Population control

[JNightshade]

Another way that breeding should be controlled is how well off you are, how healthy and fit you are and how intelligent you are. So only the top people are allowed to breed...after a single generation, society would be 100times better as there will be no stupid kids and no chavs.

You're completely and utterly... wrong. You're confusing situation with genetics.


If you really want to control the population, just enforce a one child-per-family rule. It won't work well (in China, for example, this law leads to a huge amount of young girls being abandoned) but it's sure as hell better than eugenics in disguise :|

 

[xcellerate]

I just want people out of my f'ing town. Everybody tries to get away from the big cities like atlanta, and they see birmingham is nice a quiet and go 'oh let's move to birmingham' of course, everybody does that.

I've had the woods behind my house, the church next to my house, and the area above my house all demolished and now our house is surrounded by like 25 houses. And that's just in the area I can see from my porch.

Another way that breeding should be controlled is how well off you are, how healthy and fit you are and how intelligent you are. So only the top people are allowed to breed...after a single generation, society would be 100times better as there will be no stupid kids and no chavs.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but genes offer a range, not specifics. If two basketball players have a baby, it could still be a short person. And if einstein and his female equal had a child it could have down syndrome...

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Most people in this thread don't realise that the overall population growth in the developed countries that actually have the means to apply these eugenics practices have growth rates of less than 1%, and most of that's due to immigration.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Puzzlemaker]

Most people in this thread don't realise that the overall population growth in the developed countries that actually have the means to apply these eugenics practices have growth rates of less than 1%, and most of that's due to immigration.

-Angry Lawyer

Yep. Once third world countries start to develop more, then the birth rate goes down. It will eventually reach a stable level as the worlds technology level increases.

 

[Ome_Vince]

No worries, every X number of years a desease comes along and whipes out large portions of society.
Last one was: the Spanish Flew (did you have anything to do with that Stern )

Apparantly high % of population in some way balances itself out. lol

 

[Man|-|unter]

No worries, every X number of years a desease comes along and whipes out large portions of society.

and we need every 5 year, to control population, doesn't matter it affects developed countries or developing countries it's all abt decreasing figures.

 

[Que-Ever]

IQ test. You fail, flittt, you're gone.

 

[delusional]

IQ tests dont exactly determine how smart you are. some people are just bad test takers or they could excel in the arts not math or whatever is on the test

 

[hari66]

Big corporates from developed countries currently exploit the low income conditions in developing countries thanks largely to their large population........more qualified people wandering around jobless means lower average wages..... supply far outstripping demand!

 

[0mar]

Another way that breeding should be controlled is how well off you are, how healthy and fit you are and how intelligent you are. So only the top people are allowed to breed...after a single generation, society would be 100times better as there will be no stupid kids and no chavs.

wow, you have no idea how genetics works do you?

 

[Ome_Vince]

IQ tests dont exactly determine how smart you are. some people are just bad test takers or they could excel in the arts not math or whatever is on the test

IQ != wisdom

 

[Flyingdebris]

well we could always try a suppression field, it worked in half life 2 didn't it?


More realisticly, to make sure that population stabilizes, its all a matter of making sure that the average for each family is 2 kids. Set things up so that families with more than 2 kids (odd cases of triplets, quintuplets, etc are exempt due to rarity and you can't really plan for that) are hit a little harder in the wallet. Don't put an outright cap, its not crucial that every family has 2 or less kids, just as long as you influence the overall average.

Also get somebody slap some sense into those crazies over in utah pumping out like 50 kids among 10 wives or whatever.

And yes my propossed extra kid penalty would affect welfare moms too, stop pumping out kids like a baby factory dammit.

Also offer significant tax exemptments for people that are sterile, volunteer to get vascetomies/tube tying surgeries, or for couples that have no intention of having kids.

That way you don't necessarily force anyone to do anything, you just encourage them.

 

[15357]

I think we should encourage people to have more babies. If things get out of hand, we can always have our uh... bilateral inter-nation 'talks'.

 

[Man|-|unter]

eH.....for what?

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

i really liked the liscence Idea, If you and your partner are unable to devote your whole life into properly raising children, then you are not allowed to have children. that would not only help stabilise populations, but help with crime, education and a whole myriad of other things.

 

[15357]

eH.....for what?

Uh... A continuation of politics by um, other means....

 

[kirovman]

i really liked the liscence Idea, If you and your partner are unable to devote your whole life into properly raising children, then you are not allowed to have children. that would not only help stabilise populations, but help with crime, education and a whole myriad of other things.

Oh yes, what a good idea.

If you have a job, then you shouldn't be allowed a kid, you should only be allowed children if you're unemployed.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

err, part of being employed and providing for your children is devoting your whole life to raising children. I don't know why your parents work, by the main incentive that my parents, and other parents I know that work is in the hope of raising their children succesfully.

 

[Flyingdebris]

you shouldn't require a liscense to breed anymore than you should require a liscense to eat or crap. Its a basic human function.

Since requiring a liscense means that someone must give you a liscense or that you can be denied one, it'd mean that the government has effective control on who has kids. A government in control of who can breed is too damn powerful and intrusive into my business for my liking. Plus whether or not a person can provide for a child is not something that is set in stone. How can you tell if someone would make a good mother or father unless you personally know them? Someone could easily make a good parent but earn a crappy wage, while some rich executive type could easily make for a shitty parent.

No offense but the liscense idea sucks.

 

[Neutrino]

I find it a hard question to answer. Am I for the human race controlling its own population? Yes. But in the reality of world politics and governments that is something quite different then "population control." The former infers a self regulating ideal agreed upon by the members of the race, while the latter implies a rule or law enforced from above.

In other words I think it is every individuals moral responsibility to limit our own numbers to what this planet can handle in terms of social and economic stability, environmental impact, and food and water supply. But of course this is little more than a fantasy at this point in our development. So the question becomes, at what point do we have to be protected from ourselves and forced into controlling our numbers? Assuming of course that such a point does in fact exist. But this is a rather obvious assumption when taking into account that we have ever decreasing finite resources and an ever increasing population, added to the fact that humans have never had much apptitude for self control as a species. So barring some sort of miracle the entire debate boils down to not if we need population control, but when. Unless something radically changes it will happen someday, whether it be in the form of resource wars, mass plagues, self imposed breeding limits, or government control.

Thus I dont agree with government imposed limits, but I am resigned to their necessity at some point in our future (probably sooner than later). Eventually though, I imagine it will become a cultural thing. Having three or more children will probably be considered taboo at some point in our future. So it will probably work itself out in the end.....at the last minute like most things we do.

 

[Core407]

lol! that's not how it works ..you'd sterilize them for life


who are you to deny anyone of life? while it may be necessary at some point we have no right in deciding what someone does with their lives ..it's just so open to abuse that it's just not feasible

Because the world would be better inf 80% of the population didn't exist.

 

[Crazy Horse]

I would rather people just be intelligent enough to realise that popping out nineteen babies is stupid.

So, to that end: why not just kill all the stupid people? Every problem in the world, instantly solved.

Actually, I think smart people cause many problems too.

 

[Crazy Horse]

Also, back on topic, an effective solution for overpopulation is a giant network of forced labor camps. You can get a lot of production out of them for cheap, and you get an annual death rate of 5-10%.

 

[Core407]

Also, back on topic, an effective solution for overpopulation is a giant network of forced labor camps. You can get a lot of production out of them for cheap, and you get an annual death rate of 5-10%.

We can give 12 year olds guns and tell them their parents are getting divorced.

 

[CptStern]

Because the world would be better inf 80% of the population didn't exist.

who says you'd be the part of the 20% that deserves to live? at this early stage in your life you couldnt possibly have done much to make you worthwhile


/me presses button to lower hermetically sealed door of gas chamber


so sorry but it's for the good of mankind