Political Correctness

[CptStern]

A term was later adopted for the Japanese invaders in world war 2, dongyangguizi, meaning eastern foreign devil/ghost.

Can't really blame them for it I guess.

I thought that was "gaijin"?

 

[Bodacious]

meh, karma backlash is bound to catch up to you sooner or later


oh and just because you've swallowed the "middle east reform" doesnt mean it's actually true ...if anything the world is much more dangerous place since the invasion ...no thanks to you

If the world isn't safer that is their fault of not realizing the terrorist threat. America is safer and I am safer.

please provide proof of his bigotry ..and dont bother bringing up his stance on israel ..Noam is jewish

http://arutzsheva.com/article.php3?id=4867


Let me guess, that is going to be another biased article or just an opinion column huh?

Well, as I have said before, the column can be researched and it provides internet links, so read up.

 

[kirovman]

I thought that was "gaijin"?

Don't know about that...

I only know yangguizi because I was taunted while in China :dork:

The only match I found for gaijin means 'improvement'.

Not sure about cantonese though, but pretty sure gweilo is right-ish. Just add the word for east (dong 东 ) onto it for Japanese.

Did you know in Chinese, Tokyo is pronouced Dongjing(东京 ) - Eastern Capital. Same characters used.

 

[CptStern]

If the world isn't safer that is their fault of not realizing the terrorist threat. America is safer and I am safer.

the US is a n00b when it comes to terrorism ...most of the civilized world has been dealing with terrorism for a long time

http://arutzsheva.com/article.php3?id=4867


Let me guess, that is going to be another biased article or just an opinion column huh?

Well, as I have said before, the column can be researched and it provides internet links, so read up.

:upstare: the guy is a nutjob and very misinformed ..the anti-semetic remark is laughable ...Noam is JEWISH!!! ...so is the charge that he's a holocaust denier ....bet you dont know the circumstances around that one ..well it seems some radical used a quote from Chomsky about freedom of speech and put it in his book without permission ...there goes that theory


look at the same tired rhetoic of hate this "nutjob" keeps pushing:

"Chomsky, of course, has never met an Islamofascist terrorist he did not like"

"Noam Chomsky is not only more anti-American than Ward Churchill, arguing that America is a far more evil country than Nazi Germany, but he is a vicious anti-Semite, as well."

NOAM IS JEWISH



"But the neo-Nazis and anti-Semites continue to beat the USS Liberty drum, never, of course, displaying any interest in any of those thousands of American lives lost due attacks by Islamofascists. Such people are only interested in protesting the loss of American lives when this serves to demonize Israel and "dem Joos".


or even the rediculous:

"On a personal note, I have long argued that people become leftists as a sort of gesture of infantile rage against their parents. In the case of Chomsky, the father of Noam was a fine Bible teacher, one from whom I took classes back in the 1960s. Noam seems to have devoted his life to showing contempt for everything his father held sacred and everything in which his father believed.

The Bible? You know, that same Bible that contains those Ten Commandments that the American Left is this week demanding before the Supreme Court be prohibited from public display.

After all, the Left would not want people running around in public not stealing, murdering or committing adultery. But the real clause that enrages the leftists is that part about showing respect for your father and mother."


"Chomsky is redistributing a screed on the usual moonbat web sites - those that otherwise spend their days celebrating Ward Churchill's ideas - in which he sings the song of celebrating Ba'athism."


"Noam Chomksy, the MIT inventor of now-discredited theories of linguistics"


I'm sure MIT stripped him of his Fellowship

 

[GhostFox]

Where does the term "Yankie Doodle" come from

Yankee Doodle Dandy was a British marching tune mocking the rebel American colonists. The British played it while marching into battle.

However, the song ending up being enshrined as a song of American pride because after the battle of Yorktown, during Cornwallis' surrender, the American marching bands struck up a jaunty "Yankee Doodle Dandy" and continued playing it the entire time while thousands of British soldiers stacked their muskets one by one.

 

[GhostFox]

British Sailors put Lime juice into the water barrels to stop scurvy, the American's thought this was odd so started calling us Limeys.

Actually it was common for all ships of the period to carry citrus fruit to ward off scurvy. "Limey" was a generic term for sailor used all over the world at the time. However somehow it stuck with the British, even after scurvy was no longer a concern.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Thats because the British are known for their naval exploits.

 

[Laivasse]

Don't know about that...

I only know yangguizi because I was taunted while in China :dork:

The only match I found for gaijin means 'improvement'.

Not sure about cantonese though, but pretty sure gweilo is right-ish. Just add the word for east (dong 东 ) onto it for Japanese.

Did you know in Chinese, Tokyo is pronouced Dongjing(东京 ) - Eastern Capital. Same characters used.

Gaijin - 外人 - literally means "outside person" or just "outsider" if you conflate it. It's a pretty offensive term, or at least the Japanese intended it to be so, but it gets used so much over there that it's common for westerners in Japan to refer to themselves ironically as "gaijin". At least, I did

The characters for Tokyo are also slightly different in Japanese compared to chinese - 東京.

As for the Aryans - weren't they originally from Persia/Iran?

 

[kirovman]

Gaijin - 外人 - literally means "outside person" or just "outsider" if you conflate it. It's a pretty offensive term, or at least the Japanese intended it to be so, but it gets used so much over there that it's common for westerners in Japan to refer to themselves ironically as "gaijin". At least, I did

The characters for Tokyo are also slightly different in Japanese compared to chinese - 東京.

As for the Aryans - weren't they originally from Persia/Iran?

Is that cantonese? 外人 is wai ren in mandarin. Same meaning though.

And yeah, the Tokyo characters are the same as traditional chinese characters- mine before were simplified.

As for Ayrans...it's not really that specific. The Ayran race was a warped design by Hitler- he just used a random name for his ideal race I guess:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

 

[DEATH eVADER]

Black, white, yellow and brown are descriptive colours for people. So when you can't you those descriptive words, your vocabulary tends to spread thin. However, if you get your dictionary out, you might be able to find descriptive words that have not been banned.

I'm surprised the extra terestrials haven't come down to ban the colour 'grey'

 

[Eg.]

yes but no one refers to themselves anymore by that word ..negro was used extensively before the black-pride movement of the 60's when they started referring to themselves as black

at my school they do

 

[CptStern]

at my school they do

well ..that changes everything!

 

[el Chi]

Political correctness realy gets my goat, sorry, I mean male sheep.
You cannot call black people black or negro
You cannot call Japanese Japs even though it is short for Japanese
You cannot call gay people gay
You must call you girlfirend / boyfriend / husband / wife your partner

You CAN call black people black. Negro, or ****** or whatever is racist, because of the connotations with the slave trade. You know, when black people were sub-human?
I can see how that's PC-madness.
Japs, again, is a bit derogatory.

You CAN call gay people gay. They're gay. Other terms can be construed as politically incorrect because they have abusive contexts.

Of course you can call your girlfriend or boyfriend exactly that. Who says you can't?

I agree that some people can take things too far. However, a degree of political correctness is a Good Thing, as far as I'm concerned. It gets my male sheep when people use ignorant comments like calling anyone from Asia a "Paki" for example.

 

[Calanen]

I don't know where the word Caucasian comes from, but everytime I hear it, in my mind I think of terribly inaccuracies.
.

My dad's family is descended from the Caucasus in Russia. Blue eyes, brown/blonde hair the lot of them. So makes sense to me that is where you would get the name Caucasian from.

Interestingly, Circassian Arabs are also lightskinned. As indeed are some of the Kashmiri people.

 

[CptStern]

Caucasians are not necessarily light-skinned

Caucasian:

1. Anthropology. Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. No longer in scientific use.

2. Of or relating to the Caucasus region or its peoples, languages, or cultures.

3. Of or relating to a group of three language families spoken in the region of the Caucasus mountains, including Chechen, Abkhaz, and the Kartvelian languages.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Like I said. Lets all just look on wikipedia for the answers...

 

[kirovman]

Like I said. Lets all just look on wikipedia for the answers...

It's great isn't it?

They have a non-biased source policy too.

It even helps when you're doing degree level stuff.

 

[john121]

who comes up with all this political correctness anyhow? look at chris rock and dave chappelle, they say "niger" all the time, and they're not labeled racist. In America, lots of blacks call others "nigers" (i'm intentionally mispelling it, if you haven't noticed) If you're wondering if I think it's a racist term, yes, i do. Yet, if it's widely accepted as racist, why can blacks go around saying it to other blacks, when a white says it in exactly the same context, it's suddenly racist?

There was a tv show about this very subject that was set in a high school where a young teacher asked the very same question. A black teacher bashed him for even asking it, and said he should be fired for it. Now... would that be considered racism in itself? Firing someone for asking a small question about why?

 

[KoreBolteR]

caucasus.. i remember that word from a battle in word war 2, when the nazis were attacking the soviet union, its south russia, right?

yeah why are white people refurred as caucasion. id rather be called "white".

 

[bliink]

Firing someone for asking a small question about why?

Forget racism, thats an illegal dismissal (in most countries anyway)

 

[kirovman]

caucasus.. i remember that word from a battle in word war 2, when the nazis were attacking the soviet union, its south russia, right?

yeah why are white people refurred as caucasion. id rather be called "white".

Yes, it's a south Russia region, there's Caucus mountains there, etc.

The 'white' people are obviously descended from there

I have no idea 'whites' are called 'Caucasians' - particularly in North America (never heard it used here, just 'whites'). Maybe it's just for Anthropological reasons stated before - but that's as relevant as saying we're from the ark of the covenant or something - with the broad definition of Caucasian we could just about equate it to all Humans.

I met a Caucasian Russian once, quite dark skinned, obviously not white, he was a bit miffed that the whites had 'stolen' his nationality for themselves. He said something about the white race just can't stop stealing from other races, even if it's just a word to describe nationality.

Caucasian even has the word 'asian' in.

 

[Calanen]

Australia is no stranger to politically correct silliness. The aboriginal people of this continent want to be called 'Kooris' and not Aboriginals. If they call themselves Kooris fine by me. But in my language, I call them Aboriginals, which just means the original inhabitents. I could care less what they call me in any of their languages (hardly any of which are spoken anymore). You'd be hard pressed today to find Aboriginals in the cities that speak a native tribal language. The ones in the desert still do, but mostly only the older people.

The whole obsession with language and the way things are said or not said, is very 1984 or Fahreinheit-esque. Interesting it was predicted so long ago. Interestingly there is a feminist writer called Heidi Hartmann. If she really believed in the cause she would change her name to Heidi Hartperson. Just perpetuates male dominance don't you know.

 

[Pesmerga]

Would a white guy rather be reffered to as white or caucasian?

PC pisses me off too. Too many people with too much god damn time on their hands and it's becoming too damn hard to defend yourself because people will pin you with the moral "good" shit, stuff so stretched out of context and proportion it's unbelievable people stand for it. Reminds me how people can twist the words of the Koran and say "Oh, yeah, btw guys, muhammed wants us to kill americans".

 

[Calanen]

Forget racism, thats an illegal dismissal (in most countries anyway)

Not in China or Hong Kong strangely. Nor Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Phillipines, India, Bangladhesh, Vietnam. Some of these places have discrimination on the basis of sex as a law. Or trade unionism.

Very few have race as a prohibited grounds of discrimination. I've never done Middle East and South America, but I am assuming its low on their list of priorities as well.

The places that do, are Western Europe, USA, Canada, Australia.

Racial discrimination is legal in Hong Kong last I checked. Although there were moves afoot to change this. A consultation paper was put together towards the end of last year about it. Why? Apparently Europe was getting upset. ALthough strangely in Hong Kong, probably the main recipients of racial protection laws will be Philipino domestic helpers, and whites. Not the chinese.