Population control

[Core407]

Is anyone for it? I think some sort of measure should be put in place that would limit the growth of the population. How about giving all newborns a vasectomy and once they want kids, just have it reversed.

 

[586FAC75]

Um...Can you medically do that? I mean, it's not all working down below yet at that age is it?

The UK doesn't need any kind of population control as it has a healthy stream of immigrants to work and contribute to the tax system to combat the lack of births and the growth of more people retiring early...

Well, that's only if they work and not decide sponge of the state.

 

[Core407]

I thought you were capable of performing one at any age.

 

[VictimOfScience]

The world should've done this a long time ago imho. Its borderline too late for the planet at this point and if people of developing/developed nations keep leaving such a vast ecological footprint, then we don't have too too long to go before the human race goes the way of the dodo.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

inhabit mars, till then, gather random ppl (the not me ones) on an island and h-bomb'm. But in all honesty, I have no clue except the new planet part which takes too damned long. And you know how people are too damned anxious to wait for this kinda stuff D:
I guess the first idea presented could work, prevent damned teens for fuxx0ring over their heads and adding more to the world so fast.

 

[Dynasty]

Canabalisim.
Seriously. I eat someone you dont like, you eat someone i dont like, wheres the ****ing damage? Problem halved over night...
Then we can eat the unemployed, ANOTHER problem solved. Then we eat all the people in jails, ANOTHER problem solved. THEN we eat the homeless. Then once we've eaten the homeless we think 'oh **** they couldve lived in the jails...'
-Billy Connoly

So true though mhehe.

You just need laws and incentives like in China and India.
China : not allowed more than 1 child. Fair enough its against human rights, but the population IS becoming more stable.

India : radio given to men willing to be 'snipped'.

Oh and better sex ed. videos. Anyone that has seen The Girl Next Door will know what im on about haha.

Easier access to sex info and condoms etc, not here, in poorer countries.

 

[Razor]

People should have a license if they want to have children and you can only get a license if you can prove you're a good parent i.e. no slags with 16 kids by the age of 30.

 

[ríomhaire]

I thought you were capable of performing one at any age.

I'm pretty sure you have to hit puperty(sp?) but it is known for people (girls only?) to hit it very early for no real reason.

 

[kirovman]

Of course girls can't have vasectomies as far as I know.

 

[CptStern]

Is anyone for it? I think some sort of measure should be put in place that would limit the growth of the population. How about giving all newborns a vasectomy and once they want kids, just have it reversed.

lol! that's not how it works ..you'd sterilize them for life


who are you to deny anyone of life? while it may be necessary at some point we have no right in deciding what someone does with their lives ..it's just so open to abuse that it's just not feasible

 

[kirovman]

The only way to go about population control without being Hitler or enforcing one child policies is education and development of society. In developed countries the birthrate is much lower than of third world countries, but not because we're being held at gunpoint to not have more kids.

But, one thing that population control does lead to is an abundance of old people who need pensions from the state, as they outnumber the workforce. Which can be crippling too.

So we need a big enough workforce to sustain the elderly, BUT a sustainable population level.

 

[Raeven0]

I would rather people just be intelligent enough to realise that popping out nineteen babies is stupid.

So, to that end: why not just kill all the stupid people? Every problem in the world, instantly solved.

 

[joule]

I don't think we have to worry about population just yet. Maybe in the next century or so. I say they exterminate the unnecessary people. The ones who don't provide or produce.

 

[15357]

War and conscription is an extrememly effective way of population control, already proven by the Soviet Union in WW2. And it doesn't entail the obvious moral/ethical um... hinderances than compulsory vesectomies.

 

[delusional]

overpopulation isnt a problem. earth should just become a ecumemopolis aka world wide city, that would be fun

 

[Stigmata]

overpopulation isnt a problem. earth should just become a ecumemopolis aka world wide city, that would be fun

Plus we'd satisfy all the Star Wars basement nerds' desires to live on Coruscant

Two birds with one ecumemopolis.

[edit] Two birds and 94% of bird species due to pollution.

 

[pvtbones]

[edit] Two birds and 94% of bird species due to pollution.

and the other 6% by midflight collisions.

 

[15357]

I'm gonna agree with delusional, population control in itself is bad, because you're losing all those valuable resources and human assets.



Not to mention human emphathy.

However, there are bad things about a worldwide city, most likely the lack of oxygen.

 

[delusional]

actually most of your oxygen comes from algae in the ocean.

 

[15357]

Yes, and that ocean will be gone by the city.

 

[Stigmata]

Actually, the ocean will be directly underneath the floating parts of the city. Open water.

But we'll have death rays to protect us from DEATH RAYS

 

[15357]

...............


Aren't miniguns capable enough?

 

[delusional]

nanotechnology can solve the worlds resource problems too.

 

[Man|-|unter]

Canabalisim.
You just need laws and incentives like in China and India.
China : not allowed more than 1 child. Fair enough its against human rights, but the population IS becoming more stable.

India : radio given to men willing to be 'snipped'.

Oh and better sex ed. videos. Anyone that has seen The Girl Next Door will know what im on about haha.

Easier access to sex info and condoms etc, not here, in poorer countries.

In the early 1950s in India, women gave birth to an average of six children.

The country faced a demographic time bomb and India was the first country to attempt to control population growth.


"There are lots of people who haven't heard of the condom"
Population expert Usha Rai

Half a century later, the birth rate has been halved, but the massive population is still the number one problem facing India.

With the population still increasing by a figure equal to the entire population of Australia every year, it is accepted India's attempts to stabilise it have already failed.

In the small town of Dadri in Uttar Pradesh, down an alleyway off the main street and behind some shops, is the home of Mohammed Omar and his wife, Aasiyah Begum.

This couple has not taken the population control message to heart. They have 24 children.

Aasiyah Begum has given birth to 29 children she thinks, but five have died.

The first child was born shortly after Indian independence in 1947 and they have continued ever since.

She says birth control is against her religion - Islam - "It's a sin to have an operation. No prayers would be said at my grave when I die. Only people with serious health problems can have operations."

Population expert Usha Rai says India still lacks a coherent approach to holding back the population explosion and knowledge about basic birth control techniques is woeful.

She says: "There are lots of people who haven't heard of the condom.


All of my children work, and between us we have enough to feed the family. We've got no debts.
Mohammed Omar, father of 24

"I know of a person in Meghalaya who said he'd never heard of condoms, he didn't know how they were used, he didn't know where to get them from. This is a major problem in India."

In Dadri, Mohammed Omar works as a handyman at the local police station, where he is something of a celebrity because he has fathered so many children.

But the local police chief, deputy superintendent Pramud Gupta, says he sees too many large families.

"The main factor is illiteracy, I think. They don't realise what are the consequences behind this. The large number of children, they impose the financial burden on them,"

But Mohammed Omar says having more than 20 children has never been a burden to him.

"We've not had any problems. All of my children work, and between us we have enough to feed the family. We've got no debts. We're one big happy family," he says.

But he rejects any suggestion he may give up fatherhood: "Do you think I'm too old or something?" he says.

Usha Rai

Financial Hub of India: Mumbai

Railway Station

 

[delusional]

over population is a problem in places like india but in devoloped countries we dont need population control

 

[Aenama]

simply stop giving Africa free shit.

 

[Man|-|unter]

over population is a problem in places like india but in devoloped countries we dont need population control

eH.....? India was developed long time ago when others countries can't fullfil their need, basic amenities We were living a lavish life on golden bed, we were called us Golden Bird untill East India Company come those mo**** Britishers betray us and rest is history.........

 

[Aenama]

Nvm

 

[Terminator]

Is anyone for it? I think some sort of measure should be put in place that would limit the growth of the population. How about giving all newborns a vasectomy and once they want kids, just have it reversed.

Destroy the weak and useless people, they can't fight back so it's fair.

It would benefit the stronger/usefull people, humans would do much better.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

You're stupid, so you'd be on that list.

 

[CptStern]

Destroy the weak and useless people, they can't fight back so it's fair.

It would benefit the stronger/usefull people, humans would do much better.

I'd rather stephen hawking than ah-nold any day ..in fact if you kill the strongest you'll get rid of the meatheads, the steroid freaks/body builders, jocks etc ...the military would disappear over night

 

[kirovman]

I think someone called Hitler advocated the "euthanisia" of the weak. Look what happened to him.

Thing is, you can't say the human race would be better off if you eradicated the weak.

Technological breakthroughs, military technology does not require brawn.
Stephen Hawking could probably cap the hulk in the ass with his anti-tank missle.

 

[Terminator]

Strongest dosn't mean just physically strong.

Intelligent, physically strong, good immune system, good mind.

People like stephen hawking are useful and great people, what he lacks physically he more than makes up for with his intelligence and work in science.
People who are physically and mentally useless are simply a waste of space.

There are certain people in soceity that are simply a waste of space, families that spawn uneducated lazy kids that cause only problems.

Sorry to be a "bit" fascist but at least i'm honest and don't pretend to be a nice person just to improve my image.

You're stupid, so you'd be on that list.

Well, i might not be the most intelligent person in the world but i am certainly more intelligent than the vast majority of the population.
But, if i considered myself useless i would kill myself, i always seek to improve myself.

 

[15357]

I partly agree with you, but I think nearly everyone is useful, IE human resources.

Not strong? Intelligent? Then go straight to R&D or Strat.

Not intelligent? Go straight to manual labor.

Neither? Go straight to zipping work.

like that.

 

[CptStern]

Strongest dosn't mean just physically strong.

Intelligent, physically strong, good immune system, good mind.

People like stephen hawking are useful and great people, what he lacks physically he more than makes up for with his intelligence and work in science.
People who are physically and mentally useless are simply a waste of space.

There are certain people in soceity that are simply a waste of space, families that spawn uneducated lazy kids that cause only problems.

Sorry to be a "bit" fascist but at least i'm honest and don't pretend to be a nice person just to improve my image.


Well, i might not be the most intelligent person in the world but i am certainly more intelligent than the vast majority of the population.
But, if i considered myself useless i would kill myself, i always seek to improve myself.

well the most "fit" would probably be dictated by whatever disaster brought about the extinction of man ..but if it was purposeful you'd be better off killing the physically strong (those that have little more than just strength) in order to ensure order

personally I think we should drop idiot bombs ..bombs that do no physical damage but kill any adult under a certain IQ ...precisely calibrated to take out the religiously minded/deluded as well who might escape due to just barely scraping by on the IQ requirements :E

 

[15357]

bombs that do no physical damage but kill any adult under a certain IQ

??????

 

[CptStern]

damage to the infrastructure ..maybe it emits a frequency that only stupid people can hear causing their heads to s'plode!

 

[0mar]

Population control is moot. At this point, Mother Nature will do it's job.

To bring the human population down to sustainable levels, widely quoted at 2 billion people, we would need teh equivalent of all the casualties in WWII every year for 50 years. The human race simply doesn't have that willpower. Mother Nature will trim our population as necessary.

 

[Razor]

Another way that breeding should be controlled is how well off you are, how healthy and fit you are and how intelligent you are. So only the top people are allowed to breed...after a single generation, society would be 100times better as there will be no stupid kids and no chavs.

 

[kirovman]

Yes, yes, Eugenics ftw. :| ;(