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-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Gates [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Quick q's

Hi Gabe, it's been confirmed that CS2 has been in development, and it's been rumored that the CS team has been working with Valve on an "unknown" project for quite sometime now. Will the CS team be pumping out a mod using the Source engine? And will it be released with HL2?

Gabe: Yes, and no comment.
TF2 has been left to the spiders and flies for all we know, can you finally confirm that TF2 will be released in Source with HL2?

Gabe: TF2 is being done in source, and will be released as a stand-alone product. TF2 is not the included MP.

Thanks for your time...if you ever even answer my email....that is....
 
Thx for that info :) anyways I think HL2 will come with some sorta HL:DM type of deal like in HL1...
 
I'm a white boy when my neck is red, I put Miracle Whip on my wonder bread!
 
As I always said, CS2 is more likely to be included with HL2 than TF2.
 
To be honest i am still a sceptic.
I think that even if it does ship with HL2 then it wont be the only type of HL2s multiplayer. After all, not everyone likes CS.


we will soon see (i hope :p)


right g2g, sleep. bye
 
I don't understand though, you would think if cs2 was using source and was going to be released with hl2 as the multiplayer component that they would be advertising the hell out of it, because of all the people that play cs and they would love to boost there sales im sure.
 
its true that not everyone likes cs, i don't for example.
but i woudn't mind if it came with hl2, because i think it is one of the most (if not the most) popular online game ever.

so i think they would do a great job by giving it with hl2.

from the post i tend to beleive that the cs team is actually working on something thats going to be the included mp mode, i just don't know if its going to be cs2.

Personaly i would have liked a co-op mode to be included, but i heard that it will be a mod.

seewee
 
They'll have plenty of time to adverstise the hell out of whatever they include.
 
but then whats the point in leaving us in the dark now? When they could go ahean and spark peoples interest?

(people that aren't already drooling over the game that is)
 
Originally posted by Innervision961
but then whats the point in leaving us in the dark now? When they could go ahean and spark peoples interest?

(people that aren't already drooling over the game that is)
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yeah like if those people exists
 
Darn. So much for my dream of having TF2 ship with Half-Life 2. Of course, he did say that it won't be the included multiplayer so it doesn't rule out the possibility of releasing TF2 as a free add-on to Half-Life 2 and as a stand alone retail product much like they've done with Counter Strike and Day of Defeat.

His "no comment" leads me to believe that the included multiplayer component will come from the makers of Counter Strike but it most likely won't be Counter Strike 2. Whatever it is, it must be something pretty special, or I should say I hope it's pretty special.
 
It would be pretty stupid to include CS2 or TF2 with HL2 for free. Just expect a pretty cool multiplayer with multiple modes. But dont expect a game with as much put into it as CS2/TF2/DOD2
 
Originally posted by seewee
yeah like if those people exists
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Well what i meant, is looking at it from a strategic marketing stand point it doesn't make sense not to unveil a major selling point of your product, i mean, i am all for suprises, but financially it doesn't make sense. If there are some people who don't enjoy single player as much as multi player then you would want to assure them that they will have a great multiplayer aspect to fall back on, and to not release any info about this leaves those customers questioning whether or not they would want to make this purchase
 
Originally posted by 82ross
It would be pretty stupid to include CS2 or TF2 with HL2 for free. Just expect a pretty cool multiplayer with multiple modes. But dont expect a game with as much put into it as CS2/TF2/DOD2
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Yeah, I beggining to think that it's aint gona happen. But it's not going to be simple deathmatch either ...
 
People are assuming that just because Valve is making the game easy to be modded, that some mods will be pre-included with the game when it ships. At least this seems to be thinking, because as soon as Half-life 2 was announced, people were coming out of the woodwork saying OMG OMG OMG THAT MEANS THEIRE GOING 2 RELEASE CS2 AND TF2 WITH IT ASLO!!1 with absolutely no basis for saying that. Releasing Counter-strike 2 with the game would be a horribly bad idea for 2 reasons: 1) they could sell it as a stand alone product for much more money, and 2) why would they release Counter-strike 2 right after they release CZ? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

And nobody really cares about TF2 any more, except a small group of fan boys; but every game has its group of fan boys, so why would Valve care about them?
 
I PRAY its not CS2 or whatever... TF2 I coulda handled but I HATE CS :/
but seriously, I thought the cs team were taking a break from CS and were working on another idea... then again I could be wrong...
man I hate cs
so
bad
 
Originally posted by Mr. Redundant
I PRAY its not CS2 or whatever... TF2 I coulda handled but I HATE CS :/
but seriously, I thought the cs team were taking a break from CS and were working on another idea... then again I could be wrong...
man I hate cs
so
bad
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im with you on hating cs and alot of the retards that play it....but tfc is just as bad if not worse....


but i wouldnt mind seeing a newer remake version of either one with the scource engine.......

I think they both have potential to be extremly fun.
 
It would be pretty easy for them to just make a Source version of the current build of CS... Or TFC


Oh, and notice Gabe MANY times says "were not talking about multiplayer yet"... YET


The reason they aren't talking about it yet is they probably aren't sure if they can get what they want to include in the MP done and ready by whenever they are going to release... Combined with the all-of-a-sudden silence on the release date subject makes me suspect that they are currently trying to weigh the options of:

1. Makeing the Sept. 30th release date at the expense of MP content or,

2. Delaying the release to add and polish more MP content at the risk of mass scuicide and abortion-clinic style attacks to the VALVe offices...
 
I think stoops has hit the nail with the crowbar there.

I reckon they are still tryna figure out whether or not they can hit the deadline with the MP fully done. They wanna make sure its perfect before they release it. But they also badlly wanna hit the release date.
 
It's obvious that they think the MP is pretty sweet, because they've been crowing about it out of the corners of their mouths.

Personally, I wouldn't MIND a CS2 bundled with HL, as long as they have vanilla DM (though I doubt it'll be very vanilla given all the cool stuff in HL2!) and maybe even something else cool.
 
I don´t think they will include cs2 but something similiar like a Combine vs Rebells game thats pretty close to cs but different. There would be new weapons included in the MP thats not in the SP and so on.
 
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