Physics Professor Reports WTC Destroyed by Controlled Demolition

Pauly said:
I couldnt find it :| I forgot where i saw it, sorry.... But I do have


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Cnn took it down.



http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041111195501242
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LOL. An INTERNET poll? Ohhhh geeez. Thats like where conspiracy theorists flock the most, since the rest of civilization shuns them :-P

But seriously... why is the quality of that image so crappy? If I wanted to start confrontation, i'd say that was photoshopped... but I dont have to, because the poll doesnt reflect anything of substance.

The internet.... <walks away laughing>
 
Pauly said:
The point is that people died from their own government
in a recent poll over 50% of people who lost relatives in 9-11 believe the government had involvement in the case.
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I might believe if it the fact they weren't given a lump some of money to cover for their loses. What I mean is, I think what you're saying is bullshit.
 
The explosion of the planes blasted off the fire retardant/proof covering of the steel... and the flames were throughout the WHOLE building on those floors, instantly... they didnt have to take time to build, and spread. With the coverings on the steel beams, the structural strength was reduced by as much as 40 percent, which of course significantly reduces the ability for it to sustain the weight above it... which is a great many floors. Thats a HUGE amount of weight, my friend!

With the protection gone, the steel begins to weaken from the intense heat. It gives way, it distorts slightly, it shifts the entire support stability of the structure on those floors, which allows the great weight of the above floors to bear down on it, constantly, continuously. And like a soda can when you crumple it in your hands, collapses from the great amounts of force from above.



The simple fact of a fire is not a way for you to compare the stability of a steel structure to another. You have to factor in the extreme forces of a jetliner with tons and tons of airline fuel exploding like a gigantic bomb, which just devastates everything in the area, and then starts the fire. Conventional fires don't happen like that... the protection on the steel allows it to withstand a great deal.
 
Raziaar said:
The explosion of the planes blasted off the fire retardant/proof covering of the steel... and the flames were throughout the WHOLE building on those floors, instantly... they didnt have to take time to build, and spread. With the coverings on the steel beams, the structural strength was reduced by as much as 40 percent, which of course significantly reduces the ability for it to sustain the weight above it... which is a great many floors. Thats a HUGE amount of weight, my friend!

With the protection gone, the steel begins to weaken from the intense heat. It gives way, it distorts slightly, it shifts the entire support stability of the structure on those floors, which allows the great weight of the above floors to bear down on it, constantly, continuously. And like a soda can when you crumple it in your hands, collapses from the great amounts of force from above.



The simple fact of a fire is not a way for you to compare the stability of a steel structure to another. You have to factor in the extreme forces of a jetliner with tons and tons of airline fuel exploding like a gigantic bomb, which just devastates everything in the area, and then starts the fire. Conventional fires don't happen like that... the protection on the steel allows it to withstand a great deal.
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But why would the planes cause Uniform damage to the lobby and sub-basements of the WTC? There was a 50-ton hydraulic press in the basement that was blown apart... and the lobby was coated with a fine dust, elevator doors were blown off. Raging fireball down the Elevator shaft says FBI, but the lobby has been coated with a fine dust- which is signiture of high explosives. there is no soot or any fire residue in the lobby...


http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htm source

"“There was nothing there but rubble, “Mike said. “We’re talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press – gone!” The two began yelling for their co-workers, but there was no answer. They saw a perfect line of smoke streaming through the air. “You could stand here,” he said, “and two inches over you couldn’t breathe. We couldn’t see through the smoke so we started screaming.” But there was still no answer."


Look at the Lobby! http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/lobby.mpg Video from documentery. The marble panels are blown off of the lobby walls! Fine dust on the ground. No evidence of a fireball.
 
remember the intial claim to the temprature of the fuel is sketchy, there are chemcial reaction and temprature analysis write ups that show the fuel didnt even reach 300 C while burning, lack of oxygen indicated by the black smoke, also often indicates a fuel only burn, usual lending to low temprature burn's.

steel reaches half its strength at 600 C, even then its designed to withstand because of the multiple beams, its unlikely a majority of the columns where even affected, seriously raziarr unless you where standing in there inspecting the damage there's nothing that can be said outside of accurate knowledge of the actual tempratures envolved and structural weakness threshold's and saftey margin's.
 
Some of the arguments here are really ****ing weak. Personally i think the most likely thing is that both sides are partially right.
 
Pauly said:
But why would the planes cause Uniform damage to the lobby and sub-basements of the WTC? There was a 50-ton hydraulic press in the basement that was blown apart... and the lobby was coated with a fine dust, elevator doors were blown off. Raging fireball down the Elevator shaft says FBI, but the lobby has been coated with a fine dust- which is signiture of high explosives. there is no soot or any fire residue in the lobby...


http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htm source
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Because an entire building just collapsed?
Think of the weight and the height, that is a lot of energy....
The pressure caused by the falling material would cause a very simmilar effect to high explosives.

clarky003 said:
remember the intial claim to the temprature of the fuel is sketchy, there are chemcial reaction and temprature analysis write ups that show the fuel didnt even reach 300 C while burning, lack of oxygen indicated by the black smoke, also often indicates a fuel only burn, usual lending to low temprature burn's.
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Black smoke will be given off from areas where there is little oxygen, there would also be areas of lean burn, if you see black smoke it dosn't mean it's all choked does it now?
The vertical layout of the building would make the fuel burn like a blast furnace, air being heated rising up through building drawing fresh air in, you can see this in videos of the incident.
It would almost certainly be burning at very high temperature.
 
short recoil said:
Because an entire building just collapsed?
Think of the weight and the height, that is a lot of energy....
The pressure caused by the falling material would cause a very simmilar effect to high explosives.
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But, NO! This was when the plane hit! the building did not collapse yet.. The plane hit the 90th floor about? and the basement 50-ton press exploded.
 
there would also be areas of lean burn, if you see black smoke it dosn't mean it's all choked does it now?
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By lean burn i assume you mean the office contents and whats left of the jetfuel with assumtion of access to a plentiful oxygen supply, dont the fires starve themself in confined spaces? the faster they burn the quicker they smoke up the less Oxygen gets in and around the core. But again the opposite argument is just as assuming as the one in question, except the assumptions are written in an official document that doesnt even thoroughly cover the whole variety of incidential occurance's, eyewitness reports, video's .. etc.

the burn temprature's are exagerated and unreliable, the details on the temprature safe threshold for the steel isnt clarified in detail in the comission report. You assume the same as them a lean burn that magically reaches 800 to 1500 C, when jetfuel doesnt even burn at 1/4 that temprature.
 
I love how all the random internet people in this thread have suddenly become freaking demolitions experts based on visiting a random conspiracy website.

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Logical fallacy:
Proving a negative.

It's impossible to provide definitive proof that something so loosely defined does not exist.
It is therefore up to you dudikoffs to prove that it does exist, provide the most likely scenario with the ultimate evidence, or shut up plz.
 
Mechagodzilla said:
I love how all the random internet people in this thread have suddenly become freaking demolitions experts based on visiting a random conspiracy website.
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Logical fallacy:
Proving a negative.
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Thats a fallacy. Why dont people forget about where somethings posted for 5 minutes and try actually addressing what has been said.
 
It's impossible to provide definitive proof that something so loosely defined does not exist.
It is therefore up to you dudikoffs to prove that it does exist, provide the most likely scenario with the ultimate evidence, or shut up plz
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do the same for the 9/11 comission report plz, clear evidence plz, not assumption's plz, clear connection's to afghanistan plz, proper evidence for bin laden, Saddam ties plz.

its as flacid as anything, the only reason you believe it so firmly is because a few people with the cash and influence can suggest that intial idea and push that onto large broadcast network's for the gobbling.



ie, omission report
 
I don't use the word retarded very often, but retarded is what this is.

I do agree though, that people must address what has been said.

Therefore, I will continually post my proof links until someone proves DEFINITIVELY that this photograph isn't an alien carefully disguised as a whacky-flailing-inflatable arm-waving-tube-man:

http://skydancersworldwide.com/galleries/large/Alien.jpg
http://skydancersworldwide.com/galleries/large/Alien.jpg
http://skydancersworldwide.com/galleries/large/Alien.jpg
 
It's "wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube man."

Perhaps you need to go down to Al Harrington's Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man Warehouse and Emporium to be re-educated...
 
Pauly said:
If anyone can prove that explosives were NOT used... there is a One million dollar contest... http://reopen911.org/Contest.htm Good luck!
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You do realize in none of those pictures it even remotely resmebles an explosion, that they talk about? I've seen those videos when the tower collapse... there's no explosion shooting things all the way out. Come on, be realistic.
 
Hmm. I've noticed something perculiar at lunchtime. They are sending the wrong food periodically... Sending rice pudding instead of Semolina once could be a mistake. But twice in one week? Let's look at the best before date on this rice pudding tin, it's 11-6-2006...turn it upside down, what do we have? 9-11!
The name on the tin? Ambrosia! O-M-F-G. Dateline London, 1982. Freemasons from the Vatican hang Roberto Calvi from Blackfriars Bridge - Calvi is the President of the Ambrosiana Bank! Coincidence? I think not!

If I draw a line on a map, between Blackfriars Bridge and the Grocer's shop in Luton, and extrapolate these two coordinates, it points straight to...guess where? CARLISLE!

You see? The Carlyle Corporation! The Texas based munitions company, funded by the bin Laden family, which along with Dick Cheney's Halliburton group, bankrolled George W. Bush's presidential election campaign!
Looking more closely at the Carlyle Corporation, the Halliburton Group, NASA and the Catholic church, things start to get much more interesting...

All of these organisation trade on, or own shares in the US Stock Exchange, based in NEW YORK CITY... bringing us back to 9-11!

I may make the following deductions from all the evidence:

1. The New World order is going to assassinate Kofi Annan to destabilise the Middle East. They want to allow the priory of Zion to fluoridise the Caspian Sea! They're being blackmailed by the Freemasons, who have evidence that the Bilderberg group were using George W. Bush's "Global Hawk" technology to fly the 4 planes on the day of 9-11.

2. Frank Bruno subsequently appeared barefoot on the sleeve of "Abbey Road", and was replaced by Jim Morrison, who faked his own death in Paris, like Princess Di (who is a shape-shifting reptilian), whose cattle-mutilating black helicopter was spotted using a Telsa Howitzer, to bring down the space shuttle Columbia over the state of Texas - which just happens to be the home state of Lee Harvey Oswald, George W. Bush and Monsanto - the Vatican backed plant gene manipulation conglomerate who have secretly embarked on a project - where else but the Caspian Sea!, to genetically modify....RICE!!!

3. You know how Semolina puddings usually come in Packs of Two?
Well, Tupac Shakur faked his own murder, just like JFK, Marilyn Monroe and the Lindbergh baby, and infiltrated the Grocer's shop in Luton to warn me that the CIA had me in the frame to be the fallguy in the Annan assassination.

Well, guess what? When Annan stops that bullet tomorrow, I'm going to be safely behind bars, somewhere where the military-industrial complex can't put their finger on me! They've picked the wrong patsy this time!
I'm going to name names and blow this whole sinister global conspiracy wide open. They're going to regret messing with m.....

*Kirovman gets shot on the grassy knoll.*
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This post closed the last thread on this nonsense; hopefully it will do the same here.
 
Nonsensical, or much too sensical for you to comprehend?!

Don't resort to insults just because you can't disprove my Professor-supported hypothesis!!

Disprove me first, and then I'll shut up, but you know full well I am right because I read information on a website. :O :O
 
OMG, I now believe in aliens, even though i've forever felt there weren't any! <gasp>
 
wow, way to take it off the rails, on purpose just to get it closed i assume... theres no sensible convo full stop, because its quite clear people are so emotionally attached to the comission's version of event's that they feel threatened by any suggestions otherwise.. simple, just too immature to even respond to the WTC 7 demolition video ever since i posted it 5 pages back.
 
clarky003 said:
wow, way to take it off the rails, on purpose just to get it closed i assume... theres no sensible convo full stop, because its quite clear people are so emotionally attached to the comission's version of event's that they feel threatened by any suggestions otherwise.. simple, just too immature to even respond to the WTC 7 demolition video.
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DUde... we've already thoroughly destabalized these 'theories'.
 
I know, what the hell is wrong with people??

Obviously they are not mature enough to believe my websites and also various claims related to websites!

PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO THIER APPLIANCES TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH ABOUT THE INCLEMENT WEATHER CONSPIRACY OF ALIENS.

THIS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY I COULD POSSIBLY BE CONSTRUED AS GULLIBLE/INSANE.
 
http://www.reopen911.org/video/911CommissionReport.wmv

Theres some videos from C-Span questioning the Commision report thats full of Ommisions. This thread is obviously hijacked(with help from mods) and we can no longer discuss the matter with maturity and intelligence.


http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Loose Change - A Documentary on 911 Part 1.wmv Part 1 of a 60 minute Documentory.

Part 2 http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Loose Change - A Documentary on 911 Part 2.wmv


Good night everyone.
 
Pauly said:
http://www.reopen911.org/video/911CommissionReport.wmv

Theres some videos from C-Span questioning the Commision report thats full of Ommisions. This thread is obviously hijacked(with help from mods) and we can no longer discuss the matter with maturity and intelligence and open-mindness.
Good night everyone.
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Goodnight, don't let the governmentally inserted bedbugs bite!
 
know, what the hell is wrong with people??

Obviously they are not mature enough to believe my websites and also various claims related to websites!

PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO THIER APPLIANCES TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH ABOUT THE INCLEMENT WEATHER CONSPIRACY OF ALIENS.

THIS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY I COULD POSSIBLY BE CONSTRUED AS GULLIBLE/INSANE.
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hehe

seriously wtf, who derailed the convo in the first place with stupid alien blow up dolls. lol, quit being an ass.
 
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Part 2 of series.
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Theres some images of alien proofs. This thread is obviously hijacked(with help from mods) and we can no longer discuss the matter with maturity and intelligence.

I guess this is proof that I am a super-genius because i can see things that other normal people cannot!!

Hello everybody again this is Mechagodzilla!

EDIT: MY VIEWS ARE NOT STUPID THIS INFORMATION IS VITAL and not disproven by anyone. Therefore it is worthy of being believed by you or else you are a dumby.
 
clarky003 said:
wow, way to take it off the rails, on purpose just to get it closed i assume... theres no sensible convo full stop, because its quite clear people are so emotionally attached to the comission's version of event's that they feel threatened by any suggestions otherwise.. simple, just too immature to even respond to the WTC 7 demolition video evidence.
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Ok insults aside and my own personal revulsion at what is being put forward; have you really through this out?
Can you for one minute imagine, in reality, this happening?
Let me put it to you ...you are really suggesting that American security forces, not only turned a blind eye to the attacks, but actually participated in them?
You are suggesting that American security services planted bombs, knowing they would kill American citizens.
Can you for one second imagine that happening, can you imagine how you would feel had you been involved in something like that?
It is so easy to jump on the Global conspiracy and condemn America as Satan reincarnated but to even comprehend that this happened is literally unbelievable.

Oh and just for good measures everybody that was involved in this, is so blindly loyal to their Government that not one has ever come forward to tell us all .

Wake up mate
 
Im not saying any of that happened youve all jumped on my back and assumed it, I posted the article because there was recorded event material that wasnt included in the 'final' 9/11 comission report. :/

but its all the same responses, "you cant possibly think anything other than the official report is right, your so dumb, aha, look heres a silly inflateable alien. i cant believe you think the government is involved in somehow manipulating the public on this" etc etc etc, with the outstanding address of material that is in the record's surrounding the events, but wasnt included in the comission report.

still no responses to the WTC 7 building collapse.
 
the government did not blow up the world trade center.

anybody who thinks otherwise should be executed.. seriously. It's oh-so-simple. Plane crashes into building, building falls down. IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.
 
The thought that the government orchestrated 9/11 is about as bogus as the thought that the british government orchestrated what went on over there... Pile of rubbish.
 
well someone close the thread please, its just turned into state my belief of why this is an impossibility , rather than objective analysis of the events around WTC 7 building.
 
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