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Life in prison. Being British I dont do the whole death penalty thing. And, if he wanted to be a mater (I know I spelt that wrong) this will deny him of any possibility of that.
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He's an asshole yes, but he's getting all this attention when he didn't do anything other than possibly aid others in planning, so life in prison I agree.
Ultimately it was a massive failure to protect by the administration at the time that led to all the attacks happening as they did. What about culpability of the people in charge on that day?.. where are those trials? why when they stated it was an intelligence failure are there no reprimands to this day?. far more important questions I think.
Afterall if it was a massive failure in intelligence and defence would you want those same airheads managing a future crisis?.
Ultimately it was a massive failure to protect by the administration at the time that led to all the attacks happening as they did. What about culpability of the people in charge on that day?.. where are those trials? why when they stated it was an intelligence failure are there no reprimands to this day?. far more important questions I think.
Afterall if it was a massive failure in intelligence and defence would you want those same airheads managing a future crisis?.
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A life sentence in a super-max prison is arguably worse than death. Virtually NO human contact for 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, the rest of your life. All alone for that long? Sounds awful to me. Will give him plenty of time to consider the bad choices he made....
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I would rather be put to death then be in the same cell for the rest of my life. Therefore I think he got the right punishment.
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I support him being in prison for life. I hear he's in the solitary for 23 hours of each day, for the rest of his life. He'd make a great psychology experiment.
How long would it take for his head to implode after going through so much insanity?
How long would it take for his head to implode after going through so much insanity?
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I would'nt venture that far. They can't treat him like that, lest they treat all prisoners like that.
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Moussaoui hoax (2)
Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.
He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.
Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?
Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.
The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.
Is it a chaotic show?
Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.
He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.
Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?
Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.
The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.
Is it a chaotic show?
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life sentence is definately worse than death.
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Life sentence. Absolutely life sentence. The last thing we want to do is make a martyr out of him.
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Moussaoui hoax (3)
The background why Moussaoui is put on court at this time. It's when Charlie Sheen had his opinion that 911 is likely an inside job and other experts in succession suggest that 911 was manipulated by this administration as another Pearl Harbor. Bush government is in a trough of untrustworthy. They need help. So they push out Moussaoui.
Moussaoui's "I am Al Qaida." became the big title of media. He admitted his mission was to fly the fifth plane to hit the White House. That's what government wants. How convenient they got the evidence to prove it's an Al Qaida's work not their's.
But question comes again. How could Moussaoui hijack a plane by himself? How could he control the passengers while flying a plane? Where is other team member? So now government must find some other puppets and create some stories to support this 5th plane's story.
What a circus. Still we saw government releasing the conversation between the WTC victim and 911 emergence dispatcher, or let out a new film of "flight 93". At this time, it was used as a tool of psychological influence. You can see how government control public's mind if you stand at a higher level and watch over these news.
The background why Moussaoui is put on court at this time. It's when Charlie Sheen had his opinion that 911 is likely an inside job and other experts in succession suggest that 911 was manipulated by this administration as another Pearl Harbor. Bush government is in a trough of untrustworthy. They need help. So they push out Moussaoui.
Moussaoui's "I am Al Qaida." became the big title of media. He admitted his mission was to fly the fifth plane to hit the White House. That's what government wants. How convenient they got the evidence to prove it's an Al Qaida's work not their's.
But question comes again. How could Moussaoui hijack a plane by himself? How could he control the passengers while flying a plane? Where is other team member? So now government must find some other puppets and create some stories to support this 5th plane's story.
What a circus. Still we saw government releasing the conversation between the WTC victim and 911 emergence dispatcher, or let out a new film of "flight 93". At this time, it was used as a tool of psychological influence. You can see how government control public's mind if you stand at a higher level and watch over these news.
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Moussaoui hoax (4)
FBI awards man who blocked MN investigation
Quote, " FBI performs a nasty little sequel to whistle-blower saga
Doug Grow Star Tribune Published Dec. 22, 2002
The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The award carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's salary and a framed certificate signed by the president.
What does this have to do with Rowley?
Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's the unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about Moussaoui.
There were no FBI honors for the Minneapolis office. There was a big honor for the lead antagonist of the Minneapolis office."
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3547688.html
When the low ranking FBI agent warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and might hijack a plane, he got no reward for his good work.
But the high ranking officer got a reward after that. What achievement has he got that could overcome the big mistake (or more accurately, a criminal neglegence) that he had blocked the important discovery his staff has made?
That's why I say Moussaoui was a prepared witness by inside group. Low ranking FBI agent did their job to report it. The high ranking officials knew what was it. It was too early to declair Moussaoui was a potential hijacker. They must block it otherwise there would be no 911, and the war the inside group wanted couldn't go true. Those who blocked the revelation got a reward.
FBI awards man who blocked MN investigation
Quote, " FBI performs a nasty little sequel to whistle-blower saga
Doug Grow Star Tribune Published Dec. 22, 2002
The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The award carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's salary and a framed certificate signed by the president.
What does this have to do with Rowley?
Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's the unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about Moussaoui.
There were no FBI honors for the Minneapolis office. There was a big honor for the lead antagonist of the Minneapolis office."
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3547688.html
When the low ranking FBI agent warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and might hijack a plane, he got no reward for his good work.
But the high ranking officer got a reward after that. What achievement has he got that could overcome the big mistake (or more accurately, a criminal neglegence) that he had blocked the important discovery his staff has made?
That's why I say Moussaoui was a prepared witness by inside group. Low ranking FBI agent did their job to report it. The high ranking officials knew what was it. It was too early to declair Moussaoui was a potential hijacker. They must block it otherwise there would be no 911, and the war the inside group wanted couldn't go true. Those who blocked the revelation got a reward.
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Is there no depths to which you will not sink to trash your fellow country men? you are a living breathing embodiment of everything that is wrong in this world.
I pity you and the sad little paranoid world in which you inhabit. I was going to offer up loads and loads of links that simply shred you posts, but why bother?
I am happy that your existence is so pathetic you would side with a convicted criminal, who by his silence directly led to the deaths of thousand of you own countrymen.
You are without question a sad, pathetic, loathsome individual who I simply wouldn't bother wasting my time on, other than to voice my absolute and total revulsion of you.
Edit, I see you also decide to trash the new movie flight 93. A movie made with the full consent and blessing of the families involved. A movie that was made as a tribute to those who died to save others. Good on you,keep going.
I pity you and the sad little paranoid world in which you inhabit. I was going to offer up loads and loads of links that simply shred you posts, but why bother?
I am happy that your existence is so pathetic you would side with a convicted criminal, who by his silence directly led to the deaths of thousand of you own countrymen.
You are without question a sad, pathetic, loathsome individual who I simply wouldn't bother wasting my time on, other than to voice my absolute and total revulsion of you.
Edit, I see you also decide to trash the new movie flight 93. A movie made with the full consent and blessing of the families involved. A movie that was made as a tribute to those who died to save others. Good on you,keep going.
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"side with convicted criminal?" Better to discuss and explain why FBI awarded the man who blocked the investigation on Moussaoui before 911 instead of labelling.
Maybe you would be rewarded by FBI like Bowerman had been because you work so hard to cover up the dark side of this government.
As for your favorite "Flight 93":
Government released a cockpit tape. It could be a fake from the "disinformation strategy office" of intelligence. As cheap as Bin Laden's tape and Nick Berg's beheading tape. To produce one like that is as easy as to produce a film "Flight 93".
Appeals to Fabricated Evidence
The most stunning example of government mendacity in the Moussaoui trial, Fetzer explains, came with the inflammatory recordings, allegedly the last moments of Flight 93, which went down in Pennsylvania. "Not only should they not have been admitted into evidence," he said, "but Allen Green has noted that much of the conversation is from the passenger cabin -- which would not have been picked up in by the cockpit voice recorder, even through an open door. Yet the cockpit door was supposed to be closed before it was finally broken open using a drink cart."
Another blunder was noted by a Muslim member of S9/11T. The last words of the "hijackers" on the tape are "Allah is great! (Allahu akbar!"). Muhammad Columbo says, "The last words of a Muslim cannot be these! They are used in the call to prayer, or in an attack at war. On the moment of death, a Muslim must confirm that "There is but one God, Allah, and that Mohammed is his prophet!" The government's own evidence proves either the tapes or the Muslims are fake.
Fetzer has also been struck by the use of phrases that appear to come from Hollywood scripts. "It's not enough that he talks about "making his day" as though he were a fan of Dirty Harry, but he also parodies "Born in the USA" with his rendition of "Burn in the USA" and has described his trial as a 'cyberlynching'. We are so used to movies that we may not notice this is supposed to be real life, where this trial appears to be following a script.
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Prof. James Fetzer
218-726-7269
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100677;title=APFN
Maybe you would be rewarded by FBI like Bowerman had been because you work so hard to cover up the dark side of this government.
As for your favorite "Flight 93":
Government released a cockpit tape. It could be a fake from the "disinformation strategy office" of intelligence. As cheap as Bin Laden's tape and Nick Berg's beheading tape. To produce one like that is as easy as to produce a film "Flight 93".
Appeals to Fabricated Evidence
The most stunning example of government mendacity in the Moussaoui trial, Fetzer explains, came with the inflammatory recordings, allegedly the last moments of Flight 93, which went down in Pennsylvania. "Not only should they not have been admitted into evidence," he said, "but Allen Green has noted that much of the conversation is from the passenger cabin -- which would not have been picked up in by the cockpit voice recorder, even through an open door. Yet the cockpit door was supposed to be closed before it was finally broken open using a drink cart."
Another blunder was noted by a Muslim member of S9/11T. The last words of the "hijackers" on the tape are "Allah is great! (Allahu akbar!"). Muhammad Columbo says, "The last words of a Muslim cannot be these! They are used in the call to prayer, or in an attack at war. On the moment of death, a Muslim must confirm that "There is but one God, Allah, and that Mohammed is his prophet!" The government's own evidence proves either the tapes or the Muslims are fake.
Fetzer has also been struck by the use of phrases that appear to come from Hollywood scripts. "It's not enough that he talks about "making his day" as though he were a fan of Dirty Harry, but he also parodies "Born in the USA" with his rendition of "Burn in the USA" and has described his trial as a 'cyberlynching'. We are so used to movies that we may not notice this is supposed to be real life, where this trial appears to be following a script.
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Prof. James Fetzer
218-726-7269
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100677;title=APFN
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kathaksung ,
Your post is as predicable has day following night. Just simply pump out more drivel. Drivel that nobody is listening to or even in the slightest bit concerned about. Other than the rest of life’s rejects and social misfits.
Your self righteous contempt of everything that is normal and sane commands my equal contempt of you and you will receive no less. Words such as charity, humanity, compassion, understanding, affection, friendship and even love are words that appear to be totally alien to you and something you are clearly devoid of. They are simply replaced with words like despair, inhumanity, dispassion, cruel, dysfunctional, hate, and loathing.
Your total lack of understanding of the real word and how real human beings interact with one another begs the question as to whether you are actually a real human being at all and not just simply random data that is being generated from within the Matrix type world from where you come from.
You, like the rest of your conspirators have failed time and time again to offer up anything even worthy of consideration and you have failed totally to address all the scientific proven facts. You rely on speculation, rumours, second hand news and your own ability to simply copy and paste drivel and garbage from your conspiracy sites. So what do you do? simply offer up more in the misguided belief that somebody, somewhere may actually take you seriously. Proving that there is a massive conspiracy will never be achieved from the darkened basement where you clearly operate from.
I see you admire and respect an ex alcoholic, ex drugie, wife beating, prostitute using, failed husband. That being your buddy Charlie, what a role model and ideal spokesman for your group, for like yourself he is an idiot. But wait, that’s not fair after all, people can change, em apparently not, now he is an ex Hollywood movie star. I can really see people like Spielberg, Tarentino and Lucas falling over them to work with him. Along with DeNero and Nickelson. Once an idiot always an idiot.
It’s just not fair is it? Why is it I can be so awful and abusive to you? I can because I have the right to do so. See, these are the rules of the game. I am not the one trying to make earth altering claims, you are. I am not the one trying to alter your opinions; I really couldn’t care less what you think. You are the one that is trying to alter everybody else’s opinion. To do so, you are the one that must remain civil, pleasant and above all must not resort to insults otherwise your entire argument is invalid. Whereby I am the one that is resisting your claims and resisting change. I can do it in what ever manner I see fit, including mocking and insulting you.
You know you want to, you know I am annoying you; all you have to do is let it all out. Go on, slam the Cap Locks on and hurl a load of insults, get it all off your chest. Let the mask of the ever so socially aware and above intelligent scholar slip and let’s see you for what you are. That being a lonely, social misfit. You’ll feel so much better.
And here’s the kicker the more you spout off there is a conspiracy, the more you prove there isn’t. Don’t believe me?
“I never saw flight 77 on the video, something is wrong”.
Really?
surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“I have not seen any bodies at the Pentagon, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“The holes at the Pentagon match those of a missile, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“The towers collapsed too fast, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“WTC 7 looked like a controlled demo, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
I could go on and on listing the entire things that you belief you have found that are so wrong but you can see my point. There more you find things that are wrong the more you prove there was no conspiracy. The more you believe you are bringing down the “official version”, the more you are punching holes in your own lame claims.
Isn’t it just a bitch? But then again something as fundamental as common sense and logic would also be alien in your world.
Just for you pal, just for you.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7501020220921158523&q=penn+teller
Yes it could be fake, maybe you should tell Nick Bergs family. You are a total fcuk wit.
Disinformation strategy office is you pal; this is the summary of your sad paranoid life.
Go on, get the cap locks on and start hurling the insults, you know you want to.
Your post is as predicable has day following night. Just simply pump out more drivel. Drivel that nobody is listening to or even in the slightest bit concerned about. Other than the rest of life’s rejects and social misfits.
Your self righteous contempt of everything that is normal and sane commands my equal contempt of you and you will receive no less. Words such as charity, humanity, compassion, understanding, affection, friendship and even love are words that appear to be totally alien to you and something you are clearly devoid of. They are simply replaced with words like despair, inhumanity, dispassion, cruel, dysfunctional, hate, and loathing.
Your total lack of understanding of the real word and how real human beings interact with one another begs the question as to whether you are actually a real human being at all and not just simply random data that is being generated from within the Matrix type world from where you come from.
You, like the rest of your conspirators have failed time and time again to offer up anything even worthy of consideration and you have failed totally to address all the scientific proven facts. You rely on speculation, rumours, second hand news and your own ability to simply copy and paste drivel and garbage from your conspiracy sites. So what do you do? simply offer up more in the misguided belief that somebody, somewhere may actually take you seriously. Proving that there is a massive conspiracy will never be achieved from the darkened basement where you clearly operate from.
I see you admire and respect an ex alcoholic, ex drugie, wife beating, prostitute using, failed husband. That being your buddy Charlie, what a role model and ideal spokesman for your group, for like yourself he is an idiot. But wait, that’s not fair after all, people can change, em apparently not, now he is an ex Hollywood movie star. I can really see people like Spielberg, Tarentino and Lucas falling over them to work with him. Along with DeNero and Nickelson. Once an idiot always an idiot.
It’s just not fair is it? Why is it I can be so awful and abusive to you? I can because I have the right to do so. See, these are the rules of the game. I am not the one trying to make earth altering claims, you are. I am not the one trying to alter your opinions; I really couldn’t care less what you think. You are the one that is trying to alter everybody else’s opinion. To do so, you are the one that must remain civil, pleasant and above all must not resort to insults otherwise your entire argument is invalid. Whereby I am the one that is resisting your claims and resisting change. I can do it in what ever manner I see fit, including mocking and insulting you.
You know you want to, you know I am annoying you; all you have to do is let it all out. Go on, slam the Cap Locks on and hurl a load of insults, get it all off your chest. Let the mask of the ever so socially aware and above intelligent scholar slip and let’s see you for what you are. That being a lonely, social misfit. You’ll feel so much better.
And here’s the kicker the more you spout off there is a conspiracy, the more you prove there isn’t. Don’t believe me?
“I never saw flight 77 on the video, something is wrong”.
Really?
surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“I have not seen any bodies at the Pentagon, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“The holes at the Pentagon match those of a missile, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“The towers collapsed too fast, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
“WTC 7 looked like a controlled demo, there must be something wrong”
Really?
Surely a master conspirator would make sure this didn’t happen.
I could go on and on listing the entire things that you belief you have found that are so wrong but you can see my point. There more you find things that are wrong the more you prove there was no conspiracy. The more you believe you are bringing down the “official version”, the more you are punching holes in your own lame claims.
Isn’t it just a bitch? But then again something as fundamental as common sense and logic would also be alien in your world.
Just for you pal, just for you.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7501020220921158523&q=penn+teller
Yes it could be fake, maybe you should tell Nick Bergs family. You are a total fcuk wit.
Disinformation strategy office is you pal; this is the summary of your sad paranoid life.
Go on, get the cap locks on and start hurling the insults, you know you want to.
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Ugh, baxter, I don't see why you did that. You've only fueled his robotic-like annoyance.
It seems like he just goes from forum to forum copy and pasting this shit. I don't even bother reading it. All he must want is for people to react to it, so I say, let him say stupid shit that makes no sense... and don't dignify it with a response.
It seems like he just goes from forum to forum copy and pasting this shit. I don't even bother reading it. All he must want is for people to react to it, so I say, let him say stupid shit that makes no sense... and don't dignify it with a response.
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baxter said:
What a bunch of shout abusing. I think you are only good at that.
baxter said:
Sorry, none of these was from me. You avoid to refer mine. So I am not able to discuss with you. I am surprised at your ability to pile up rant on irrelevant subject.
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The flaw of 911 hijacker as incompetant pilot. None has experience to fly a Boeing. How could they found the route and accurately hit the target?
Hani Hanjour, a hijacker in 911 described by FBI as the pilot, was not able to control a single engine Cessna. Moussaoui was much worse, how could he be accused in a case for piloting a Boeing?
Quote, "Hani Hanjour:
9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...
At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.
However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all."
By JIM YARDLEY (NYT) 592 words
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 10 , Column 2
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A11FD35550C778CDDAC0894DA404482
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Just when you thought it was over..
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The actual events were created hoax. Cheney knew it before news reported it. All this was pre-planned.
Quote, "Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
Sat Apr 15, 2006 00:06
64.140.158.37
Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
by Russell Pickering
[email protected]
Why has Flight 93 suddenly taken center stage? Plain and simple it is the last resort of the perpetrators to hide. As 9/11 Truth groups successfully move forward with the goal of awakening Americans to the facts of the four events that occurred that day, only one is in a remote, obscure field. Only one was unavailable for real inspection (even in photos) until the trial. Only one is embedded in a legend of heroism.
Is there any evidence that the story of heroism was a pre-planned cover story? Yes there is. In an interview with CNN's John King in the vice president's office on September 11, 2002 Cheney was reported to have made a very interesting statement.
"Word came that Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. Aides frantically called the White House to find out whether a military jet had shot it down.
"'The vice president was a little bit ahead of us,' said Eric Edelman, Cheney's national security advisor. 'He said sort of softly and to nobody in particular, 'I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane.'" (1)
In the context of having just given shoot down orders they received word that Flight 93 had crashed. They had no idea why as evidenced by the fact they were trying to determine if a military jet had shot it down. But Cheney in an underground bunker with confusion raging everywhere and no knowledge beyond what his aides were telling him says, "I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane."? Wait a second…..what could he have possibly based that statement on?
Even his aide noticed Cheney was, "a little bit ahead of us". I would go so far as to say he was a lot ahead of everybody. There was absolutely no possible way that Cheney was aware of the alleged cell phone calls and most certainly he had not heard the cockpit voice recorder. Where did he get his idea from?
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100501;title=APFN
Quote, "Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
Sat Apr 15, 2006 00:06
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Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
by Russell Pickering
[email protected]
Why has Flight 93 suddenly taken center stage? Plain and simple it is the last resort of the perpetrators to hide. As 9/11 Truth groups successfully move forward with the goal of awakening Americans to the facts of the four events that occurred that day, only one is in a remote, obscure field. Only one was unavailable for real inspection (even in photos) until the trial. Only one is embedded in a legend of heroism.
Is there any evidence that the story of heroism was a pre-planned cover story? Yes there is. In an interview with CNN's John King in the vice president's office on September 11, 2002 Cheney was reported to have made a very interesting statement.
"Word came that Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. Aides frantically called the White House to find out whether a military jet had shot it down.
"'The vice president was a little bit ahead of us,' said Eric Edelman, Cheney's national security advisor. 'He said sort of softly and to nobody in particular, 'I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane.'" (1)
In the context of having just given shoot down orders they received word that Flight 93 had crashed. They had no idea why as evidenced by the fact they were trying to determine if a military jet had shot it down. But Cheney in an underground bunker with confusion raging everywhere and no knowledge beyond what his aides were telling him says, "I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane."? Wait a second…..what could he have possibly based that statement on?
Even his aide noticed Cheney was, "a little bit ahead of us". I would go so far as to say he was a lot ahead of everybody. There was absolutely no possible way that Cheney was aware of the alleged cell phone calls and most certainly he had not heard the cockpit voice recorder. Where did he get his idea from?
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Sometimes you have to take a deep breathe, step back and look at the bigger picture. It is up to us all to figure out where we fit into this picture and as such maybe you should have a look at the bigger picture.
THE BIG PICTURE
As you see you stand shoulder to shoulder with many of the classic kooks and crackpots.
Me personally,I prefer to go with these guys.
I think their headwear is Grovey.
As oppose to yours
THE BIG PICTURE
As you see you stand shoulder to shoulder with many of the classic kooks and crackpots.
Me personally,I prefer to go with these guys.
I think their headwear is Grovey.
As oppose to yours
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Pentagon was told by experts the plane was not piloted by flight school students.
Quote, "Stephen M. St. John
Precursors to Remote-Controlled Flights of 9/11?
Tue May 2, 2006 18:17
162.84.146.231
Despite what Universal Studios will have you believe, the alleged phone calls from the flights of 9/11 were all fake too. They were all the "product" of voice morphing technology. Cockpit voice recorders do not pick up sound in the passenger cabin, unless of course you are watching a Zionist propaganda movie. But voice morphing technology can turn a cockpit in real life into a sound stage very much akin to what the people in Hollywood use. With the right access, budget, time and "work-up," your bowl of jelly beans can sound like a familiar voice from the past.
A Canadian professor of mathematics, Kee Dewdney, after conducting experiments that proved the utter impossibility of cell phone calls from airborne jets, gave a practical criticism of the transcripts of the alleged 9/11 cell and air phone conversations which is reminiscent of the great literary critic I. A. Richards. Dewdney found that the conspirators betray themselves with their own words and behaviors and left the overall impression that they would be poor candidates indeed for an opening for scriptwriter at the Aaron Spelling studios in Hollywood.
Families, friends, and colleagues of the 21 killed aboard the EC-135N on 6 May 1981 are holding a private reunion on the 25th anniversary of the crash later this week. A memorial was established at the National Museum of the Air Force in Fairborn, Ohio, and another one is planned for the crash site with the kind cooperation and support of the good folks of Walkersville, Maryland, among others.
The Scholars for 9/11 Truth (www.ST911.org) and the Scientific Panel Investigating 9/11 (www.physics911.net), among others, have proved beyond any reasonable doubt that the 9/11 Commission Report is part of a cover-up of what really happened on 9/11. Indeed, all the lies that we have been told about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq – and they were very big lies – are but little ones when compared with the BIG LIE about 9/11.
The 9/11 Commissioners ignored indications of remote control piloting of the jets of 9/11 brought forward by retired Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (among others), who had convened within days of 9/11 a meeting of military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students and that the best explanation for these flights was that they were flown by remote control during the peak activities of multiple NORAD drills.
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100918;title=APFN;pagemark=40
Quote, "Stephen M. St. John
Precursors to Remote-Controlled Flights of 9/11?
Tue May 2, 2006 18:17
162.84.146.231
Despite what Universal Studios will have you believe, the alleged phone calls from the flights of 9/11 were all fake too. They were all the "product" of voice morphing technology. Cockpit voice recorders do not pick up sound in the passenger cabin, unless of course you are watching a Zionist propaganda movie. But voice morphing technology can turn a cockpit in real life into a sound stage very much akin to what the people in Hollywood use. With the right access, budget, time and "work-up," your bowl of jelly beans can sound like a familiar voice from the past.
A Canadian professor of mathematics, Kee Dewdney, after conducting experiments that proved the utter impossibility of cell phone calls from airborne jets, gave a practical criticism of the transcripts of the alleged 9/11 cell and air phone conversations which is reminiscent of the great literary critic I. A. Richards. Dewdney found that the conspirators betray themselves with their own words and behaviors and left the overall impression that they would be poor candidates indeed for an opening for scriptwriter at the Aaron Spelling studios in Hollywood.
Families, friends, and colleagues of the 21 killed aboard the EC-135N on 6 May 1981 are holding a private reunion on the 25th anniversary of the crash later this week. A memorial was established at the National Museum of the Air Force in Fairborn, Ohio, and another one is planned for the crash site with the kind cooperation and support of the good folks of Walkersville, Maryland, among others.
The Scholars for 9/11 Truth (www.ST911.org) and the Scientific Panel Investigating 9/11 (www.physics911.net), among others, have proved beyond any reasonable doubt that the 9/11 Commission Report is part of a cover-up of what really happened on 9/11. Indeed, all the lies that we have been told about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq – and they were very big lies – are but little ones when compared with the BIG LIE about 9/11.
The 9/11 Commissioners ignored indications of remote control piloting of the jets of 9/11 brought forward by retired Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (among others), who had convened within days of 9/11 a meeting of military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students and that the best explanation for these flights was that they were flown by remote control during the peak activities of multiple NORAD drills.
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100918;title=APFN;pagemark=40
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