PETA is quite retarded

Raziaar said:
In that blog is a stupid militant vegan.

He is, and you just did by supporting it, evangelizing it.
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While I don't agree with the blogger (he argues that all killing of animals is wrong) I think it's weird that people like him and Gray Fox are not allowed to be angry and passionate. This is not about a guy arguing against the Xbox 360 because he loves his Playstation 3, it's not about preference, it's about one side that sees a great injustice. Why aren't you allowed to be angry and why are you expected to argue with meat eaters as if you were trying to explain to someone why they should use Firefox instead of IE? Like the last paragraph in the blog says, some meat eaters try to turn it into "I understand and respect the opinion of vegetarians but don't tell me what to do" as if this is an argument about preference rather than injustice. Why are vegetarians expected to sit back calmly as a great evil (in their eyes) continues?

And again, as annoying the vegetarian on his high moral horse can be, the average meateater in the comments of that blog posts further reinforces my point that people who say stuff like "IM GONNA EAT SOME BACON NOW LOL" or the ever popular "FOR EVERY ANIMAL U DONT EAT, IM GONNA EAT 3!!" (maddox was cool in 2002) are... well.. meatheads.

Regardless, I think they're fighting the wrong battle. They're much better off with raising awareness and arguing for improvement rather than abolishment.

I'm not a vegetarian, and probably will never be. But I do want to change my diet, mainly with regard to where the meat comes from, which wouldn't happen without people like Gray Fox being annoying arseholes.
 
Is it better to have lived and suffered or never to have lived at all?
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2007/08/meat-eaters-are-bad-people.html
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The comments do the arguing for me. I buy meat from farms I know in an effort to support the ones that go the extra mile to make the animals lives as good as possible. Generally from the markets it'll cost me a few dollars more. Now to fully kick this guys argument in the teeth. You can raise more animals and hence produce a larger amount of food in a much smaller area than other farm type. If everyone went veg we'd suddenly have a land shortage and food prices would go through the roof. Great idea...not.

Anyway the real bitch is the arsehole you wrote that article. Superiority complex much? Mouthing off at meat eaters makes the cause to stop cruelty to animals look like a bunch of jerks. Wait they are I have first hand experience with them. Ha.

I support better welfare of animals.
I do not support arrogant cock bags on a mission to make us all feel bad about ourselves.
 
Gray Fox said:
Now imagine me taking peanut butter jars and just smashing them, or worse, taking a knife,
opening the jar and puncturing the contents and smearing the intestines of the butter jar all
over a toast. Would you care then? There is new research indicating that some farm animals
are as smart and emotionally sophisticated as peanut butter jars, would you not get angry if
those animals get killed?
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What the **** are you on about?
 
I'm confused too. You're upset because something with feelings died? If the killing is humane where is the problem? It's better than being ripped apart by a predator.
 
Would be funny if someone would unleash a pack of wild wolves into some PETA building.
 
Gray Fox said:
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Holy shit.
 
My parents are cooking steaks for dinner.

If you have a problem with my meat eating, oh well? The stuff's tasty and the easiest source of protein. And I have no reason to go out of my way searching for a better source of protein when it's so readily available. I'm not going to eat soy, that stuff is pure shit.
 
AJ Rimmer said:
What the **** are you on about?
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I dunno, he barely makes sense at the best of times.



If we all went veggie we would be obliged, no matter what, to absolutely ****ing kill millions of livestock, it would make the Holocaust look tame.



Its pretty simple to know a fanatical ideology when its apparent ideals of protecting life require more death then the "evil" non-believers.



Plus I don't listen to anyone telling me what I can and cannot eat unless they are my family doctor.

In short, if a Muslim came and told me I cant eat pork because its "unclean" and I laugh at him then I aint going to listen to some noob because "just because teh animulz are awesome!".



Overall I'm fine with vegetarianism, allot of people eat far too much meat and not enough variety in their diet, but cutting out meat entirely is purely a persons own choice and they have no right or grounds whatsoever to force food fascism on others, theres enough of that coercive ideals thing in politics and spirituality.
 
"Shooting and maiming pigs is outdated as Civil War rifles," said Kathy Guillermo, director of PETA's Laboratory Investigations Department.
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Yea, but they still do what they were intended to do, and kill people effectively, right?



As for the thread, I never even thought of this as a training exercise, it seems really effective in my opinion, and seems like it works really well. You don't want to shoot a human, so you shoot a farm animal and treat it wounds, pigs are similar to humans (except tougher skin I think), PETA are a bunch of whiny bitches, you can't replace the real thing with technology in this case.

(To me that sounded kind of sarcastic, but I'm serious)
 
PvtRyan said:
While I don't agree with the blogger (he argues that all killing of animals is wrong) I think it's weird that people like him and Gray Fox are not allowed to be angry and passionate. This is not about a guy arguing against the Xbox 360 because he loves his Playstation 3, it's not about preference, it's about one side that sees a great injustice. Why aren't you allowed to be angry and why are you expected to argue with meat eaters as if you were trying to explain to someone why they should use Firefox instead of IE? Like the last paragraph in the blog says, some meat eaters try to turn it into "I understand and respect the opinion of vegetarians but don't tell me what to do" as if this is an argument about preference rather than injustice. Why are vegetarians expected to sit back calmly as a great evil (in their eyes) continues?

And again, as annoying the vegetarian on his high moral horse can be, the average meateater in the comments of that blog posts further reinforces my point that people who say stuff like "IM GONNA EAT SOME BACON NOW LOL" or the ever popular "FOR EVERY ANIMAL U DONT EAT, IM GONNA EAT 3!!" (maddox was cool in 2002) are... well.. meatheads.

Regardless, I think they're fighting the wrong battle. They're much better off with raising awareness and arguing for improvement rather than abolishment.

I'm not a vegetarian, and probably will never be. But I do want to change my diet, mainly with regard to where the meat comes from, which wouldn't happen without people like Gray Fox being annoying arseholes.
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No see, I think anybody who is that obviously blinded by rage and sheer emotions and just lashes out with insults(I do this all the time under various circumstances with certain people in my life over the years. I'm not innocent) is an idiot. I don't care if it's that vegan with his angry rant, or some angry moron saying he's going to kill and eat 10+ animals just to spite the vegetarian.

I like it when I see people on reasonable grounds near the middle exchanging concerns and criticisms and sharing opposing views without them just mindlessly resorting to a yelling match that makes anybody involved look like an idiot.
 
I VIOLENTLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR OPINION RAZIAAR YOU ABSURD DANCING COW MONSTROSITY OF NATURE

I mean

YEAH.
 
"That's right -- you heard me, bitch.

If you eat meat you're a bad person."

...

"If my tone pissed you off then I succeeded in my goal. I’m deliberately trying to cajole you so you'll reconsider your eating habits."
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Oh yeah, that really works.

Deliberately trying to cajole me only makes me want to eat more steak just to spite you. And I will readily overlook the welfare of the animals for that petty (albeit satisfying) cause.
 
Then aren't you proving his point of being a bad person?

Again, like he rightly points out in the blog post, meat eaters see this as a debate about preference. Which it isn't.
 
They owe us their existence.

So we harvest their bodies.


Sounds good to me.
 
Moar inane comments please.

I doubt a piggy in a 2x1m space appreciates the precious gift of life that we gave him all that much.
 
PvtRyan said:
Then aren't you proving his point of being a bad person?

Again, like he rightly points out in the blog post, meat eaters see this as a debate about preference. Which it isn't.
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I probably am. In his own ****ed up head. But I don't mind if that kind of person thinks I'm evil. He may have won the battle by proving that point, but as long as I'm still eating cows and pigs, I've won the war.

In all seriousness, I'm all for more humane treatment of animals and the improvement of such standards in the meat industry. But I am always going to eat meat, something that the human race and thousands of other species in the world have done for centuries. I know it's not about preference. I just don't see the inherent moral travesty of killing and eating other animals.

But I guess the whole world of us murdering bastards can afford to live on veggies and protein supplements. Yeah, that's practical.
 
PvtRyan said:
Moar inane comments please.

I doubt a piggy in a 2x1m space appreciates the precious gift of life that we gave him all that much.
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Not just him, his entire species.

Domesticated chickens, cows etc. would get owned in the wild - moreso in some contries than others.
They'd have to evolve -really really fast- or go extinct.
 
Absinthe said:
I probably do. In his own ****ed up head. But I don't mind if that kind of person thinks I'm evil. He may have won the battle by proving that point, but as long as I'm still eating cows and pigs, I've won the war.

In all seriousness, I'm all for more humane treatment of animals and the improvement of such standards in the meat industry. But I am always going to eat meat, something that the human race and thousands of other species in the world have done for centuries. I know it's not about preference. I just don't see the inherent moral travesty of killing and eating other animals.
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Me neither, which is why I don't agree with the blog post. He considers all killing of animals immoral, which I've already devoted a longass post about why it isn't somewhere on these forums. But, that doesn't mean he's wrong on all accounts though.

Eejit said:
Not just him, his entire species.

Domesticated chickens, cows etc. would get owned in the wild - moreso in some contries than others.
They'd have to evolve -really really fast- or go extinct.
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Again: why would such an animal give a shit about that?
 
PvtRyan said:
Again: why would such an animal give a shit about that?
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He wouldn't. But if we have responsibilities regarding the continuation of their species we also have rights.
 
Looking at my friend's facebook profile today I noticed that she had joined a group called "Petition contre les tortures & maltraitances sur les animaux en Chine!" (petition to stop the tortue and mistreatment of animals in China), and someone had written this:

Dear Heavenly Father,

I whole heartedly request Your healing grace and unlimited unconditional love to flow in through and around all abused animals on this planet.
Wrap them in Your safety. Protect them from evil, harm, and pain.
Please guide all beings to love and respect all Your creatures. Remind them of their hearts. Please raise their vibrations into love.
Let all animals be completely free from their history of unnecessary pain and suffering.
As animals naturally invoke the law of forgiveness onto us, let us begin today a new and rewritten life and way of being for all.
With my deepest gratitude, I thank You for both the animals and our healed life.
In Jesus' Mighty name I pray, Amen. It is done.

With Love & Healing,
Amen
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I certainly lol'd.
 
You live in the world you live, and support the industry you support. With the full knowledge and access
to alternatives. You cannot in an way divorce the morality of your actions because how you wish things were.
 
Gray Fox said:
You live in the world you live, and support the industry you support. With the full knowledge and access
to alternatives. You cannot in an way divorce the morality of your actions because how you wish things were.
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We're all out there with picket signs and counter-protests in support of our beloved giant slaughterhouses.

We're not just buying what we see on food market shelves to give our families and ourselves sustenance.
 
I eat tasty meat and there is nothing wrong with that. Animals kill other animals to eat. Humans are animals therefor I will eat all the meat I want to.
 
Because God knows with high gas prices, my limited income, and my own pressing concerns and problems in my life, the first thing on my mind when I wake up in the morning is to drive out to the Morality Market or switching to an all vegetable diet overnight, just so I can feel better about what I eat. Let's not even get into all the other people in this country who have to work on minimum wage, or Heaven forbid people in third world countries who don't have access to such "ethical diets".

Any way, back to the pig shooting! That is what this topic is about, right?
I don't see a problem with it, since it is clearly serving a beneficial purpose that is useful to humans. Y'know, the species I value above all others.
 
Clearly you do, as the reason to change your diet pertain only to animal welfare.
 
I had some pork chops for supper tonight, maaaaaaaaaaaan...gorgeous...
 
Ooo, PETA thread! How did I miss this?

*falls asleep*
 
Anyone else finding Gray Foxs signiture massively ironic and hilarious?
 
My god, some people just have a tendency to make people who don't even disagree with them cringe.

not naming names
 
or do away with factory ffarms and cruel practices ..that's not too much to ask ..however it means that every one of you needs to stop eating fast food or demand they change their methods ..in the long run it comes down to doing what is right for humans because our food chain is directly tied to our health. everything from the problem of cross contamination from fecal/waste/offal/blood and food borne pathogens due to unsanitary conditions to the overuse of anti-biotics pose a danger to humans on an unprecedented scale.
 
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