvidia. What did you expect?
 
blahblahblah said:
The results of the FX series have finally come through the financial side of Nvidia. What did you expect?
What did I expect?
Nothing!
Ahaha!
I don't care about nVidiots.


...;(
I feel like a jerk.
 
What exactly makes a good company?

Thank god I am not biased so I can buy the card that is the best value. :p
 
Tredoslop said:
What did I expect?
Nothing!
Ahaha!
I don't care about nVidiots.


...;(
I feel like a jerk.


You are. nVidia was one of the best cards out when I bought mine a year ago. Now everyone (at least poeple who want HL2) wants ATI because they are the prefered card of choice for HL2. Before calling people names think about the people behind the cards and the circumstances they were under whne they bought it... who knows, maybe next year you will be the "idiot" because nVidia will be the prefered card for DOOM4 or whatever.
 
People...
COMPETITION IS GOOD.
If NVidia dies, ATI = Monopoly = less development + uber high prices.

I don't care WHAT company you like, we need no less then TWO major graphics card manufacturers to keep prices lower and technology advancing
 
/me hugs his recently purchased x800 pro
 
This will only induce NVidia to make better deals for us so that we buy their products, and I like that. The only reason that I bought ATI was for Half Life 2 and when I buy my next one (which will be when HL3 has a solid release date (ha ha)), it will be the one that can run that better.
 
Some_God said:
You are. nVidia was one of the best cards out when I bought mine a year ago. Now everyone (at least poeple who want HL2) wants ATI because they are the prefered card of choice for HL2. Before calling people names think about the people behind the cards and the circumstances they were under whne they bought it... who knows, maybe next year you will be the "idiot" because nVidia will be the prefered card for DOOM4 or whatever.
I never said nVidia sucked.
I just called them nVidiots not because they suck or they're idiots, I called them that for the sake of being a mean jerk.

And Doom 4?
Pshh...I'd rather have Half-Life 3.
 
blahblahblah said:
The results of the FX series have finally come through the financial side of Nvidia. What did you expect?

Quoted for emphasis.
 
chu said:
* chu hugs his recently purchased x800 pro

You can hug it all you want, it's not going to make it faster than the 6800GT. ;)
 
I'll bet you see Nvidia's sales go up with this generation of cards. The 6800 series is absolutely amazing.
 
Vodoo here we come :p

Some people may get what I mean :p
 
yeah, the last generation Nvidia cards were below ATI standard, the next gen are more equal. Sales should pick up.
 
A2597 said:
People...
COMPETITION IS GOOD.
If NVidia dies, ATI = Monopoly = less development + uber high prices.

I don't care WHAT company you like, we need no less then TWO major graphics card manufacturers to keep prices lower and technology advancing
There already is a monopoly. Look at the old 9500's which could be softmodded to 9700 speeds, ATI and NVidia aren't competing THAT heavily, otherwise the x800's and 6800GTs would be a lot lower priced, there are huge profit margins in the industry.
 
ati only has about 1/3 of the market, so no monopoly there bucko
 
ShadowFox said:
You can hug it all you want, it's not going to make it faster than the 6800GT. ;)

But he doesn't have to have a nuclear generator to run his card ;)
 
Ouch, that must suck. But that should have been expected.
 
Everything is taking a beating right now.....


The market is diving like a Sub with a screen door.
 
w00t, this means those 6800's will most likely be much cheaper, and might just bundle with some games like rome total war, or stalker, man that'd be such a dream come true for me

and on the stock market chart; holy crap that's kinda scary really
 
Until the 6800s become more prevalent in the market, they won't drop in price.
 
hmm, this is very strange indeed. nVidia have their cards out and in good supply, ATi have yet to get their X800 XT's, and even X800 Pro's out in any decent number. A lot of people have already gone with nVidia because they can't be bothered waiting, so this share drop comes as a great suprise. I doubt nVidia will go under any time soon though.

I theorise that it's got something to do with business outside of the graphics card market.
 
mortiz said:
hmm, this is very strange indeed. nVidia have their cards out and in good supply, ATi have yet to get their X800 XT's, and even X800 Pro's out in any decent number. A lot of people have already gone with nVidia because they can't be bothered waiting, so this share drop comes as a great suprise. I doubt nVidia will go under any time soon though.

I theorise that it's got something to do with business outside of the graphics card market.
Not really. The top of the line cards represent at best 15 percent of the market right now. Unfortunately for NVidia, their cheap cards suck major ass. And OEMs are putting ATis in their systems now.

This isn't a surprise at all.
 
ShadowFox said:
Not really. The top of the line cards represent at best 15 percent of the market right now. Unfortunately for NVidia, their cheap cards suck major ass. And OEMs are putting ATis in their systems now.

This isn't a surprise at all.

nVidia's "cheap" cards such major ass?

What "cheap" cards are you talking about? The GeForce FX range?

Anyway, I certainly know of a lot of retailers (online and highstreet) that have plenty of GeForce's, hell, even PC World had GeForce 6800GT's in stock.

Also, even though it maybe true that nVidia's last range of cards were sub-par, that doesn't explain this sudden drop in share prices. The share prices would have dropped way before this, and with the GeForce 6800 range looking so promising this is indeed very strange.

This maybe grasping at straws, but doesn't it seem odd that this sharp share price drop has coincided with the release of DooM3?
 
We're a talented bunch at HL2.net :)

Actually my background is in finance .
 
mortiz said:
What "cheap" cards are you talking about? The GeForce FX range?

Also, even though it maybe true that nVidia's last range of cards were sub-par, that doesn't explain this sudden drop in share prices. The share prices would have dropped way before this, and with the GeForce 6800 range looking so promising this is indeed very strange.

Yes, the FX line was a disaster for the company.

And it makes perfect sense. The mainstream market is the big selling area. Their mainstream product (FX) is not comparable to ATi's. This reflects in their market share which took a hit. Investors don't like seeing the decreased market share and decreased income, thus they sell stock while they feel it is still valuable.

The 6800 line has little impact on their bottom line at the moment. In the next two quarters their financial situation should improve as they phase out the FX line.
 
mortiz said:
This maybe grasping at straws, but doesn't it seem odd that this sharp share price drop has coincided with the release of DooM3?
No, the stock price drop coincided with a poor earnings report.
 
ShadowFox said:
No, the stock price drop coincided with a poor earnings report.

Yes.

Even so, the FX range has been out over a year, we would have seen loss of financial earnings before this, last quarter for example. This drop is large for loss of earnings on 1 year old cards.
 
Well the market as a whole responds much slower than than the enthusiast market. :)

Not to mention their side projects have helped in the past such as the NForce2 mobos and XBox Geforce 3s.
 
Nvidia have been shoddy and complacent for some time, they are well overdue due for a financial slutting.
 
Well... if nVidia would stop making cards that you must rearrange your furniture and install an extra power generator in the cellar to be able to install and run then yeah, they made their bed! Im biased towards ATI, i have never had an nVidia card but i have been looking at them. They have some good cards. But they are too expencive, and they demand too much power and space in the computer. they take up one PCI port, and the AGP port, what is up with that?

And you have to have MAJOR cooling in them for them to run! They have developed in the wrong direction, where as ATI has basically the same performance while using basically the same tecnology as the old cards. Compare the size of these cards! ... the x800 card is actually smaller than the 9800 card.

But im only biased as far as the wallet and performance goes. If nVidia can prove their products is the best, and at the same time not be a power hungry hog and a huge noise producer then yeah, i would buy a nVidia card. But not yet. I hope they can stumble back on their feet and come back with the goods. Competition is good. If nVidia goes completely south ATI will probably raise their prices and stagnate, that is what happens when you have a monopoly, and that is not good for anyone.
 
Ruben said:
Well... if nVidia would stop making cards that you must rearrange your furniture and install an extra dielsel generator in the cellar to be able to install and run then yeah, they made their bed! Im biased towards ATI, i have never had an nVidia card but i have been looking at them. They have som egood cards. But they are too expencive, and they demand too much power and space in the computer. they take up one PCI port, and teh AGP port, what is up with that?

And you have to haev MAJOR cooling in them for them to run! They have developed in the wrong direction, where as ATI has basically the same performance while using basically the same tecnology as the old cards. Compare the size of these cards! ... teh x800 card is actually smaller than the 9800 card.

But im only biased as far as the wallet and performance goes. If nVidia can prove their products is teh best, and at the same tome not be a power hungry hog and a huge noice producer then yeah, i would buy a nVidia card. But not yet. I hope they can stumble back on their feet and come back with the goods. Competition is good. If nVidia goes completely south ATI will probably raise their prices and stagnate, that is what happens when you have monopoly, and that is not good for anyone.

Eh? The 6800GT uses the same power as the X800 Pro, is actually cheaper than that card and it's far superior!
 
Ok ... seems like a good card. I was thinking about that Ultra card, didnt think about that GT card. It actually seems to outperform the x800 card, good, and at the same pricetag aswell. Nice. It has the new nv40 chip right? On a downside, for nVidia they spent a lot of money developing that new chip where as ATI still uses "old" technology and the same production line they had with the older Radeon cards so they dont have to invest in a new production line.

From a business point of view this is cheaper for ATI. (read that somewhere).
 
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